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rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?
Cage, don't buy a condo. There's no garage!

For everyone else saying not to buy a house this is upstate NY, the housing bubble never really hit. Cost has been and remains on the low end of things. Taxes are steep but the schools are funded well and snow is removed promptly.

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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

The Door Frame posted:

but the trade used to be worth it for the freedom and stability of owning your own property.

Still is in my opinion. As long as you approach your house not as an asset but as it truly is, the benefits of ownership are very much there. Kinda wish they didn't cost a gazillion bucks like they do in Sydney, this place is hosed if you want to buy. Or more precisely, have fun paying 750,000 for a shoebox if you don't want to live 70km out from the CBD.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

rdb posted:

Cage, don't buy a condo. There's no garage!

For everyone else saying not to buy a house this is upstate NY, the housing bubble never really hit. Cost has been and remains on the low end of things. Taxes are steep but the schools are funded well and snow is removed promptly.
There are actually a couple with one, but they cost a little more. The one I saw was within 5 minutes of my parents home so car work can be done there as usual.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005



How to cut down an overgrown Bradford pear, which is also hanging over the pasture fence, in 7 easy steps:

Drink coffee.

Cut down the easy limbs.

Put them in the burn pile. Repeat.

Now the fun part. Tie a rope from the offending limb, to your pull vehicle. Recommend a bowline knot or similar. Apply enough tension to relieve the limb pressure, careful not too much.

Cut the lower side of the limb, now relieved of compression force, about 3/4 through. Watch for cracks forming, Bradford Pear is very brittle.

Pull with your vehicle, careful not to overstress the rope. If done right, it will break and fall just as it gets over center.

Repeat as necessary. Rake up, you're done.

Now call someone with a backhoe. I loving love my little tractor.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
Looking at things as raw dollar amounts in asset/liability terms always weirds me out. Living is a depreciating asset, food is a waste and sleep loses me money. A house isn't an 'asset' and you don't get as much money back when you seek it but what about the actual living that's done in the meantime? What is the dollar amount when you derive satisfaction and enjoyment out of painting a wall whatever color you want whenever you want? Planting a tree just because? Those sort of freedoms have a very real worth that can't be put on a spreadsheet much like your favorite shoes aren't actually worth anything outside of this nebulous human aspect of worth.
Truly the easiest way to save money is to go to sleep and never wake up.

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?
Very nice. Having a little tractor kicks rear end. I used mine with a man basket on the loader yesterday to trim trees and clean gutters. So much easier than carrying the ladder.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
Wow, the iPhone doesn't have proper imap support in 2017. Lol

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

CharlesM posted:

Wow, the iPhone doesn't have proper imap support in 2017. Lol

How so? I have several IMAP accounts on my phone.

What sucks is that Google stopped supporting Exchange synch, so the only way to get gmail push notifications is to use their app.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
IMAP is supposed to let you get mail as it comes in. Not every 15 minutes.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

CharlesM posted:

IMAP is supposed to let you get mail as it comes in. Not every 15 minutes.

You can support IMAP without implementing IMAP IDLE. Do other mobile clients support IDLE? Looks like Apple doesn't because it supposedly eats battery. Push used to work via activesync but then Google broke it.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal

Raluek posted:

You can support IMAP without implementing IMAP IDLE. Do other mobile clients support IDLE? Looks like Apple doesn't because it supposedly eats battery. Push used to work via activesync but then Google broke it.

Yes, everything else I've ever used does. I'm not using gmail.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

CharlesM posted:

Yes, everything else I've ever used does. I'm not using gmail.

I don't have a lot of experience with Android, but it looks like the feature was missing in 2013 and I also read that in 2014 they phased out the built in email app to try to push everyone to gmail. You've had it working in the built in email app?

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal

Raluek posted:

I don't have a lot of experience with Android, but it looks like the feature was missing in 2013 and I also read that in 2014 they phased out the built in email app to try to push everyone to gmail. You've had it working in the built in email app?

I'm coming from Windows Phone. My Samsung tablet doesn't have any problem but I have no idea if that's stock android. The Kindle tablets all work fine for me too.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I know it's been happening since, like, forever, but I'm getting annoyed with companies lowering the weight/volume of product more and more while keeping prices the same and making no note on the package for the consumer to notice.

Latest catch: Pringles. Historically 160 gram can, now 148 grams. 10% less so physically it looks almost the same (You'd need them side by side to notice) but same selling price. I understand costs go up, but you can bet they'd change the label and mention it on a package if they go the other way like :siren: "EXTRA VALUE 10% MORE!!! SAME LOW PRICE!!!" :siren: but silent going the other way.

