wyoming posted:

Christianity has become, maybe going to church on Sundays, definitely holidays, and the rest of the time, whatever, maybe shout you're a good Christian if someone challenges your opinion on something.
Interesting though, it's not the entirety of it, but I do believe that could be a key component.

CelticPredator posted:

It's just Trump is so bad that Bush seems less bad in hindsight.

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

Man, Juan Thompson being arrested for those bomb threats is loving wild. Especially after The Intercept published a story about how it was obviously being done by Trump supporters, and then bam, it was a dude who used to work for The Intercept but got fired for making poo poo up.

plz dont pull out posted:

From what I heard Thompson's calls were only 8 out of over a hundred or so. What he did was gross but doesn't explain the overall trend we're seeing.

Alhazred posted:

It's the same for most muslims : https://translate.google.com/transl...B8se&edit-text=

Alhazred posted:

It's the same for most muslims : https://translate.google.com/transl...B8se&edit-text=

Lurdiak posted:

I dreamt that there was a real huge fat cat Garfield was based on and that I was petting it. I blame Lasagna cat and my medication.

Hat Thoughts posted:

https://twitter.com/deray/status/833335020773339136

plz dont pull out posted:

Do you follow any particular sect of Christianity or is it more a personal thing?

Jenny Angel posted:

I forget who is was but someone on left twitter said he was the Phineas Gage of our era, except instead of a railroad spike he got impaled in the skull by brand engagement


I was raised in a Polish immigrant household that was deeply culturally Catholic but didn't actually believe in God or care much about specific teachings that didn't have to do with rituals and defining a community. I kinda ended up as the exact opposite - I've always believed in the divinity of Christ and was absolutely fascinated by His teachings from an early age, but found the ritualistic aspects of the faith completely unappealing - partially because I was a bratty little girl and sitting through a Catholic mass suuuuuuucked, but also because as the years wore on I found that community more and more lacking. I guess I had this utopian idea that the kids in the religious education classes my parents sent me to were gonna be these kind, Christlike figures, but it turned out I was the only one there dweeby enough to actually want to talk about the Bible at all. The only way I ended up being able to relate to any of them was finding the one kid lamer than i was and being a catty bitch to him until the other kids found enough of my weak-as-gently caress roasts funny. The idea that this alleged community of faith was making me act like an actively worse person was, to say the least, uncomfortable

About that same time, this was when I would've been maybe 12 and my older brother was 14, he announced that he'd gotten into Ayn Rand and had read the whole Bible and decided that God wasn't real anymore, so I started freaking out and thinking like, oh poo poo, I better do the same thing (luckily the only Ayn Rand I ended up being able to make it through was like three quarters of Anthem) or else I'll be left in the dust as these cool older intellectuals forge on. It was dicey going during a lot of the Old Testament, but when I got to the Gospels I just kept getting more and more psyched about how cool Jesus was. Like, understanding how fully hip-youth-pastor this is to say, I started thinking of Jesus as this total badass, grinning like an idiot whenever He outsmarted whatever pack of Pharisee clowns in a really chill, playful way. Everything He was saying made total sense and felt like something I still absolutely wanted to be part of, so I started asking myself whether it was possible to hold onto that but pretty much ditch the parts of the faith that did nothing for me once I wrapped up my Confirmation like a good Catholic

Of course, the answer is yeah, just study the Bible on your own and seek out writings by interesting Christian thinkers and try to lead a life like Christ would've wanted. By college I was getting slightly embarrassed and nervous about it whenever a cultured Harvard atheist had something sharp to say about religious people, but that's really more my class anxiety than anything else. I was still ready to just tear into a giddy speech about how Jesus is Way Cool at the slightest indication that someone was interested in hearing it, and during a teaching program I was part of during the winter of '13, I even uh, kinda accidentally converted another kid to Christianity. We were all staying in the same apartment and some of us would always stay up late talking in the common room, and I learned pretty early on that she'd lost her faith after her dad died and her mom wasn't able to give good answers about where he was now, but still thought that Jesus as a man and teacher was really cool in a way similar to how I did. On the last day of the program someone else mentioned Christians as this vague, far-off concept and she butted in with "I mean, Jenny and I are Christians!". That hadn't even been what I was trying to do, but after asking her about it later it turned out that our talks had helped her restore her faith and confirm her sense that even if some people are absolutely terrible at being Christians, it didn't mean she couldn't try her best to be one

