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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/838395128511410179

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VIRGIN HEAT
May 1, 2009

Hi everyone,

My twin brother Ray, who occasionally posted here as Chocolate Teapot, passed away yesterday peacefully in his sleep.

He developed sepsis following the end of his chemotherapy treatment over a month ago, causing multiple organ failure. His body was unable to recover without intensive medical treatment.

I want to show my appreciation for everyone who has made this a place he felt home in, even if he didn't post a lot.

Thank you.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
I'm sad to hear that and I wish you and fam the best. The thread loses a good comrade.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

poo poo, sorry. I remember him posting a bit, UKMT usually attracts the good people

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Sorry for that friend, losing people like that is horrible :(

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ah poo poo, hope you and the family are doing okay. I'm glad he found some comfort/fun times in the UKMT

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Fangz posted:

Nice deflection. So why did you quote the Mail then? Is it just your usual news source? Why do you think the Mail is frontpaging made up stuff about Blair? Just innocently informing the public?

I quoted it to make the amusing post "Okay he's just trolling us at this point".

I'm still intrigued why you think an attack on Tony Blair is an attack on New Labour, though?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Regarde Aduck posted:

It's a poll. Polls don't lie. Eat the poll you hungry piece of poo poo.

Polls of labour members do. They're the idiots who elected Corbyn twice, remember?



VIRGIN HEAT posted:

Hi everyone,

My twin brother Ray, who occasionally posted here as Chocolate Teapot, passed away yesterday peacefully in his sleep.

I remember this guy. Sorry for your loss.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

VIRGIN HEAT posted:

Hi everyone,

My twin brother Ray, who occasionally posted here as Chocolate Teapot, passed away yesterday peacefully in his sleep.

He developed sepsis following the end of his chemotherapy treatment over a month ago, causing multiple organ failure. His body was unable to recover without intensive medical treatment.

I want to show my appreciation for everyone who has made this a place he felt home in, even if he didn't post a lot.

Thank you.

Sorry for your loss.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

VIRGIN HEAT posted:

Hi everyone,

My twin brother Ray, who occasionally posted here as Chocolate Teapot, passed away yesterday peacefully in his sleep.

He developed sepsis following the end of his chemotherapy treatment over a month ago, causing multiple organ failure. His body was unable to recover without intensive medical treatment.

I want to show my appreciation for everyone who has made this a place he felt home in, even if he didn't post a lot.

Thank you.

Sorry for your loss, mate. Keep him alive in your memories, and be well

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I quoted it to make the amusing post "Okay he's just trolling us at this point".

I'm still intrigued why you think an attack on Tony Blair is an attack on New Labour, though?

The Daily Mail is 'trolling us', while you assume what it says to be true, if it involves Tony Blair. Why is that?

And er, yeah? Tony Blair and New Labour are kinda connected? You think the Mail is frontpaging this for giggles?

Fangz fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 5, 2017

Laradus
Feb 16, 2011
I remember seeing posts by Chocolate Teapot. I'm sorry for your loss. :(

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4282190/Tony-Blair-s-secret-White-House-summit-work-Trump.html

this is coming from a uk news source so obviosuly it's likely to be bullshit but haha is this for real?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Fangz posted:

The Daily Mail is 'trolling us', while you assume what it says to be true, if it involves Tony Blair. Why is that?

And er, yeah? Tony Blair and New Labour are kinda connected? You think the Mail is frontpaging this for giggles?

No, the joke was I thought that Tony Blair was personally trolling us by wanting to be Trump's peace envoy to the Middle East and leaking this plan to the Daily Mail. It was such a perfect sotrm of annoyances for this thread, it seemed an amusing thing to say.

New Labour was a much, much bigger project than Blair, and one that started before the odious little poo poo even entered Parliament. Conflating the two is done by precisely two kinds of people - the kind of people who thought calling him BLIAR and his party ZaNU PF LIEbour was Swftian satire, and the kind of people who think the sun shines out of his arse and the odd million dead brown people is a decent price to pay for watered-down Third Way-ism. I doubted you were the former.

