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Tato posted:After the latest Clone Conspiracy I'm tickled to see how Ben can be redeemed into a heroic character, as this series has painted him as a thoroughly repugnant piece of poo poo who nearly destroyed the world, and this is coming from someone who really really liked Ben as the Scarlet Spider. Pretty blah chapter but I did enjoy seeing Otto flip his lid that anyone would dare insult any part of Anna Maria. Didn't Otto literally try to kill the world by way of deadly solar radiation before body-snatching his way into superherodom?
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I am willing to give Scarlet Spider a shot but holy poo poo Ben is just not remotely an interesting character. Even his evil isn't interesting.
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Jan 19, 2017 08:08
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KaosMachina posted:Didn't Otto literally try to kill the world by way of deadly solar radiation before body-snatching his way into superherodom? Even the point of the body snatching hero was that he is a brutal bastard who wasn't a hero at all.
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Jan 19, 2017 08:10
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Maybe you don't read the main Marvel thread but:Lobok posted:Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo WHAT
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Feb 14, 2017 18:03
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So what was Jackal's master plan? Just "make everyone Carrion zombies because I love death"?
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Feb 15, 2017 20:28
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I don't think Jackal has had a real plan outside his original appearance. Even then it kind of unravels,
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Feb 15, 2017 22:50
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The conspiracy was awful, even though we all knew ahead of time it would be. That's impressive.
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Feb 16, 2017 02:42
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Yeah, Clone Conspiracy managed to underperform expectations. Which, given how low expectations were to begin with, is pretty impressive. It was at least pretty-looking.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:00
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Yeah, Clone Conspiracy managed to underperform expectations. Which, given how low expectations were to begin with, is pretty impressive. Actual sales are pretty bad too.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:41
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What a complete and total non-ending. I'm not sure how they think anyone who read this would be anticipating and/or buy Scarlet Spider.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:37
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`spose if Brock has to be back as Venom we might as well get some good art out of it (for one issue...?) https://twitter.com/TraddMoore/status/832310679017291776
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Feb 16, 2017 22:12
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Lobok posted:`spose if Brock has to be back as Venom we might as well get some good art out of it (for one issue...?) Is he going to be back as Venom permanently or is this just a history of Venom leading to Brock, but not Brock in the symbiote, coming back? Cause that's definitely a "history of venom" splash thing there.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:46
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Vince MechMahon posted:Is he going to be back as Venom permanently or is this just a history of Venom leading to Brock, but not Brock in the symbiote, coming back? Cause that's definitely a "history of venom" splash thing there. It's a history of both of them, which is fitting if they're ending back up together. We don't see the beginning with Peter's time with the symbiote but we see other people the symbiote has been with, and its spawn, and we see Brock's time both before the symbiote and after they had separated.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:55
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Did they ever reveal how Flash lost Venom? I mean, there have been times in the past where I wondered why the classic Venom/Lethal Protector formula was given up on, but I really enjoyed Flash's run. It feels like he had more books as Venom than Brock did and they had a better critical reception throughout. Probably the best Venom run come to think of it.
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Feb 17, 2017 16:04
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Remender's run is easily the best run of Venom, without any real competition. I mean there were a few pretty good to great comics featuring Eddie Brock as Venom, but they were few and far between. Flash Venom was loving great under Remender. Not so great under Bunn, but probably better than like, 3/4 of Eddie's stuff.
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Feb 17, 2017 16:06
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Chickenwalker posted:Did they ever reveal how Flash lost Venom? He put the symbiote up for auction in Millar's run on Marvel Knights Spider-Man.
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Rhyno posted:He put the symbiote up for auction in Millar's run on Marvel Knights Spider-Man. You mean Brock for that, right, not Flash?
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Feb 17, 2017 19:52
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Yeah he misread. I don't think they've revealed where Flash is yet. I do think Brock getting the symbiote back in its current state of being reformed would be interesting. Unlike the murderer who currently has it, Brock would probably listen to reason but still need guidance. It would be a cool new take on the Lethal Protector stuff.
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Feb 17, 2017 19:58
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah he misread. I don't think they've revealed where Flash is yet. I do think Brock getting the symbiote back in its current state of being reformed would be interesting. Unlike the murderer who currently has it, Brock would probably listen to reason but still need guidance. It would be a cool new take on the Lethal Protector stuff. The voice in your head telling you not to just murder that mugger could be a fun twist.
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I just finished Clone Conspiracy. God drat it was AWFUL. It didn't resolve anything and it supposedly killed Doc Ock after bringing him back. Only thing I enjoyed was the art.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah he misread. I don't think they've revealed where Flash is yet. I do think Brock getting the symbiote back in its current state of being reformed would be interesting. Unlike the murderer who currently has it, Brock would probably listen to reason but still need guidance. It would be a cool new take on the Lethal Protector stuff. It looks like they're undoing all the reformation the symbiote went through in this bridge series.