Later on, I mentioned that incident in passing to a high school friend of mine who was a much more traditional right-wing evangelical Christian, and he seemed kinda surprised that I would even care. Like, he knew I believed that you didn't need to be a Christian to enter heaven, so why would I be happy about helping someone else find her faith? It took me a little bit to articulate an answer because yeah, absolutely, if I don't believe in any nonsense about saving souls and being born again, that's the obvious motive out the window. But I was eventually able to explain that it warms up my heart to see anyone commit to any positive belief system in a way that makes them happier and makes them love their neighbor more. If she had come out of those discussions saying "Yeah, I love the moral teachings of Jesus, but they're still really disconnected from any kind of belief in His divinity and these talks have mostly just reaffirmed a humanist atheist view of the world for me", I hope I would've been just as happy

That's kinda a bigger answer than the specific question you asked called for, but I wanted to sorta indirectly respond as well to the questions of like, how and why one can be a progressive Christian. I totally get how tribalism is part and parcel with the faith in the broad cultural understanding of it, but if there's one thing that my brief Smug Rational Libertarian phase did for me, it's entrench the idea that tribal and blindly loyal mentalities are ones I wanna try and watch out for whenever they show up

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

I've been watching a bunch of modern Mexican movies, like Heli (who's director just did a sci-fi erotic tentacle monster movie which is getting well received at festivals, it sounds nuts), After Lucia, Carlos Reygadas poo poo amongst other things. It feels like they have a cool scene going there these days, featuring a lot of brutally depressing movies, does anybody have any recommendations from it?

I was considering starting a thread but it looks like this forum doesn't really do Country-based threads

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

I've been watching a bunch of modern Mexican movies, like Heli (who's director just did a sci-fi erotic tentacle monster movie which is getting well received at festivals, it sounds nuts), After Lucia, Carlos Reygadas poo poo amongst other things. It feels like they have a cool scene going there these days, featuring a lot of brutally depressing movies, does anybody have any recommendations from it?

I was considering starting a thread but it looks like this forum doesn't really do Country-based threads

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

I've been watching a bunch of modern Mexican movies, like Heli (who's director just did a sci-fi erotic tentacle monster movie which is getting well received at festivals, it sounds nuts), After Lucia, Carlos Reygadas poo poo amongst other things. It feels like they have a cool scene going there these days, featuring a lot of brutally depressing movies, does anybody have any recommendations from it?

I was considering starting a thread but it looks like this forum doesn't really do Country-based threads

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

sci-fi erotic tentacle monster movie

Jenny Angel posted:

CPL593H posted:

I don't believe that you can be a true progressive and also a Christian.

Coffee And Pie posted:

Blessed object:

I love these movies so much, a perfect trilogy. Beyond excited for Baby Driver.

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

I've been watching a bunch of modern Mexican movies, like Heli (who's director just did a sci-fi erotic tentacle monster movie which is getting well received at festivals, it sounds nuts), After Lucia, Carlos Reygadas poo poo amongst other things. It feels like they have a cool scene going there these days, featuring a lot of brutally depressing movies, does anybody have any recommendations from it?

I was considering starting a thread but it looks like this forum doesn't really do Country-based threads

Jenny Angel posted:

I was raised in a Polish immigrant household that was deeply culturally Catholic but didn't actually believe in God or care much about specific teachings that didn't have to do with rituals and defining a community. I kinda ended up as the exact opposite - I've always believed in the divinity of Christ and was absolutely fascinated by His teachings from an early age, but found the ritualistic aspects of the faith completely unappealing - partially because I was a bratty little girl and sitting through a Catholic mass suuuuuuucked, but also because as the years wore on I found that community more and more lacking. I guess I had this utopian idea that the kids in the religious education classes my parents sent me to were gonna be these kind, Christlike figures, but it turned out I was the only one there dweeby enough to actually want to talk about the Bible at all. The only way I ended up being able to relate to any of them was finding the one kid lamer than i was and being a catty bitch to him until the other kids found enough of my weak-as-gently caress roasts funny. The idea that this alleged community of faith was making me act like an actively worse person was, to say the least, uncomfortable

