Frosted Flake posted:I read that as Quran-loving-tee. Seems accurate. Quran-loving-tee a brown people quarantine. Trump is a fat kid pretending to be dictator and enough people are just playing along because welp nothing matters.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Of course not. That's a crime of passion. An honor killing is done because it is your religious (muslim) duty. Honour killings are very different from classic spousal murder in every fundamental way. The comparison is slightly tasteless and not very helpful for anyone.
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Svartvit posted:Honour killings are very different from classic spousal murder in every fundamental way. The comparison is slightly tasteless and not very helpful for anyone. Explain why killing a cheating spouse isn't a type of honor killing. You say it's different. I can't see the difference.
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Spousal murder is apparently somehow 'lesser' if you're white. That's what I'm getting out of this.
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LingcodKilla posted:Explain why killing a cheating spouse isn't a type of honor killing. Crime of passion vs premeditated and calculated murder as a statement of religious faith. If you walk in on your wife boinking your neighbor and shoot them both, that's #1. If you hear a rumor or even catch them, then tie her up in the basement, buy supplies, and burn her alive the next day because she dishonored your family and god/Allah, that's #2. Godholio fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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LingcodKilla posted:Explain why killing a cheating spouse isn't a type of honor killing. I am curious too, and would like to hear his reasoning.
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LingcodKilla posted:Explain why killing a cheating spouse isn't a type of honor killing. the mens rea is completely different
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:
juppe's conviction is widely seen as him taking the fall for then president chirac, which probably helps.
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LingcodKilla posted:Explain why killing a cheating spouse isn't a type of honor killing. Honour killings involve a decision by a family council in which the elder decides that a girl or woman of the family has brought dishonour to the family or clan. Someone in the close family, a brother, a father or an uncle, is tasked with carrying out the murder on their behalf. Those who work against honour killings in the West have desperately tried to highlight the very fundamental difference, mainly because law enforement, much like you, have interpreted it as if it's the same kind of family abuse that we're used to, when it in fact is a family or clan working as a criminal organization placing a hit on the victim.
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The Iron Rose posted:the mens rea is completely different Edit. Nm. The above poster explained his view. Svartvit posted:Honour killings involve a decision by a family council in which the elder decides that a girl or woman of the family has brought dishonour to the family or clan. Someone in the close family, a brother, a father or an uncle, is tasked with carrying out the murder on their behalf. Those who work against honour killings in the West have desperately tried to highlight the very fundamental difference, mainly because law enforement, much like you, have interpreted it as if it's the same kind of family abuse that we're used to, when it in fact is a family or clan working as a criminal organization placing a hit on the victim. I'm not a lawyer, but can't this kind of behavior already be prosecuted using RICO or conspiracy laws that are already in place? Chichevache fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Yeah, but then you don't get to target the mussulman.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 21:56 |
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I don't know if we want to open the door to a Trump administration using RICO to go after Muslim families.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 21:57 |
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I think RICO statutes only apply if there's money involved. I'm not a lawyer though so
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Missionary Positron posted:Continuing the theme of Europe and defense: I cannot stop laughing.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 21:58 |
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Like, someone please travel back in time and tell ol' Otto that his beloved German people would sleep calmly knowing a French arsenal of weapons of mass destruction will keep them safe in the 21st century.
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gently caress, don't kill baby Hitler with that time machine, let him grow up and tell him, too
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Handsome Ralph posted:I think RICO statutes only apply if there's money involved. I'm not a lawyer though so I thought they could throw that poo poo at practically anything involving a group of people, but my knowledge of RICO is all half-remembered poo poo from that Vin Diesel movie where he's his own lawyer. Duzzy Funlop posted:gently caress, don't kill baby Hitler with that time machine, let him grow up and tell him, too I would also be interested in seeing his reaction to the Israel-Palestine situation. Chichevache fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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German overengineering applied to H-bombs is just what I need at this point in time. That and them all playing Enrichment Centrifuge Simulator 2018 in their spare time.
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Svartvit posted:Honour killings involve a decision by a family council in which the elder decides that a girl or woman of the family has brought dishonour to the family or clan. Someone in the close family, a brother, a father or an uncle, is tasked with carrying out the murder on their behalf. Those who work against honour killings in the West have desperately tried to highlight the very fundamental difference, mainly because law enforement, much like you, have interpreted it as if it's the same kind of family abuse that we're used to, when it in fact is a family or clan working as a criminal organization placing a hit on the victim. This is a good response. So it's basically the same but with an added conspiracy which is already addressed in our laws.