Also, before anyone shits on them, pringles are awesome and I'll cut anyone who says otherwise.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Still is in my opinion. As long as you approach your house not as an asset but as it truly is, the benefits of ownership are very much there. Kinda wish they didn't cost a gazillion bucks like they do in Sydney, this place is hosed if you want to buy. Or more precisely, have fun paying 750,000 for a shoebox if you don't want to live 70km out from the CBD.

Yeah, I'd disagree. Property is cheap out here in the flyovers, but I am holding off on buying because the last decade has taught me that there is no such thing as job security anymore. I can bail on a rental and be out an extra month's rent if I have to move to chase work availability. Not so much if I have to try and sell a house in a town that's just had a economic downturn.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





slidebite posted:

I know it's been happening since, like, forever, but I'm getting annoyed with companies lowering the weight/volume of product more and more while keeping prices the same and making no note on the package for the consumer to notice.

Latest catch: Pringles. Historically 160 gram can, now 148 grams. 10% less so physically it looks almost the same (You'd need them side by side to notice) but same selling price. I understand costs go up, but you can bet they'd change the label and mention it on a package if they go the other way like :siren: "EXTRA VALUE 10% MORE!!! SAME LOW PRICE!!!" :siren: but silent going the other way.

Also, before anyone shits on them, pringles are awesome and I'll cut anyone who says otherwise.

All the Ice cream brands have done this on at least one occasion. It is pretty annoying.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Liquid Communism posted:

no such thing as job security anymore.


Ayyyupp.

90% of why we haven't bought a house (and how much house you can buy in Indiana for $100K would make you sick) is that we don't know that we're staying here.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


slidebite posted:

I know it's been happening since, like, forever, but I'm getting annoyed with companies lowering the weight/volume of product more and more while keeping prices the same and making no note on the package for the consumer to notice.

Latest catch: Pringles. Historically 160 gram can, now 148 grams. 10% less so physically it looks almost the same (You'd need them side by side to notice) but same selling price. I understand costs go up, but you can bet they'd change the label and mention it on a package if they go the other way like :siren: "EXTRA VALUE 10% MORE!!! SAME LOW PRICE!!!" :siren: but silent going the other way.

Also, before anyone shits on them, pringles are awesome and I'll cut anyone who says otherwise.

the Canadian market is so hosed in terms of quantity and quality of the stuff in the same boxes these days. every time i replace something in the pantry, it's ever so slightly smaller.

It seems everybody wants to keep their product at $3 or $4, and it's turning everything into garbage. lipton green tea is still 24 bags, the tube is still the same size, but you can stick your thumb down between the bags and the container now, and you basically need 2 to get anything beyond yellow water.

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008

Rhyno posted:

Ayyyupp.

90% of why we haven't bought a house (and how much house you can buy in Indiana for $100K would make you sick) is that we don't know that we're staying here.

I thought you were moving to Ohio at some point.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

mariooncrack posted:

I thought you were moving to Ohio at some point.

Or North Carolina. Or central Indiana. Wherever he job takes her really. But we're here for the time being. And my job may be lovely retail but it's the very best type of retail one could work (comic book store) so I'm not in any real hurry to move on yet.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

The Locator posted:

All the Ice cream brands have done this on at least one occasion. It is pretty annoying.
Tuna cans! :argh:

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

The Locator posted:

All the Ice cream brands have done this on at least one occasion. It is pretty annoying.

Ben and Jerry's hasn't, but they go out of their way to advertise on the cartons that it's "still a pint" since everyone else has. Also they cost more than everyone else so there's that too.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
Houses are good if you know for a fact that you will be somewhere for a decade or more, but I'm not sure that most people can say that these days. Chicago's losing people at an alarming rate, so I won't even bother looking here long term. The jobs are kind of here for now, but I wouldn't bet on it staying that way

The only draw of this city is great food, great beer, and great hospitals. Pretty much everything else is kinda lovely at best

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008

The Door Frame posted:

Houses are good if you know for a fact that you will be somewhere for a decade or more, but I'm not sure that most people can say that these days. Chicago's losing people at an alarming rate, so I won't even bother looking here long term. The jobs are kind of here for now, but I wouldn't bet on it staying that way

The only draw of this city is great food, great beer, and great hospitals. Pretty much everything else is kinda lovely at best

Any reason people are leaving so quickly? Gang violence?

Mr-Spain
Aug 27, 2003

Bullshit... you can be mine.
Does anyone have a corporate carfax or autocheck account? I just want to see if my honda went to a good home :(

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

mariooncrack posted:

Any reason people are leaving so quickly? Gang violence?