About that same time, this was when I would've been maybe 12 and my older brother was 14, he announced that he'd gotten into Ayn Rand and had read the whole Bible and decided that God wasn't real anymore, so I started freaking out and thinking like, oh poo poo, I better do the same thing (luckily the only Ayn Rand I ended up being able to make it through was like three quarters of Anthem) or else I'll be left in the dust as these cool older intellectuals forge on. It was dicey going during a lot of the Old Testament, but when I got to the Gospels I just kept getting more and more psyched about how cool Jesus was. Like, understanding how fully hip-youth-pastor this is to say, I started thinking of Jesus as this total badass, grinning like an idiot whenever He outsmarted whatever pack of Pharisee clowns in a really chill, playful way. Everything He was saying made total sense and felt like something I still absolutely wanted to be part of, so I started asking myself whether it was possible to hold onto that but pretty much ditch the parts of the faith that did nothing for me once I wrapped up my Confirmation like a good Catholic

Of course, the answer is yeah, just study the Bible on your own and seek out writings by interesting Christian thinkers and try to lead a life like Christ would've wanted. By college I was getting slightly embarrassed and nervous about it whenever a cultured Harvard atheist had something sharp to say about religious people, but that's really more my class anxiety than anything else. I was still ready to just tear into a giddy speech about how Jesus is Way Cool at the slightest indication that someone was interested in hearing it, and during a teaching program I was part of during the winter of '13, I even uh, kinda accidentally converted another kid to Christianity. We were all staying in the same apartment and some of us would always stay up late talking in the common room, and I learned pretty early on that she'd lost her faith after her dad died and her mom wasn't able to give good answers about where he was now, but still thought that Jesus as a man and teacher was really cool in a way similar to how I did. On the last day of the program someone else mentioned Christians as this vague, far-off concept and she butted in with "I mean, Jenny and I are Christians!". That hadn't even been what I was trying to do, but after asking her about it later it turned out that our talks had helped her restore her faith and confirm her sense that even if some people are absolutely terrible at being Christians, it didn't mean she couldn't try her best to be one

Later on, I mentioned that incident in passing to a high school friend of mine who was a much more traditional right-wing evangelical Christian, and he seemed kinda surprised that I would even care. Like, he knew I believed that you didn't need to be a Christian to enter heaven, so why would I be happy about helping someone else find her faith? It took me a little bit to articulate an answer because yeah, absolutely, if I don't believe in any nonsense about saving souls and being born again, that's the obvious motive out the window. But I was eventually able to explain that it warms up my heart to see anyone commit to any positive belief system in a way that makes them happier and makes them love their neighbor more. If she had come out of those discussions saying "Yeah, I love the moral teachings of Jesus, but they're still really disconnected from any kind of belief in His divinity and these talks have mostly just reaffirmed a humanist atheist view of the world for me", I hope I would've been just as happy

That's kinda a bigger answer than the specific question you asked called for, but I wanted to sorta indirectly respond as well to the questions of like, how and why one can be a progressive Christian. I totally get how tribalism is part and parcel with the faith in the broad cultural understanding of it, but if there's one thing that my brief Smug Rational Libertarian phase did for me, it's entrench the idea that tribal and blindly loyal mentalities are ones I wanna try and watch out for whenever they show up

Anonymous Robot posted:

Woah, the DVD release of Targets totally omits the brutal, cutting title card that introduces the picture by listing gun massacres that immediately predate the film and then asking why, in 1968, we still don't have adequate firearms legislation. I can't find it online either so maybe it's unique to the ratty 35mm print I saw?

MisterBibs posted:

Man, who made the last third of Logan, and why did he/she not make the other two-thirds? Less comic book characters being old and dying while the world they live in goes to poo poo, more stabby stabby fight fight to save people.

CelticPredator posted:

Lmao no loving way Jesus Christ.

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Ah dammit I'm watching Sausage Party