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fishmech posted:Well first you'd need all those countries to change their official English (and Spanish, and Hindi, and whatever) names. The Czechs can't even get people to call it Czechia instead of the Czech Republic after like a year, so good luck with that happening and getting respected. Those are all the same religion, though. There’s a difference between state religion and state church. The U.S. has neither.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:38
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Temaukel posted:
South America is always the funniest part of that for me. They're quite obviously Western, but they just happen to be slightly poor. A Spaniard has far more in common culturally with an Argentinian that a Finnish person.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:41
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If Papua New Guinea is Western, then there's no reason Latin America should be anything other than Western.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:45
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Blut posted:South America is always the funniest part of that for me. They're quite obviously Western, but they just happen to be slightly poor. Thanks God we made up "Latin America" to make sure everyone knows they aren't part of real America.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:48
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cebrail posted:Thanks God we made up "Latin America" to make sure everyone knows they aren't part of real America. that was actually the french icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 00:55
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Byzantine posted:Greece: not part of Western Civilization
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Mar 8, 2017 01:00
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I just learned that last year, and now I'm not sure Albania is a nation on earth so much as it's an exclave of some planet orbiting Proxima Centauri. Doesn't help that the first Albanian monarch was kind of a weirdo. Also, whoever suggested The Great War: I second this. root beer fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 01:01
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They do have to make room for Paupa New Guinea, noted center of western civilization.
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Mar 8, 2017 01:08
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fishmech posted:
Why is one of the categories just called protestant while all the other flavours of Protestantism have their own category?
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Mar 8, 2017 01:09
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FreudianSlippers posted:Why is one of the categories just called protestant while all the other flavours of Protestantism have their own category? Those stats are based on self-identification, and some people don't identify as a specific Protestant denomination, just "Protestant."
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Mar 8, 2017 01:13
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FreudianSlippers posted:Why is one of the categories just called protestant while all the other flavours of Protestantism have their own category? Because the people who answered just protestant don't really know what sect their local megachurch is part of, or don't even go to church at all but consider themselves vaguely christian and definitely not Catholic Platystemon posted:Those are all the same religion, though. I'm pretty sure "No Religion" isn't part of Christianity.
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Mar 8, 2017 01:40
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fishmech posted:I'm pretty sure "No Religion" isn't part of Christianity. Which has a plurality in a few states if you count Christian denominations separately, but not if they are counted collectively as the same religion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_(state)#Religion
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Mar 8, 2017 01:45
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Blut posted:South America is always the funniest part of that for me. They're quite obviously Western, but they just happen to be slightly poor. Fixed the map for you. 
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Mar 8, 2017 01:52
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Kennel posted:Fixed the map for you. Needs Italy.
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Mar 8, 2017 01:53
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Platystemon posted:Which has a plurality in a few states if you count Christian denominations separately, but not if they are counted collectively as the same religion. You should be counting any denomination separately whose progenitors killed at least 500,000 other Europeans over a religious war between the 95 theses and 1900.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:09
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Most of Western Hemisphere: Not part of Western Civilization.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:10
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To be fair, the Religious Right as a movement has blurred a lot of previously very strong sectarian political lines. If nothing else, it caused a schism in Catholics. Now you've got some Old Rite strongholds (At this point basically Boston and Chicago -- the other Catholic Urban centers have pretty much all fallen) but plenty of Religious Right movements in every loving suburb everywhere, where "Catholic" is basically just a more ritualized form of Protestant Prosperity Gospel. Along with some retreatist hypermutations that also vote R, such as Opus Dei and other ultra-conservative (in terms of the Church if not necessarily politics) movements. There is a very strong correlation between how often you attend religious services and how you vote. The more services you attend in a year, the more likely you are to vote Republican. African-Americans are a notable exception to this rule for historical reasons. As are Muslims. Holy poo poo Muslims. Even if you included Nation of Islam, American Muslims were majority Republican. Without NoI, it was over 90%. Then 9/11 happened and nowadays Muslim support for Republicans is in the single digits. Latin@s are murkier (I'm open to data!) because they are a population that is difficult to meaningfully poll.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:24
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fishmech posted:You should be counting any denomination separately whose progenitors killed at least 500,000 other Europeans over a religious war between the 95 theses and 1900. Given the fuzzy feelings between even Evangelical American Protestants and Catholics nowadays, I don't see why though. Conservatives of both groups consider secularists "the enemy," not each other. Edit: As the above poster mentions, the division is largely between conservative and more liberal adherants of both Catholics and Protestant groups. IMO religion is getting increasingly politicized in the US, but it cuts across sectarian lines. Sucrose fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 02:29
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fishmech posted:You should be counting any denomination separately whose progenitors killed at least 500,000 other Europeans over a religious war between the 95 theses and 1900. That’s like saying that the Irish can’t be white because “No Irish Need Apply” used to be a thing.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:30
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Senor Dog posted:Hindus: Nepal, Ceylon, Guyana? Map dumb, but there is a huge Hindu minority in Sri Lanka. You may have heard of one of their advocacy groups.  Edit: heck let's go all the way and call Buddhism a Hindu sect
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Mar 8, 2017 02:31
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Platystemon posted:That’s like saying that the Irish can’t be white because “No Irish Need Apply” used to be a thing. Nah, not so long as European state religions remain specific sects for reasons dating back to idiots who never bathed or used forks dying in fields over it. If a language is a dialect with an army, than a religion is a cult that used to have an army. 
