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Julio Cruz posted:And if he has to go on the DL after one of them I bet the first thing out of your mouth won't be "ah well, just part of the game". I was reading that the other way, as in once Rizzo gets hit half the Cubs fans here will be out for blood. Popete posted:If you can get hit by a 20 MPH pitch than you absolutely deserve it. Is it possible to throw a 20mph ball that makes it to the plate? I guess it probably is, but I kind of imagine little leaguers throwing at 30-40 or so.
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Julio Cruz posted:So it's not OK but because it happens we should all be OK with it? I'm not following your logic here. What don't you understand.. When I watching a game i'm not rooting for a pitcher to toss one at a batter that fucks with him but if it happens it happens. I'm not going to be outraged about it that's for sure. Julio Cruz posted:And if he has to go on the DL after one of them I bet the first thing out of your mouth won't be "ah well, just part of the game". If he was launching his bat a la Bautista then yeah I would be, but he's not that type of player so once again idk what were talking about here. He gets hit because he wants to.
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Now if a rookie takes your best pitch and blasts it into orbit then well the rookie deserves to bat flip.
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In society, there are rules. If you hit a ball with a bat in the game where you are supposed to hit a ball with a bat, you will be beaned. That is a rule. If a batter steps out while I am pitching and looks at me, I will shoot that man in the mouth. This is how men build a life. If I am in my stirrups and I ask you what time it is and if you say Noon and then later I find that it is in fact Dusk, I will kill you with a Long Sword. Rules, consequences, baseball, safety, shark terror: these things I believe.
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Grittybeard posted:Is it possible to throw a 20mph ball that makes it to the plate? I guess it probably is, but I kind of imagine little leaguers throwing at 30-40 or so. Underhand toss the ball 20 feet in the air.
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The internet's got you covered, and, no.
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Mustached Demon posted:Now if a rookie takes your best pitch and blasts it into orbit then well the rookie deserves to bat flip. Once again, I agree.
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a batter taking Arrieta deep should be able to celebrate equal to the level that Pedro Strop celebrates when he strikes somebody out
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Dr. Remulak posted:Once again, I agree. Ahh ok, so if you're a veteran (5+ years) or a rookie its ok. If you're a 2nd year player then you deserve to get plunked. Gotcha, that makes more sense.
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Grittybeard posted:I was reading that the other way, as in once Rizzo gets hit half the Cubs fans here will be out for blood. I'm sure they will be, and Mr "hitting batters is cool and good" here will be right along with them. Dr. Remulak posted:What don't you understand.. When I watching a game i'm not rooting for a pitcher to toss one at a batter that fucks with him but if it happens it happens. I'm not going to be outraged about it that's for sure. I don't understand why you're OK with a pitcher potentially taking a player out of the game for weeks at a time, and I expect that your level of being OK with it will change drastically when it's one of your team on the receiving end. Also using Bautista as "that type of player"  just come out and say it, we all know what you mean
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Julio Cruz posted:Also using Bautista as "that type of player" I'm using the most recently "famous" bat flip as an example, one which also spurred some heated emotions between players... What are you suggesting?
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Rand alPaul posted:Pitchers are big loving babies. Yeah this. Outside of the dangerous aspect of it this is the dumbest part. Pitchers are big loving babies about it and it's not fun to watch a professional athlete throw a tantrum over it. A bat flip is quite possibly one of the tamest celebrations in all of pro sports right now, calm the gently caress down.
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Hand Knit posted:Is this discussion going anywhere good? In less than a month there will be baseball, so until then it's this or BSOHL chat. I guess we could talk about Israel of all teams being a near lock for the next round in the WBC.
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Dr. Remulak posted:If he was launching his bat a la Bautista then yeah I would be, but he's not that type of player so once again idk what were talking about here. He gets hit because he wants to.
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bawfuls posted:What is wrong with a big bat flip "a la Bautista" exactly? Nothing. I've never said I think there's anything wrong with bat flipping, talking trash, or celebrating whatsoever.
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Grittybeard posted:In less than a month there will be baseball, so until then it's this or BSOHL chat. The baseball as bloodsport stuff as fine, I just want to head off where the discussion might end up after someone has uttered the phrase "that sort of player."
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I'm fine with beaning as long as you can do this to the pitcher.
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Dr. Remulak posted:Nothing. I've never said I think there's anything wrong with bat flipping, talking trash, or celebrating whatsoever. So even though a player hasn't done anything wrong you're still OK with him getting thrown at? You're really not making any sense here.
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Dr. Remulak posted:Nothing. I've never said I think there's anything wrong with bat flipping, talking trash, or celebrating whatsoever.
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Bob James posted:I'm fine with beaning as long as you can do this to the pitcher. It's always the catchers who pay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2uGROwr-rY
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Julio Cruz posted:So even though a player hasn't done anything wrong you're still OK with him getting thrown at? You're really not making any sense here. Yes. bawfuls posted:Then why are you defending violent retaliation for them? We're going in a circle here bud
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Dr. Remulak posted:We're going in a circle here bud
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Grittybeard posted:Is it possible to throw a 20mph ball that makes it to the plate? I guess it probably is, but I kind of imagine little leaguers throwing at 30-40 or so. When I was 10 I went to a Kids Day game at Shea, and they let us throw pitches, and I was deeply disappointed to learn that I had a 35-mph fastball. Nowadays, I'd love to see a 20-mph Eephus pitch or some wacky poo poo.
