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Is there any chance the sane parts of congress (lol) just plan to humor him without ever actually conducting an investigation
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pathetic little tramp posted:So let's say the average premium is 300$, right? Okay, now I lose my job and can't afford new health insurance until 64 days later when I get my new job. I now have to pay 300$ a month PLUS a 90$ penalty every month for one year. The penalty is equal to 90x12 = 1080 dollars. A 1080 dollar penalty for being uninsured. The penalty under ACA was 695$. On average, this is a penalty increase of almost 200% and it goes directly to insurance companies. quoting again because lmfao
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Shageletic posted:For reconciliation to happen, a budget resolution needs to be passed by April 15th. If that doesn't happen, they need to wait until the next session next year, or have 60 people in the Congress pass it.  Al! posted:the iron wind blew through congress, twisting the already injured ACA into some kind of useless writhing horror 
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by ending this nightmare he means life on this earth trump the merciful
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It's worse for family plans which are 800$ a month on average, a 30% penalty for one year is equal to almost 3000 dollars in extra costs. And all this is assuming premiums never ever go up again, which, lol.
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HAHA BOY YOU SAID IT TIME TO END THIS NIGHT MARE  trump is gonna be so fkn lit if it doesnt go thru lmfao
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Grem posted:Just let me be clear here. Without the mandate, but with pre-existing conditions, insurance companies are going to have to crank up rates by hundreds of percentage, yea? Yeah basically if you have health insurance through your employer then you will be considered quite a catch to marry!
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Office Pig posted:How hard will Trump vacate his bowels if the senate strikes this thing down i'll never forget how less than two weeks before being sworn in as president, he said that the senate would pass obamacare repeal "probably sometime next week" (i.e., mid-january) and the replacement would pass "very quickly or simultaneously, very shortly thereafter" because the dumb galoot never bothered to find out how legislative calendars work http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/trumps-latest-obamacare-remarks-contain-layers-of-madness.html
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eonwe posted:lol There's a good reason why they tried to keep their lovely plan under wraps for a long time.
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pathetic little tramp posted:It's worse for family plans which are 800$ a month on average, a 30% penalty for one year is equal to almost 3000 dollars in extra costs. cant wait for not one person in the newsmedia to point this out because it involves math and thinking too hard
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2018 Health Purge
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How is there still a penalty if there's no mandate?
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'ReadTheBill.GOP' llamafao
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mormonpartyboat posted:is he bragging about taking snacks from pappa president? or a literal baby? He's gonna show signs of polonium poisoning soon
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Grem posted:How is there still a penalty if there's no mandate? it's a double-if situation IF you lose healthcare for more than 63 days, and IF you then get it after that, you pay a penalty no one said you HAD to do either, buddy 
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Spun Dog posted:He's gonna show signs of polonium poisoning soon can't be any worse than what they did to eric
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I uh... I don't think this will pass. Same as Trump's dumbfuck budget. BUT WHAT DO I KNOW I THOUGHT HILLARY WOULD WIN I'm starting to wish I put more pills into my mouth all those years ago
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So I'm assuming Trump is endorsing the House plan? Is there any real expectation that the Senate (or some sufficient number of rogue Senate Republicans) are willing to take the heat of shooting it down, especially if this is their only chance to get it passed and Trump and the House will almost certainly dump all the blame for failing to replace Obamacare on them if they do?
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Mariana Horchata posted:'ReadTheBill.GOP' ReadTheBill.GOP.cx
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Grem posted:How is there still a penalty if there's no mandate? gently caress you, thats why
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Grem posted:Just let me be clear here. Without the mandate, but with pre-existing conditions, insurance companies are going to have to crank up rates by hundreds of percentage, yea? quote:In fact, the new legislation looks a lot like earlier versions of the measure that Politico, The Wall Street Journal, and other publications have described. Studies of those bills suggested they would result in cheaper premiums for younger and healthier people, and new tax breaks for more affluent consumers ¯ but also higher out-of-pocket costs, higher premiums for older and sicker people, and ultimately many more uninsured. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-republicans-obamacare-repeal_us_58bdf877e4b09ab537d63e57?fdstwkxjjum1da38fr Also the health care those kids get in 2018 is a bottle of water (from Flint) and a hearty good luck (or more likely gently caress off).
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Dolash posted:So I'm assuming Trump is endorsing the House plan? Is there any real expectation that the Senate (or some sufficient number of rogue Senate Republicans) are willing to take the heat of shooting it down, especially if this is their only chance to get it passed and Trump and the House will almost certainly dump all the blame for failing to replace Obamacare on them if they do? Mulvaney was a real big part in this, so i'm assuming the admin will put at least some weight behind it.
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mormonpartyboat posted:is he bragging about taking snacks from pappa president? or a literal baby? im the staffer who took the photo whos now contemplating taking the wrong way onto the Beltway (lol gl w/ that)
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Shugojin posted:it's a double-if situation Is this real life? Holy gently caress.
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why is the bill dead? im not going to readthebill.gop
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Pay pay pay buy buy buy die die die
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ShutteredIn posted:This bill is dead in the water and Trump is going to have such a funny meltdown about it Time to finally end this nightmare.
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ShutteredIn posted:This bill is dead in the water and Trump is going to have such a funny meltdown about it hopefully more than that, the meltdown routine is getting p old tbh
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ShutteredIn posted:This bill is dead in the water and Trump is going to have such a funny meltdown about it Unless it's not dead in the water in which case ?!?!??!?!??!!!???????????????????
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Tormp(54): time to finally end this nightmare
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Office Pig posted:Unless it's not dead in the water in which case ?!?!??!?!??!!!??????????????????? Death is certain.
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Shageletic posted:For reconciliation to happen, a budget resolution needs to be passed by April 15th. If that doesn't happen, they need to wait until the next session next year, or have 60 people in the Congress pass it. Just a reminder there's a massive protest planned for April 15th (by the same people who did the Women's March) If ACA gets repealed then oh boyyyy
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Shageletic posted:Repubs are so eager to take away health insurance they're going to spike the market for health insurers, insuring the whole thing fails in a couple of years or so. you're swell shaggy
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