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Mar 8, 2017 02:35
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Map dumb, but there is a huge Hindu minority in Sri Lanka. I know so many Hindus who argue that. None of them ever go to temple and all of them ended up having romantic marriages to non-Indian people. But "Buddhism is a sect of Hinduism" is very important to them. Actual Hindus don't give a gently caress and don't believe that for various reasons both theological and political.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:50
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Whats going on with Guyana and Surime in South American? Also not sure if Haiti should be in the Latin American group.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:45
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Going to derail from a couple pages back, but can anyone explain the whole thing about being angry at Jews for killing Christ to me? Even if we accept the premise... wasn't Jesus' entire purpose to be martyred to redeem mankind? Him being killed so he can be resurrected is the point of the religion. If Jewish people had him killed, then didn't they play a key role in bringing about salvation? It doesn't make any sense. I guess that's religion.txt but I am really curious if there's an explanation why that became an attack on Jews.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:47
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Communist Zombie posted:Whats going on with Guyana and Surime in South American? Also not sure if Haiti should be in the Latin American group. lots and lots of indian immigrants
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Mar 8, 2017 03:51
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Grand Fromage posted:Going to derail from a couple pages back, but can anyone explain the whole thing about being angry at Jews for killing Christ to me? Even if we accept the premise... wasn't Jesus' entire purpose to be martyred to redeem mankind? Him being killed so he can be resurrected is the point of the religion. If Jewish people had him killed, then didn't they play a key role in bringing about salvation? It doesn't make any sense. I guess that's religion.txt but I am really curious if there's an explanation why that became an attack on Jews. They did it because Jesus was a heretic and still won't accept him as their savior so gently caress them.
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Mar 8, 2017 04:11
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Can you imagine how awesome Jesus would be if Jesus hadn't been killed by the perfidious Jew? Like, we'd already be in Heaven or something.
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Mar 8, 2017 04:12
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Grand Fromage posted:Going to derail from a couple pages back, but can anyone explain the whole thing about being angry at Jews for killing Christ to me? Even if we accept the premise... wasn't Jesus' entire purpose to be martyred to redeem mankind? Him being killed so he can be resurrected is the point of the religion. If Jewish people had him killed, then didn't they play a key role in bringing about salvation? It doesn't make any sense. I guess that's religion.txt but I am really curious if there's an explanation why that became an attack on Jews. Jews are "the other" that is all
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Mar 8, 2017 04:17
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What syphilis was called before it was called syphilis
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Mar 8, 2017 05:01
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cebrail posted:Thanks God we made up "Latin America" to make sure everyone knows they aren't part of real America.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:15
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Pakled posted:What syphilis was called before it was called syphilis Also North Korea has no data lol
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Mar 8, 2017 06:46
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Pakled posted:What syphilis was called before it was called syphilis Pass-the-blame.png
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Mar 8, 2017 06:54
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fishmech posted:Well, which one is it?
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Mar 8, 2017 06:57
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Temaukel posted:
French Guyana: part "western", part "african". Guyana and Suriname: "hindu" and "african". Albania: purely "islamic". Also, Cyprus sank beneath the waves.
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Mar 8, 2017 07:18
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Kopijeger posted:French Guyana: part "western", part "african". Guyana and Suriname: "hindu" and "african". Albania: purely "islamic". Along with the Falklands, The Maldives, Svalbard, Bermuda, all of Oceania, and the proud island of St Helena Something tells me they hate islands
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Mar 8, 2017 07:28
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The only non-religious lakes are the (North American) Great Lakes and the Caspian Sea.
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Mar 8, 2017 07:29
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There was this pre-9/11 strain of American conservatism where supposedly all the various overly-religious people were going to come together and love politicians who only want tax cuts for the rich. Like devout Muslim immigrant doctors and churchgoing Hispanic blue collar construction workers were going to be gathered under this umbrella, and goofy inoffensive George W. Bush was going to be their avatar. Didn't work out.
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Mar 8, 2017 07:31
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Temaukel posted:
Has anyone pointed out Islamic civilisation Israel?
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fishmech posted:You should be counting any denomination separately whose progenitors killed at least 500,000 other Europeans over a religious war between the 95 theses and 1900. So, just Lutheran and Catholic on the map you posted. Maybe Methodism if you count it as part of a general Reformed tradition (even though they are Arminian), but I doubt they got a 500K kill count. Baptists and especially Mormons would have been burned at the stake by Catholics and magisterial Protestants alike in the sixteenth century.
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