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SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

It was like some weird organizational gambit that originally netted us more seats at the national convention, if I understand it correctly. Made more sense back in the day when Colorado membership wasn't in the hundreds.

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
It has to do with zip codes but yeah it's getting worked out.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
nearly handed out three probations instead of titles :sweatdrop:

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Ruzihm posted:

might be :thejoke: but libertarian socialism is another term for ancom, just put in more comfortable terms for normies.

My bad. I thought they were taking the right's age-old approach of utilizing leftist terminology and symbolism to refer to right wing concepts. Like the AnCaps.

I learned something today.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



logikv9 posted:

nearly handed out three probations instead of titles :sweatdrop:

When will the tyranny of mods STOP???

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Brute Squad posted:

My bad. I thought they were taking the right's age-old approach of utilizing leftist terminology and symbolism to refer to right wing concepts. Like the AnCaps.

I learned something today.

You're sort of thinking about it correctly, as I believe the consensus is right wing libertarianism stole the leftist term.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Business Gorillas posted:

When will the tyranny of mods STOP???

No Lowtax, no mods!

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Ace of Baes posted:

It's going to get worked out soon.

I keep thinking I'll run into you at Denver meets. Maybe some day!

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Agean90 posted:

Wyoming will be caught up in March, our first official meeting is on the 9th, and we should have at least 5 people

but if you're in that meeting who's watching the rest of the state?

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

MizPiz posted:

Get comfortable in those meetings then start pushing for change you want to see. Even longtime members of the DSA don't know what the gently caress to do with the influx of new members, so this is entirely new and intimidating experience for everyone involved.

Just don't see this as a sign that the DSA is doomed to fail, see it as an opportunity to stretch your legs politically.
Really cant see any reason for a DSA meeting to last more than an hour. There is now way someone who hears about DSA doesn't have any email - send the bulk poo poo electronically and focus the physical, face to face meetings on important, energizing stuff.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

HBar posted:

New chapter map from young harrington:


States that need to catch up: Arizona, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Louisiana, Alabama, Delaware, New Hampshire, ...Vermont?

New Hampshire should be filing for formal chapter recognition this month.

Although I was told a state wide chapter is discouraged, but there aren't five people in one place since NH is very suburban.

Oh Hell No
Oct 10, 2007

I've got the world on a string.


now with links and recognition status, some of the actual recognized chapters and organizing committees don't seem to have a Twitter presence though

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B9sO_ZgEJM6yvazMDs2FHVhJmT71YmTziAdQEyt2_uA/pubhtml

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Oh Hell No posted:

now with links and recognition status, some of the actual recognized chapters and organizing committees don't seem to have a Twitter presence though

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B9sO_ZgEJM6yvazMDs2FHVhJmT71YmTziAdQEyt2_uA/pubhtml

western CT is not recognized, we just have sick rear end memes

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

thing

ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 22:08 on Sep 28, 2021

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Colorado Springs (not recognized) also has a Twitter, which can be found here: https://twitter.com/DsaSprings

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





SomeMathGuy posted:

Colorado Springs (not recognized) also has a Twitter, which can be found here: https://twitter.com/DsaSprings

Looking forward to you guys becoming a chapter. I know some of the Denver dudes are trying to help! :)

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


lancemantis posted:

but if you're in that meeting who's watching the rest of the state?

the tumble weeds can blow themselves well enough with out me watching

Oh Hell No
Oct 10, 2007

I've got the world on a string.


drat new chapters are popping up fast

going to keep leaving off high school chapters, and when the guy who controls our chapter's Gmail account gets back in town, i'll ask him to host the spreadsheet on that account so it can just be shared and updated/corrected whenever

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B9sO_ZgEJM6yvazMDs2FHVhJmT71YmTziAdQEyt2_uA/pubhtml

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Internet Explorer posted:

Looking forward to you guys becoming a chapter. I know some of the Denver dudes are trying to help! :)

I'm actually with Boulder; I'm trying to stay on top of where locals in Colorado are because I'm pushing for us to hand off contact information to the correct folks once it's all sorted.

And yes I know we're causing everything to get mucked up, despite being the pre-existing local we've ballooned in size so administrative details are being ironed out and we're kind of overwhelmed. :sweatdrop:

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

hey uh can we pledge not to do gross twitter garbage that hurts the movement by reinforcing the impression that we're all berniebros/brocialists pls thx

like, what this tweet is describing is not okay:
https://twitter.com/girlziplocked/status/838023628407128064

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
That tweets replies is full of concern trolling about sexist berniebros lol

Color me skeptical

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





SomeMathGuy posted:

I'm actually with Boulder; I'm trying to stay on top of where locals in Colorado are because I'm pushing for us to hand off contact information to the correct folks once it's all sorted.

And yes I know we're causing everything to get mucked up, despite being the pre-existing local we've ballooned in size so administrative details are being ironed out and we're kind of overwhelmed. :sweatdrop:

Oh! Yeah, we are trying to help Colo Springs and one other that I am forgetting the name of. Awesome to hear that you guys in Boulder are getting a lot of new members. At our last Denver meeting there was a pretty long talk about what we could do to help you guys grow to counteract the fact that we're inadvertently taking some of your members.

It's awake to see the DSA growing so quickly in our areas. Hopefully once we all get a little more organized we can help work together more often!

