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We're just trying to tell you in your weird Columbus bubble that Quincey is way worse.
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 22:21 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:10 |
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Was Dalton Prout ever traded for a 1st round pick? No? Well, alright then
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 22:22 |
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Prout is the sound a fart makes in French
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 22:25 |
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Here's some dubious advanced statting for generating some trade-deadline analysis debate: How much did each playoff team improve after the deadline? Oh, Habs...
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 23:28 |
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grack posted:Prout also dropped Milan Lucic in one punch, which I'm pretty sure makes you eligible for a Nobel Prize. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMpr3m5S7U
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 23:38 |
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:Interesting about Clendening. I haven't watched him closely but I've been hearing about how AV is nuts for not letting him play more because his possession stats are so good, but you've just described some of the downside with those metrics. It's why I always look at things like zone time and quality of competition; some guys shouldn't be playing more than 3rd-pairing sheltered minutes and I suppose he's one of them. I mean they'll then tell you that zone starts and QoC isn't important in these situations because *reasons* but yeah thing is often when guys like Staal or Girardi are out there they aren't usually giving up high quality chances against because they committed really bad errors or turnovers (usually). But they give up the puck so much in other ways that their possession stats are bad and they are bad. Clendenning drives shots well I think and he is pretty good in the offensive zone and following the play, but when he fucks up oh boy he fucks up and he does it often enough that it's noticeable. That said, I'm still kinda "eh" about evaluating the whole situation. Yeah you don't want him out there having to defend against really good players. Maybe he can move the puck out if he gets it but in the meantime he's going to be bad and his outlet pass might be a terrible turnover. I think with hard minutes you'd see his fancy stats crater, but who knows maybe I'm still blinded by the bad turnovers and defense without the puck
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 00:08 |
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grack posted:Talk about damning with faint praise
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 00:30 |
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Sergei Bobrovsky has allowed one goal in his last three games, and that goal was an OT GWG in Montreal. 3 shutouts in the last 6 for the CBJ if you account for Korpisalo vs. NYI. Oliver Bjorkstrand also likes scoring goals against New Jersey. Aphrodite posted:We're just trying to tell you in your weird Columbus bubble that Quincey is way worse. I'm just looking at the overall picture, much as I did with the Horton for Clarkson trade: neither choice (broken Horton or maybe-can-play-but-at-least-is-insured Clarkson, Prout who sucks or Quincey who also is Not Very Good) is particularly thrilling. Quincey has been neither good nor bad so far; he took a penalty causing a very brief 5-on-3 tonight, but it's in the net if he doesn't trip Palmieri. At best, Quincey's a serviceable bottom pair defenseman or maybe a useful #7. Worst case scenario, he indeed sucks and goes up to occupy Prout's seat in the press box while Nutivaara goes back onto the bottom pair, he isn't re-signed, and it frees up $1.575M in cap space which probably shouldn't have been alloted to Prout in the first place which, in turn, can be used for something nice. Or is that flawed logic from the weird Columbus bubble you try to pop at every opportunity with the focus of an angry five year old?
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 01:40 |
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Justin Schultz has 44 points this season
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:09 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Justin Schultz has 44 points this season Gonna be nice to spend Kunitz's $ on him.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:17 |
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Krime posted:Gonna be nice to spend Kunitz's $ on him. He is still Crosby's BFF, he is going to get another extension. How much is the only question. e: Holy poo poo is he really 36?
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:20 |
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Furnaceface posted:He is still Crosby's BFF, he is going to get another extension. How much is the only question. I can honestly see him staying on a 1 year deal that is extremely team friendly.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:24 |
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Colorado has five wins in their last 30 games.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:27 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Colorado has five wins in their last 30 games. One of them was shutting out Montreal 4-0.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:30 |
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Krime posted:I can honestly see him staying on a 1 year deal that is extremely team friendly. I'm not sure if anything that brings him back and has him attached to Sid's hip is team friendly. If they can restrain themselves and play him on the fourth line, sure.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:44 |
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That was just about the worst 3-0 win I've ever seen. Colorado is that bad.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:46 |
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Not bad for a guy who was the definition of a nothing trade last year
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 04:53 |
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glynnenstein posted:Oh, Habs... I can't wait to see who Bergevin protects at the expansion draft. e: lol why did I read the comments. Stiev Awt fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Krime posted:I can honestly see him staying on a 1 year deal that is extremely team friendly. I kind of wonder if a team like Edmonton or Toronto would offer him more because of intangibles or something - a guy who's won Cups, Olympic gold, played extensively with Crosby (and Malkin, hell, with Selanne and Niedermeyer too), Knows What it Takes to Win...I can see Lamoriello or Chiarelli thinking he'd be a good influence to have around McDavid or Matthews.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:22 |
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https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/838596445485875200 Wear a loving dangler, why even risk getting your throat blasted by a puck?