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JohnnyCanuck posted:It looks like they're undoing all the reformation the symbiote went through in this bridge series. And doing so in the worst way possible. I admit I haven't read as much of Venom's stuff as I probably would have liked to over the years, but coming from Flash to this new series has been absolutely awful. It really reads like some edgy 13 year old's fanfiction, and not in a funny way.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah he misread. I don't think they've revealed where Flash is yet. I do think Brock getting the symbiote back in its current state of being reformed would be interesting. Unlike the murderer who currently has it, Brock would probably listen to reason but still need guidance. It would be a cool new take on the Lethal Protector stuff. I just wanted to make sure Marvel wasn't doing a reference to Brock doing the same thing, you never know. Shinjobi posted:And doing so in the worst way possible. Yeah, i gave up on it after issue 2. It's so frigging bad.
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RandallODim posted:The voice in your head telling you not to just murder that mugger could be a fun twist. They did that with Deathlok. Clone Conspiracy had a crap ending, but the art was good, and I enjoyed seeing all the old faces again. The signal possibly wrecking the webware is going to be the convenient way to make Peter broke again probably.
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Open Marriage Night posted:They did that with Deathlok. A rich CEO running a company which has a horrifying disaster that injures or kills a lot of people NOT escaping with a golden parachute is somehow more implausible than a man who sticks to walls and is psychic.
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Oops.
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pubic works project posted:I just finished Clone Conspiracy. God drat it was AWFUL. It didn't resolve anything and it supposedly killed Doc Ock after bringing him back. Having not read the comic since the bodysnatcher stuff that last part at least would make me happy. Not because I wanted to see doc get his comeuppance but because I think he is just a boring and terrible legacy character that should have been left by the sidelines years ago.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah he misread. I don't think they've revealed where Flash is yet. I do think Brock getting the symbiote back in its current state of being reformed would be interesting. Unlike the murderer who currently has it, Brock would probably listen to reason but still need guidance. It would be a cool new take on the Lethal Protector stuff. pubic works project posted:I just finished Clone Conspiracy. God drat it was AWFUL. It didn't resolve anything and it supposedly killed Doc Ock after bringing him back. evilmiera posted:Having not read the comic since the bodysnatcher stuff that last part at least would make me happy. Not because I wanted to see doc get his comeuppance but because I think he is just a boring and terrible legacy character that should have been left by the sidelines years ago.
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Well, pretty close! Otto gets the uber-clone body and Ben sticks around in his current body that could potentially destabilize again. Also after "killing" Miles Warren he vows to put the clone poo poo behind him and start living his OWN life...which puts him exactly where he was the first time he left town to forge his own life, only this time after nearly murdering the entire world and feeling no remorse for it.
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Tato posted:Well, pretty close! Otto gets the uber-clone body and Ben sticks around in his current body that could potentially destabilize again. Also after "killing" Miles Warren he vows to put the clone poo poo behind him and start living his OWN life...which puts him exactly where he was the first time he left town to forge his own life, only this time after nearly murdering the entire world and feeling no remorse for it. Still not feeling like new Ben is anything but budget Kaine which is really goddamn sad.
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Yeah, in the aftermath of Clone Conspiracy, I think Chris Yost's Clone Saga sequel idea would have been far superior: https://twitter.com/yost/status/832395486527000577
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yeah, in the aftermath of Clone Conspiracy, I think Chris Yost's Clone Saga sequel idea would have been far superior: How much would you bet that it would feature the "Mr. Sinister Six" at some point?
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Lobok posted:How much would you bet that it would feature the "Mr. Sinister Six" at some point? I think you mean 'Sinister's Six'.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:07
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Too bad, I was looking forward to Otto and Ben sharing a body so I could push "Bento."
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think you mean 'Sinister's Six'. OK but only if Spider-Man points out that it's really awkward enunciating the two consecutive S's.
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Feb 24, 2017 00:27
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Sinister's Six already happened in Spiderman and the XMen.
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Pureauthor posted:Sinister's Six already happened in Spiderman and the XMen. Yeah, but this story would have theoretically predated that one, since it was supposed to be a Scarlet Spider story.
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Feb 24, 2017 08:08
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I think reading this is the lowest I've felt about Spidey since Guggenheim was pushing BND issues with Freak.
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^burtle posted:I think reading this is the lowest I've felt about Spidey since Guggenheim was pushing BND issues with Freak. I mean, I always secretly feared my posting was garbage, but I didn't realise it was that bad! 
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I just noticed from the CBR preview that Hannah Blumenreich has a story in this week's issue of ASM, which is pretty rad. She's got a bunch of fun Spider-Man fan comics on her Tumblr. http://hannahblumenreich.tumblr.com/post/144836701928/dj-cue-the-jock-jams-please
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