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Ace of Baes posted:

That tweets replies is full of concern trolling about sexist berniebros lol

Color me skeptical

reflexively doubting stuff that puts us in a bad light without taking the time for self-crit is the sort of stuff that makes the berniebro stench stronger, not weaker :/

when a comrade reports a problem, immediately jumping to "hm i am skeptical that this is actually happening" rather than "oh poo poo, we might have a problem, let's investigate it" makes bad poo poo more likely to fester :(

so please don't?

ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 21:06 on Mar 4, 2017

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Ace of Baes posted:

That tweets replies is full of concern trolling about sexist berniebros lol

Color me skeptical

"It's a false flag" says the lefist, using the same logic Trump used last week to blame the Jews for the rise of antisemitism

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

zegermans posted:

"It's a false flag" says the lefist, using the same logic Trump used last week to blame the Jews for the rise of antisemitism

You're a dumbass retard who loves Hillary Clinton please get the gently caress out of this thread. :D

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

reflexively doubting stuff that puts us in a bad light without taking the time for self-crit is the sort of stuff that makes the berniebro stench stronger, not weaker :/

when a comrade reports a problem, immediately jumping to "hm i am skeptical that this is actually happening" rather than "oh poo poo, we might have a problem, let's investigate it" makes bad poo poo more likely to fester :(

so please don't?

Neoliberals strategy of focusing on the individual and extrapolating bad behavior to try and be blanket for leftism is a tactic clintonites have been using since 2008 "obama-bros" and doesn't adress anything except smear the left and redirect the conversation away from issues

I'd be less skeptical if there hadn't been an organized funded private and governmental war of propaganda against labor and the left for the past 40 years

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

No True Leftist would be sexist as poo poo

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011
women in the dsa were getting harassed by these people so gently caress off zegermans

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

hey uh can we pledge not to do gross twitter garbage that hurts the movement by reinforcing the impression that we're all berniebros/brocialists pls thx

like, what this tweet is describing is not okay:
https://twitter.com/girlziplocked/status/838023628407128064

I'm having a little trouble following the images and thread. Are there democratic socialists harassing women on twitter, and the images are either an example of it or someone fighting back against it?

And the Chapo boys are womanhaters? That's pretty troubling if true. I thought they were just well-read funny boys.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.
Its important to step beck and acknowledge that there are a lot of awful people out there, and they tend to become more awful when empowered by the anonymity of the internet. This is true of every org and movement anywhere, ever.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

cheese posted:

Its important to step beck and acknowledge that there are a lot of awful people out there, and they tend to become more awful when empowered by the anonymity of the internet. This is true of every org and movement anywhere, ever.

It's important for Democrats to generalize as many groups of ppl as possible as sexist, racist, naive, etc. to make sure they don't accidentally win elections.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Ace of Baes posted:

It's important for Democrats to generalize as many groups of ppl as possible as sexist, racist, naive, etc. to make sure they don't accidentally win elections.
Doesn't matter. Once they get that sweet, sweet Bernie email list, they will be positively swimming in 27 dollar donations.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I gave Bernie $50

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

zegermans posted:

I gave Bernie $50

I threw 20 bucks at a couple of those "Split a donation with Bernie and <whoever>".

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

zegermans posted:

I gave Bernie $50

Nobody gives a poo poo. Go away.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Ace of Baes posted:

Nobody gives a poo poo. Go away.

This thread is your thread this thread is my thread

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

OhFunny posted:

New Hampshire should be filing for formal chapter recognition this month.

Although I was told a state wide chapter is discouraged, but there aren't five people in one place since NH is very suburban.
A state wide chapter in a small state seems like it would make sense. I would imagine the idea is to have the smallest, most local chapters possible. In places like CA Bay area, that is a bunch of chapters all over the place, but seems like a poor model for low population areas.

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

If you go statewide, the best advice I can give right now is have a plan in place in case membership increases such that more locals become necessary (e.g. to avoid commutes). Keep your registered member lists sorted based on, say, counties, or geographically proximate zip codes, or what have you, and up to date. Make sure some clear parliamentary duties are sorted out even when your membership count is low and that whoever the state contact is is aware they could potentially be dealing with a large influx of emails if something drives new member registrations.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

hey uh can we pledge not to do gross twitter garbage that hurts the movement by reinforcing the impression that we're all berniebros/brocialists pls thx

like, what this tweet is describing is not okay:
https://twitter.com/girlziplocked/status/838023628407128064

I opened this up prepared to mad at stupid dsa people doing stupid poo poo and I gotta be honest I have no idea what that turned into but it seemed ugly and stupid and drat did it happen quick.

Whoever wrote the quote from the image is a right dick though and if they serve in any way as a dsa rep they should be told to get out.

But stupid poo poo is gonna happen, not even the professional politicians stop their own from doing stupid poo poo and the barriers to entry are much stronger there. We need to call out and condemn stupid poo poo, strongly and quickly and succinctly, and then drown it in positive stuff to the extent we are able. Marginalize the idiots rather than giving them a platform

(while rightly being cautious of political enemies who would seek to use our criticisms to grant those assholes a platform because it serves their ends to make us look bad by association or who would use that behaviour to spread generalized and vague sweeping condemnations - but that comes AFTER the self policing)

GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 02:45 on Mar 5, 2017

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Twitter just seems like such a bad means of expression. It's just void-shouting with a high probability of being misunderstood and of understanding others. I don't see why people use it for anything other than sharing events and information.

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