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haha, that's indeed the real dub. Once i was tricked into listening to the first ep, I figured I may as well check out Ep 2 so I could hear kanna say cuck The voicework is good, but Kobayashi using that line on a kid she just met is quite a character change and aligns with what I see with a lot of Funi dubwork—dry-humor, PG-13 dialogue that you expect from popular western TV shows nowadays.
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I am deeply, deeply saddened by this new knowledge. 
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Mar 4, 2017 11:31
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... no. ... ... no.
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Mar 4, 2017 13:37
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:... no. 
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Mar 4, 2017 14:15
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That should also be an emote.
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Mar 4, 2017 15:00
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dragon maid abridged seems to be coming along nicely
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Mar 4, 2017 15:12
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Space Flower posted:haha, that's indeed the real dub. Once i was tricked into listening to the first ep, I figured I may as well check out Ep 2 so I could hear kanna say cuck Nah, the voice acting is pretty bad. Kanna sounds like a completely different character in English.
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Mar 4, 2017 15:26
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And she sounds like she's a lot older than a child dragon. It's just bad.
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Mar 4, 2017 15:41
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Not that I have an ear for what I don't watch, mind you, but I just thought I'd put in more than 'zOMG DUBS!!! NO!!!!!'
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Mar 4, 2017 15:56
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Kobayashi sounds fine. Kanna doesn't. I'm sure studios could get child voice actors for anime like they do with cartoons such as bravest warriors.
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Mar 4, 2017 16:17
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Space Flower posted:Not that I have an ear for what I don't watch, mind you, but I just thought I'd put in more than 'zOMG DUBS!!! NO!!!!!' Meat Beat Agent posted:"This adorable child's voice isn't obnoxious enough. We can do better" The Colonel posted:that line doesn't even remotely fit in the scene what why Comrade Kirov posted:It's the quality of joke lines we've writen... StrixNebulosa posted:Slutshaming? Mill Village posted:Nah, the voice acting is pretty bad. Kanna sounds like a completely different character in English. Rodenthar Drothman posted:And she sounds like she's a lot older than a child dragon. I don't know what more you want from us.
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Mar 4, 2017 16:19
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dub-Kobayashi cares about slut shaming? What's she gonna say when she sees Lucoa for the first time, "I respect you clothing choices"?
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Mar 4, 2017 16:47
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I don't know what more you want from us. Not like that, I meant I was trying to toss it a compliment before I called it dumb, but I didn't have much reasoning behind the voices since dubs sound off to me almost all the time and this just seemed alright in relativity.
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Mar 4, 2017 16:57
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Funi's simuldub effort in general seems to be a real mess from what I've seen. I checked out the Izetta dub because I thought the western setting could lend itself to good english VA, but dropped it like a rock when it became clear that the two female leads in the lesbian war romance are both RWBY Season 1-level terrible. Which was a real shame, because I thought Fine's VA in particular was one of the original show's few real highlights. Haven't heard many nice things about any of the other simuldubs either.
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Mar 4, 2017 17:10
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Guy Goodbody posted:dub-Kobayashi cares about slut shaming? What's she gonna say when she sees Lucoa for the first time, "I respect you clothing choices"? The real crime is what they did to Fafnir: https://my.mixtape.moe/augyar.webm
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Mar 4, 2017 17:31
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Helter Skelter posted:It's just more diplomatic phrasing: "Doesn't leave a lot to the imagination, does it?"  They drained the life out of him. Instead of being angry, he just seems ... lifeless.
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Mar 4, 2017 17:34
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Space Flower posted:Not that I have an ear for what I don't watch, mind you, but I just thought I'd put in more than 'zOMG DUBS!!! NO!!!!!' As someone who grew up watching anime dubbed, I can appreciate a good dub. I only watch anime subbed if its the only option or the dub is bad.
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Mar 4, 2017 17:44
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Mill Village posted:As someone who grew up watching anime dubbed, I can appreciate a good dub. I only watch anime subbed if its the only option or the dub is bad. This dub is bad, OP I do love good dubs too, sometimes they freaking nail it with the dub. I think recently they did a great job with MHA, and a good job with OPM. Other than those, I'm not sure I could name a recent good dub.
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Mar 4, 2017 18:05
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I grew up watching anime dubbed that's why I only watch it subbed now unless I have a gun to my head, and then it'd be a tough choice.