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Pancakes posted:Really surprised Tatis isn't on that list. 2 grand slams in one inning seems less likely to be repeated than a 20-pitch AB. Awhile back and also to distract from "greenhorns shouldn't disrespect pitchers" chat, but
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Strike that fucker out if you don't like him. Make him hit a lazy grounder back to you. poo poo, steal a hit away with some sweet pitcher glove work.
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Why are y'all responding to the return of McGibblets beaning players is always bad and the game would be better overall if everyone celebrated their achievements and could be made to look like idiots if they gently caress up after celebrating
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Make HBPs an automatic 2 bases like a ground rule double. That would cut down on that bullshit.
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I know we shouldn't be hitting each other, or committing assault on the baseball field but maybe I'm old-school enough to think that Arietta's response was actually kind of progressive, as ballplayers go. Somewhere right now Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan are talking over a pouch of Red Man about how pitchers are weak these days.
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Dr. Remulak posted:Because he'd toss one at a rookie for bat flipping on him? Are you guys that soft? You really think it's totally cool to try to cause someone potentially serous injury, or at the very last hurt them, because they hit one of your pitches and celebrated a bit? The fact that the hitter knows he might get hit is irrelevant and definitely doesn't excuse the behavior. Whatever, athletes are somehow allowed to assault people with no real consequences, because money and entertainment. Yay!
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Meanwhile, Thor likes batflips. quote:“And in terms of [Bryce] Harper saying he wants to make baseball more fun again, in terms of more emotion, the [Jose] Bautista moment, I’m pretty sure the guy — when that happened — had probably blacked out at the moment,” Syndergaard said, referring to the Blue Jays slugger’s legendary bat flip in the 2015 postseason. “Just sheer enjoyment and excitement and just being in the moment. The bat flip, I have no problem with it. I can’t imagine how much emotion is going through him that he probably might not have even realized what he was doing. My big thing is having respect for the game... I wouldn’t say he was disrespecting the game at all,” Syndergaard said. “I see it as he was having fun out there. He was trying as hard as he possibly can to do what he wants for the team. I don’t see that as disrespect at all. I see that as pure emotion.”
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Sydin posted:Meanwhile, Thor likes batflips. Thor is cool and good.
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I had the Nats game on at lunch and man, Turner is awesome. Seems like he can pretty much steal at will? He might not be quite as fast as Billy Hamilton, but it takes him like one step to go from zero to top speed.
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I get that Moneyball rightfully pointed out that stealing was bad unless you were REALLY good at it, but the lack of steals in baseball makes it a little sad. The Mariners got Jarrod Dyson and Jean Segura now, so we might actually start seeing steals.
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beejay posted:Oh boy a new Cubs poster who is a poo poo head I can't speak for the rest of the SAS Cubs fans, but Arrieta needs to nut up and deal with it. I've always hated the "well he hasn't earned that strike yet," as if the strike zone is different for a rookie compared to a 10-year vet. If it's a strike it's a strike and if not, it's not no matter who's throwing it. Same thing for bat flips. If a vet can do it a rookie can. Grow up, Jake, and go be overpaid on some other team next year. gently caress you.
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N: Sydin posted:Meanwhile, Thor likes batflips. V: Inspector_666 posted:Thor is cool and good. Apparently he's starting tomorrow during Tim Tebow's debut, which...  . I just want this stupid Tebow experiment to be over so we can go back to talking about real baseball players again. Conforto and Bruce are vying for right field, and Gsellman, Lugo, and Wheeler are battling it out for the fifth spot in the rotation, and both of those things are way more exciting than this publicity stunt.Of course, if Tebow turns out to actually be worth a drat, I'll change my tune, but I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
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GoatSeeGuy posted:I know we shouldn't be hitting each other, or committing assault on the baseball field but maybe I'm old-school enough to think that Arietta's response was actually kind of progressive There's still a ton of pervasive macho bullshit going on, though. Like, why should rookies be treated differently? If they do their job well, they do their job well. Even Bouton called it out as being moronic in Ball Four, and that was almost fifty years ago.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I wanna see a batter steal 2nd, 3rd, and home on 3 straight pitches after eating a retaliation pitch Funnily enough, Jake Arrieta stole second in the 2015 WC Game immediately after being intentionally beaned.
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stop trying to change baseball from what it should be: a remorseless murdersport https://medium.com/@byctom/stop-trying-to-change-baseball-from-what-it-should-be-a-remorseless-murdersport-a7f2912f702b#.sf5uk5ss7
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GeneX posted:Why are y'all responding to the return of McGibblets I think Yasiel Puig emphatically batflipping dingers is as important to baseball as him accidentally batflipping fly outs to the warning track
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