And the Mail put it on the front page because they very definitely are the former and still have a hate-boner for him that puts most of this thread to shame, and are loving horrified that he would be cosying up to their flaxen-haired fascist darling. Unless you genuinely think a) St. Tony will return from the wilderness to reclaim his throne and b) that the Mail made the story up to discredit him in the minds of the Beige Army waiting to follow him to the neoliberal promised land.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The Independent was running the Blair Trump story as well

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
Unforced Corbyn error #456741235: in which our hero makes his tax return public to try and grandstand about his probity, only to reveal that he's hosed it up for the second year running and forgotten to declare £37k of income

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39175570

quote:

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has published his tax return as part of a call for transparency from politicians.
But the return appears to omit around £37,000 he was entitled to as leader of the opposition.
The figures showed that Mr Corbyn earned a total of £114,342 in salary and pension payments.
The publication came as Chancellor Phillip Hammond declined a challenge to publish his own taxes, calling it "demonstration politics".
'Public trust'
The return details Mr Corbyn's earnings of £77,019 - mostly from his MP's salary of £74,000 - along with a pension of £36,045, £1,200 from self-employment and £78 in interest.
He paid income tax of £35,298 for the year 2015-16, after becoming Labour leader in September 2015.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Jeremy published his tax return again and managed to gently caress it up again well done Jeremy.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

That's our Jeremy :negative:

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
I think Jeremy is the product of some Tory project to create their perfect Labour leader.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

As ever, he's making a good point but finding a way to gently caress up.

That said I'll still vote for him.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I wasn't aware that leader of the opposition did get paid more.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Where's the 36 grand p/a pension from? That's not the Leader of the Opposition increment in the wrong column is it?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Jesus Christ people, that's still by far the closest I've seen a politician come to a real, clean tax return. I mean I've seen politicians declare huge mansions with helipads on them for $1 value and nothing happen, in comparison this dude forgetting to declare £35k is a breath of fresh air.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I think Jeremy is the product of some Tory project to create their perfect Labour leader.

Thatcher already completed this project though?

If anything Corbyn is the twisted creature that crawled out of the pod unnoticed after Blair was complete, composed entirely of the parts he left behind, like socialism, but drained of charisma. The Anti-Tone.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Hasn't he got loving people to check his workings for fucks sake? When you make a point like this you want it really loving accurate right?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Where's the 36 grand p/a pension from? That's not the Leader of the Opposition increment in the wrong column is it?

He's a pensioner, mp pension probably.

Pochoclo posted:

Jesus Christ people, that's still by far the closest I've seen a politician come to a real, clean tax return. I mean I've seen politicians declare huge mansions with helipads on them for $1 value and nothing happen, in comparison this dude forgetting to declare £35k is a breath of fresh air.

If you're making the political point that people over a certain income should post your tax returns, and getting the chancellor to call it demonstration politics instead of posting his own, it's an own goal to then miss the equivalent of 150% of a newly qualified nurses salary off your own income. It leaves him open to ridicule and he'll have to publicly deny any wrongdoing. The right wing press get to laugh at him instead of engaging with the point.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

Thatcher already completed this project though?

If anything Corbyn is the twisted creature that crawled out of the pod unnoticed after Blair was complete, composed entirely of the parts he left behind, like socialism, but drained of charisma. The Anti-Tone.

Oh yeah because that thing about Tony Blair actually being a Tory and all that those things that helped people were done in the wrong way great point.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Oh yeah because that thing about Tony Blair actually being a Tory and all that those things that helped people were done in the wrong way great point.

If you keep making the point that Tories must love Corbyn I'm going to keep reminding you that Thatcher actually loved Blair.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Seaside Loafer posted:

Hasn't he got loving people to check his workings for fucks sake? When you make a point like this you want it really loving accurate right?

You're right. You don't want to advertise your incompetent and utterly nullify the whole point of your stunt.

Unless you're a Tory sleeper agent like Jeremy Corbyn literally is.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

If you keep making the point that Tories must love Corbyn I'm going to keep reminding you that Thatcher actually loved Blair.

Yeah she loved new schools and hospitals and the minimum wage all things we remember thatcher for good catch.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Thatcher only regarded one of those two people as her greatest success tho

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Namtab posted:

Thatcher only regarded one of those two people as her greatest success tho
She also regarded the deliberate destruction of British industry as a "good thing", so I'm not sure you ought to trust her judgement tbh

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Namtab posted:

Thatcher only regarded one of those two people as her greatest success tho

I doubt she even knew who Corbyn was tbh.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm curious as to what Jez's explanation for the discrepancy is.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Some kind of fraud I expect.

VIRGIN HEAT
May 1, 2009

Thanks for your messages of remembrance guys. It's really appreciated.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean really if it is wrong it sort of proves his point, when it comes to people who actually make our tax law we should know if they themselves are following it and where their conflicts of interest might lie.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

OwlFancier posted:

I'm curious as to what Jez's explanation for the discrepancy is.
Its going to be 'whoops me or the accounts hosed up and everything is legal' but they should have got it 100% perfect first time so as not to cause a nonsense.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Namtab posted:

He's a pensioner, mp pension probably.

Back of the envelope calculation says that this is likely the right answer, assuming 1/50th accrual. Lucky MPs, getting to vest pension rights, and still draw the salary.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

I'm curious as to what Jez's explanation for the discrepancy is.
I blame Laura Kuennsburg.

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