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P-Mack posted:German overengineering applied to H-bombs is just what I need at this point in time. I would play that game. The autistic german in me demands it.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:32 |
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Conspiracy to commit murder isn't already a crime?
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:33 |
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I don't know why you people are acting surprised that a group would be pushing for additional laws for their special-snowflake concern despite current laws already covering the topic. It's not like we're talking about gun laws and murder.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:38 |
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LingcodKilla posted:This is a good response. Understanding the nature of the crime is essential in order for crime prevention and law enforcement to work properly, or sometimes at all. There are many horror stories. Just saying it's conspiracy to commit murder and then taking the day off is improper on so many levels. Brown-shirts have a tendency to propagandize honour killings but that doesn't make it OK to throw victims under the bus.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:43 |
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Trouble in Congress on the Obamacare repeal, as four GOP senators revolt against the house bill due to it loving up medicaid. https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/838868233776168962
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:51 |
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Didn't the Rs give Hillary a rash of poo poo for doing the health care thing behind closed doors? What's the diff now?
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Burt Sexual posted:Didn't the Rs give Hillary a rash of poo poo for doing the health care thing behind closed doors? What's the diff now? The Republicans are the ones doing it.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:57 |
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Rs have been hypocritical to a degree I don't think we've ever quite witnessed before.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The Republicans are the ones doing it. you need to be assured that this isnt a smartass answer it's the exact reason
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 23:03 |
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Never expect a genuine showing of ethics, morality, or otherwise redeeming human features from congressional republicans. Ever.
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i would say that intelligence agencies leaking poo poo directly to the press is bad. but, if congress wont act on it in the normal fashion(i assume that someone provides a report to the house/senate commitees and they decide what to do), it seems necessary. so....how are our intel agencies supposed to handle this sort of alleged wrongdoing? what is the process?
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Politicians and their supporters are both pretty bad at it, but Republicans the last decade have been taking it to a new loving level it's insane. I wish my brain worked that way so nothing I do is wrong and everything my 'opponents' do is the worst thing ever
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Office Pig posted:Never expect a genuine showing of ethics, morality, or otherwise redeeming human features from congressional republicans. Ever.
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Wouldn't the best thing for Trump's wonderful, tremendous, bigly legacy be single-payer? He should do that.
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Ben Carson was quoted today saying slaves were "Immigrants who came to America seeking new opportunities while working for less" Jesus gently caress
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Office Pig posted:Never expect a genuine showing of ethics, morality, or otherwise redeeming human features from congressional republicans. Ever. Ironically, this is the one thing currently saving the country: The GOP representatives are overwhelmingly results of the Tea Party wave, which means they've spent their entire careers saying no to everything. None of them know how to legislate beyond walking away from anything that isn't exactly what they want.
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I'm well past outrage fatigue at this point. I could wake up tomorrow to a bunch of news alerts that Trump hired a combination prostitute/assassin to piss on someone to death but the house oversight committee was more interested in hillary being CC'ed on the emails and it wouldn't get more than a cursory shrug from me.
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LingcodKilla posted:Obviously. Leviticus 21:9 posted:And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 20:9 posted:For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. The closest I can find in the Quran is [quote"Sura 18, v. 74-80"] So they [Moses and The Servant of God, later identified as al-Khidhr] set out, until when they met a boy, al-Khidhr killed him. [Moses] said, "Have you killed a pure soul for other than [having killed] a soul? You have certainly done a deplorable thing." ... [Al-Khidhr] said, "This is parting between me and you. I will inform you of the interpretation of that about which you could not have patience. ... And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. [/quote] Handsome Ralph posted:I think RICO statutes only apply if there's money involved. I'm not a lawyer though so
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CommieGIR posted:Ben Carson was quoted today saying slaves were "Immigrants who came to America seeking new opportunities while working for less" Uncle Carson's Cabin
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:i would say that intelligence agencies leaking poo poo directly to the press is bad. but, if congress wont act on it in the normal fashion(i assume that someone provides a report to the house/senate commitees and they decide what to do), it seems necessary. Depends, you really want the three letter agencies to start disapearing members of the executive? That's how you get coups. I mean there's nothing that intel agencies can do at this point besides continually leak worse and worse poo poo so that public outcry finally forces the congress to do the needful and take trump out behind the gym. The Judiciary has to bring charges up and good loving luck with Sessions as the Attorney General or the Congress has to do it and good luck with republicans in power and Trump still having a high approval rating among their constituents. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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quote:Trump University Lawsuits May Not Be Closed After All I mean it's nothing but one can hope that Trump gets further humiliated
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