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Mar 4, 2017 18:10
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Helter Skelter posted:It's just more diplomatic phrasing: "Doesn't leave a lot to the imagination, does it?" "kill me...I'm already dead inside" is a drastic rewriting of that line too, like wow
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Mar 4, 2017 18:21
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Good dubs are nice sometimes, but they're also extremely thin on the ground. The only ones I can name off the top of my head are the Evangelion Rebuilds and Haruhi dubs, and even in those cases it's kind of undercut by the original VA's being INCREDIBLY good. Edit: Also holy poo poo that Fafnir dub is an abomination. Even aside from the stiff delivery, the lines are just bad. He's supposed to be aloof and above-it-all, not actively hostile to the rest of the cast and their antics. Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mar 4, 2017 18:24
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z0glin Warchief posted:"kill me...I'm already dead inside" is a drastic rewriting of that line too, like wow And it doesn't really garner Kobayashi's and Takiya's response, either. They should be rolling their eyes at the emo kid, not scared that he wants to end humanity because he has to change appearance for a dinner party.
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Mar 4, 2017 18:26
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z0glin Warchief posted:"kill me...I'm already dead inside" is a drastic rewriting of that line too, like wow The dialogue as a whole in the dub feels like they're trying to make everyone sound 10 years younger and from 1997.
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Mar 4, 2017 18:29
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Spiritus Nox posted:Good dubs are nice sometimes, but they're also extremely thin on the ground. The only ones I can name off the top of my head are the Evangelion Rebuilds and Haruhi dubs, and even in those cases it's kind of undercut by the original VA's being INCREDIBLY good. ouran high school, cowboy bebop, redline and space dandy are the four really good dubs i can name off the top of my head, and space dandy is kind of a special case
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Mar 4, 2017 18:39
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Don't forget Cromartie High School.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Good dubs are nice sometimes, but they're also extremely thin on the ground. The only ones I can name off the top of my head are the Evangelion Rebuilds and Haruhi dubs, and even in those cases it's kind of undercut by the original VA's being INCREDIBLY good. Which is kind of a shame, as I'd bet it would be easier to grow the market, at least in the US, if most shows had dubs on par with the quality of the original. I doubt we ever see the budget for that on a wide scale though. Same with translation quality. 
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The Colonel posted:ouran high school, cowboy bebop, redline and space dandy are the four really good dubs i can name off the top of my head, and space dandy is kind of a special case
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Mar 4, 2017 18:55
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Countblanc posted:Shin-chan ghost stories
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Helter Skelter posted:The dialogue as a whole in the dub feels like they're trying to make everyone sound 10 years younger and from 1997. Except kanna, whom they made 10 years older. Like, they just leveled everything out.
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Mar 4, 2017 19:04
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I don't think I've ever heard a good little girl dub voice. It always sounds like a grown woman pitching her voice up.
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Mar 4, 2017 19:13
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rip kanna
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Mar 4, 2017 20:01
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Other cases where the dub is the correct choice: Big O, Panty and Stocking, ROD, Gundam Wing This is not one of those cases. They're probably even going to make a gamergate joke.
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Mar 4, 2017 20:03
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Baccano! And by the same token, though I only saw some of it, Blood Blockade Battlefront.
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Mar 4, 2017 20:05
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Dragon Ball's such a long running institution that I often forget to classify it alongside mortal, 1-cour anime, but that's another good one. Especially since Kai.
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Mar 4, 2017 20:09
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:rip kanna 
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Mar 4, 2017 20:14
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i dont like this dub imo
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Mar 4, 2017 20:15
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the best solution is to just learn japanese and watch it raw, imo
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Mar 4, 2017 20:17
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lol why is Kanna an angry tween and why is she yelling cuck
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Mar 4, 2017 20:17
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Beasteh posted:lol why is Kanna an angry tween and why is she yelling cuck To be fair, the "cuckold" was there originally. "Netorare!" All in the delivery.
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PSG is the perfect example of a great dub that takes a lot of liberties in localization while keeping the core of the characters the same. This is not that. I think the voices are more-or-less good and no one sounds stilted in these clips, but the re-writing doesn't show any concern for keeping the characters intact. Good dubs are very hard and I don't think rushing them out the door will ever be worthwhile. Kanna did indeed accuse Kobayashi of NTR'ing Tohru away, but isn't a cuckold the cuck-ee rather than the cuck-er? hoobajoo fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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