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:32 |
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Ginette Reno posted:
Don't think his bonafides as an offenseman were ever really in question. He wasn't up to the absurdly difficult task of being a #1 on a bad team, but there was always a lot of skill there. Kunitz's TOI is noticeably down this year, I think even the coaching staff recognizes they've got to play some of the younger guys instead. Mike_V posted:https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/838596445485875200 Danglers impede vision. Hockeymans are tough you know. I had a dangler explode once off a slapper in a pickup game. Playing the rest of that game was scary.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:33 |
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Jordan7hm posted:Don't think his bonafides as an offenseman were ever really in question. He wasn't up to the absurdly difficult task of being a #1 on a bad team, but there was always a lot of skill there. Thing is, Schultz's minutes have steadily gone up over the year due to injuries etc and he's still thriving. He owns. As far as Kunitz goes I'm not so sure you're right because the past month plus they've had him on Crosby's line at even strength and predictably that line has been rear end. They finally demoted him mid game today for Guentzel and Crosby ended up with like 9 shots on goal. Jake-Sid-Sheary should be a thing, or Sheary-Sid-Hornqvist. Kunitz is fine on the fourth line but for some reason he inevitably worms his way back into the top six.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:38 |
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Aside from times where injuries have left holes in the lineup, Kunitz has generally been off of Crosby's line and off the first power play, at least. Conor Sheary has mercifully put an end to Kunitz with Crosby for the most part. Also free Hornqvist. I miss him on the top line even if Sheary and Guentzel are probably legitimately the most talented wingers Sid's ever had outside of Team Canada. I have no idea why Hornqvist is on the third line except to try and balance out Bonino's horrible fancystats with Hornqvist's awesome ones.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:46 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Thing is, Schultz's minutes have steadily gone up over the year due to injuries etc and he's still thriving. He owns. Kunitz worms his way back because he's still a guy who can score ~35 EV points, and Pittsburgh's ice time distribution means guys who can produce at that rate will spend time with one of Crosby or Malkin. Kunitz has actually spent significantly more time with Malkin than with Crosby this year.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:47 |
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Suspicious posted:One of them was shutting out Montreal 4-0. They also have an overtime win over Columbus and a win of some sort over Pittsburgh. Varlamov stood on his head in the Columbus game. I was there.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:52 |
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News: Richard Bachman absolutely stole a win for Vancouver tonight, very much the same way Miller stole one last night. Views: Great time in the season to start doing this, guys.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:56 |
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Jordan7hm posted:Kunitz worms his way back because he's still a guy who can score ~35 EV points, and Pittsburgh's ice time distribution means guys who can produce at that rate will spend time with one of Crosby or Malkin. Kunitz has actually spent significantly more time with Malkin than with Crosby this year. I'd like to see Guentzel get a legitimate shot there with Sheary on the other side because that has looked good, and Guentzel has shown the ability to produce offense. I'm not sure I like Kessel on the third line any more either. Him and Malkin keep scoring together and yet they're constantly held apart. Sullivan is obsessed with having three strong lines but what worked last year hasn't worked so far this year since HBK has been a bad combo.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 06:24 |
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grack posted:News: Richard Bachman absolutely stole a win for Vancouver tonight, very much the same way Miller stole one last night. Did they play Goldy "goldballs" more than 6 minutes?
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 06:55 |
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Scaramouche posted:Did they play Goldy "goldballs" more than 6 minutes? 12 minutes. Definitely at the bottom of ice time for forwards but he got a chance on all three lines because Eriksson was hurt.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 06:59 |
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Alberta is gonna have 2 teams in the playoffs.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 08:11 |
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Richard Bachman made 43/44 saves against the Ducks? Canucks you're supposed to be losing
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 09:25 |
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devils performing admirably in the tank standings, although they're going to be in tough this week with away games in colorado and phoenix
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 12:17 |
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A wonderful tribute video from Tampa Bay looking back on the career of Mark Streit
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 14:52 |
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corn on the cop posted:devils performing admirably in the tank standings, although they're going to be in tough this week with away games in colorado and phoenix they may break 25 shots in one of those games
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 15:36 |
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I don't know why I found this so funny but I'm dying.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 15:40 |
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Ugh the Flyers have a road trip at the end of the month going through Winnipeg, Minnesota, Columbus and Pittsburgh. I can't help but feel that's going to be the season right there
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:11 |
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shyduck posted:Ugh the Flyers have a road trip at the end of the month going through Winnipeg, Minnesota, Columbus and Pittsburgh. I can't help but feel that's going to be the season right there Hell, if anything the season is this week. Winnable games vs. Buffalo, Toronto and Boston all on the road. I still think they finish just outside the playoffs but if nothing else maybe they gently caress things up for some of the higher up teams.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:21 |
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ESPN posted:Ken Holland of the Detroit Red Wings has suggested expanding the playoffs to nine or 10 teams in each conference with play-in games similar to MLB, and the strength of the Metropolitan Division this season -- where the fourth-place team has more points than the Atlantic Division leader -- has generated some questions. yeah, OK there Ken.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:27 |
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Yes if anything the NHL needs more playoff teams. Because more than half simply isn't enough.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:29 |
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The team with the longest playoff streak in league history that's about to miss the playoffs wants more playoff teams now, shocker
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