That's a large part of it. My entire extended family has slowly moved away from the city over the last decade due to violence and crime. I mean poo poo, many of the natives have embraced the "Chiraq" nickname.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

KakerMix posted:

Looking at things as raw dollar amounts in asset/liability terms always weirds me out. Living is a depreciating asset, food is a waste and sleep loses me money. A house isn't an 'asset' and you don't get as much money back when you seek it but what about the actual living that's done in the meantime? What is the dollar amount when you derive satisfaction and enjoyment out of painting a wall whatever color you want whenever you want? Planting a tree just because? Those sort of freedoms have a very real worth that can't be put on a spreadsheet much like your favorite shoes aren't actually worth anything outside of this nebulous human aspect of worth.
Truly the easiest way to save money is to go to sleep and never wake up.

Agreed. I'm happy owning and living in a house, and that's worth more to me than being miserable renting an apartment to "save money".

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Who wants to convince me buying a rental property is a bad idea and instead, I should buy 10 acres in the middle of BFE.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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the spyder posted:

Who wants to convince me buying a rental property is a bad idea and instead, I should buy 10 acres in the middle of BFE.

Where at?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

the spyder posted:

Who wants to convince me buying a rental property is a bad idea and instead, I should buy 10 acres in the middle of BFE.

You have to rent to human beings and human beings are, by and large, jack asses.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

mariooncrack posted:

Any reason people are leaving so quickly? Gang violence?

We have a poo poo school system that can't stay funded for an entire school year, mediocre public transport when it's working, bad highways, no parking, and infamous corruption. Mix that with our relatively high taxes, it forces anyone with the means to leave out of the city itself. Hell, even I'm on the western border of the city, because even moving the ~1 mile east into the city would make our home too expensive to realistically live in, and it would be a much worse neighborhood with bars on every window and door

Gang violence is gang violence, but crime is pretty bad in general. The murders make the news, but there are so many robberies

E: I remembered that Chicago has some of the highest taxes in the nation, but nothing ever gets funded

The Door Frame fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Mar 6, 2017

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


slidebite posted:

Also, before anyone shits on them, pringles are awesome and I'll cut anyone who says otherwise.

Reformed potato mush. Garbage.

ephphatha
Dec 18, 2009




Is Torque Pro still the recommended Android OBDII app? I ordered a cheap chinese EM327 transceiver on a whim and it seems to work fine, tested it with Torque Lite and I got seemingly accurate output of the sensors I bothered looking at. I've got $13 in google fun bucks saved up if there's another app that's considered the new hotness.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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nm posted:

You have to rent to human beings and human beings are, by and large, jack asses.

Yeah and for some people it's hard, but you have to treat being a landlord like a job, and the tenants are NOT your friends. Sounds obvious but for some people it isn't. You can't take everything they do personally. If you own the property and care about it this can affect you.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Ephphatha posted:

Is Torque Pro still the recommended Android OBDII app? I ordered a cheap chinese EM327 transceiver on a whim and it seems to work fine, tested it with Torque Lite and I got seemingly accurate output of the sensors I bothered looking at. I've got $13 in google fun bucks saved up if there's another app that's considered the new hotness.

I like dash commander more. Better interface.

ephphatha
Dec 18, 2009




Cop Porn Popper posted:

I like dash commander more. Better interface.

DashCommand? Looks nice apart from the absurd permissions requirements (contacts, identity?). Probably gonna give that a miss unless they update it for on-demand permissions.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
Going to sell my car to Carvana tomorrow, everything has been super smooth so far so we'll see what the actual sale is like. There isn't many options available if you have a newer car and you want to sell it outright without trading it in to a new car and there is no way in hell I'm going to go down the road of private party selling for something in the mid 20k range.
Since I own it outright it works out to me have been making around 250 bucks a month payment since we got in in June 2013. Not bad at all I think, and I've enjoyed the car very much while we've had it.

But like I was told earlier, now that I have a ~~**LEXUS**~~ the VW just feels worse in every respect. Even though it's a 95 vs. a 2013 my wife and I can feel the purpose-built difference between the SC300 and the Golf R. You drive them both back to back and you just know that the Lexus was meant to be what it is while the Golf R gives away that it's a cheap car with bits stuck on. This stupid Lexus ruined the Golf R for me and my wife.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


KakerMix posted:

Going to sell my car to Carvana tomorrow, everything has been super smooth so far so we'll see what the actual sale is like. There isn't many options available if you have a newer car and you want to sell it outright without trading it in to a new car and there is no way in hell I'm going to go down the road of private party selling for something in the mid 20k range.

I'm think Carmax will do the same thing, buy it not requiring you to buy one of theirs. Might be worth looking at to see how the offers compare if you haven't already.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Did a welding class on Saturday, never welded nothin' before and I only managed to stick the TIG tungsten to the welding table twice! :buddy:

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KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

NitroSpazzz posted:

I'm think Carmax will do the same thing, buy it not requiring you to buy one of theirs. Might be worth looking at to see how the offers compare if you haven't already.

They do but Carvana comes to me where as I have to go to Carmax. Carvana is also only in the south eastern US so it's much more focused in that regard.

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