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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
| Total: | 510 votes | ||
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jBrereton posted:You can always do better than "it's unfair". E: episode 41 of bleach is almost certainly part of a rescue arc. That's all that show really was
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Mar 9, 2017 00:50
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jBrereton posted:Has the 3 line whip already faded into memory for you lol Labour lords did not vote to block the bill, they voted for amendments.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:50
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Kokoro Wish posted:He did. It's not odd. It's waffly, unfocused bullshit that ignores the single newsworthy point that the Tories broke a manifesto pledge. Corbyn is poo poo.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:51
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Pissflaps posted:This is nuts. Labour ran a three line whip on the unamended bill. The Lords voted not to block the bill by 340 to 95, and yet you said they were the opposition. Pissflaps posted:The media won't do Corbyn's job for him. This is nuts. They are clearly doing it right now.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:54
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Kokoro Wish posted:He did.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:54
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Pissflaps posted:It's not odd. It's waffly, unfocused bullshit that ignores the single newsworthy point that the Tories broke a manifesto pledge. Corbyn is poo poo. Nice of you to parrot the media line, thus proving a point.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:54
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Namtab posted:I call a spade a spade You don't see the papers calling it "unfair" like narked teenagers. They address the specific points. A manifesto pledge has been broken and millions of self employed people are getting hosed.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:55
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That old man Jeremy Corbyn man too busy fiddling his taxes and spending all the money on tacky ornaments from Sinn Féin's online shop to be bothered to do his job, I oughtn't not to wonder, I shouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mar 9, 2017 00:55
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jabby posted:This is nuts. They are clearly doing it right now. You think they're turning labour into a plausible party of government? Get real.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:56
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crispix posted:That old man Jeremy Corbyn man too busy fiddling his taxes and spending all the money on tacky ornaments from Sinn Féin's online shop to be bothered to do his job, I oughtn't not to wonder, I shouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeremy Corbyn's gonna ring your da'
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Mar 9, 2017 00:56
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jBrereton posted:Adults' ears shut down when you call something "unfair". I'm a grown man and my ears do not shut down when I hear the word unfair, because my job is to combat unfairness and inequality Also when the budget came out and was being talked about I doubt corbs had the Tory manifesto to hand
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Mar 9, 2017 00:57
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Kokoro Wish posted:Nice of you to parrot the media line, thus proving a point. You just complained that the media aren't reporting what he said yet now you're saying that I'm 'parroting their line' on it? Stay consistent with your CDF horseshit please. Namtab posted:I'm a grown man Citation needed.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:58
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crispix posted:That old man Jeremy Corbyn man too busy fiddling his taxes and spending all the money on tacky ornaments from Sinn Féin's online shop to be bothered to do his job, I oughtn't not to wonder, I shouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really want to believe that Sinn Féin has a shop where you can buy genuine certificate of authenticity certified chunks of royal skull in a nice plastic presentation box.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:58
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I'm starting to think that flaps may just be really biased against corbs
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Mar 9, 2017 00:59
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Namtab posted:Also when the budget came out and was being talked about I doubt corbs had the Tory manifesto to hand
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Mar 9, 2017 00:59
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If my dad died and my mum wanted a last love thing I would be happy to let Jeremy Corbyn gently caress her. As long as he donated me some of his fiddled tax money.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:59
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jBrereton posted:They get sent it in advance! I don't believe you
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Mar 9, 2017 00:59
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Namtab posted:I'm starting to think that flaps may just be really biased against corbs I am biased against him. Because he's poo poo.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:00
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Pissflaps posted:You think they're turning labour into a plausible party of government? Get real. I think they're damaging the Tory party and Labour directly benefits from that. I agree Labour need to go hard on this budget, but their main goal will be to prolong the negative media attention. Nothing they could do right this second would intensify it. jBrereton posted:They get sent it in advance! Labour get sent the budget in advance? I'm not sure that's correct.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:00
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Pissflaps posted:
Why are you asking me to post ID? Seems a bit creepy imo.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:01
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Pissflaps posted:I am biased against him. Because he's poo poo.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:01
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Pissflaps posted:The media won't do Corbyn's job for him. Actually Rupert Murdoch is more than happy to specify rhetoric and policy for any political party if they'll let him.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:01
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You have to make the media put out a message you agree with. Stop letting the media put out a message you agree with.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:01
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Pissflaps posted:You just complained that the media aren't reporting what he said yet now you're saying that I'm 'parroting their line' on it? No, you're parroting the general media line they've used over the last year or so to downplay Corbyn, when they're just not outright blanking out any policy talk he does, and that oddly you also picked up over the last year or so. It makes you sound like one of those terrible political cartoons you see in the UK politoon thread.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:02
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jabby posted:I think they're damaging the Tory party and Labour directly benefits from that. Naive AF. jabby posted:Labour get sent the budget in advance? I'm not sure that's correct. They get sent a redacted version.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:02
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OwlFancier posted:I really want to believe that Sinn Féin has a shop where you can buy genuine certificate of authenticity certified chunks of royal skull in a nice plastic presentation box. They do have an online cyber-shop but they have taken down all the really tacky ornaments they used to sell on it.  It used to be like an extremely dark St Patrick's day stall.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:03
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Kokoro Wish posted:No, you're parroting the general media line they've used over the last year or so to downplay Corbyn, when they're just not outright blanking out any policy talk he does., and that oddly you also picked up over the last year or so. It makes you sound like one of those terrible political cartoons you see in the UK politoon thread. I'm not parroting the media line. My opinion of Corbyn is my own after watching a year and a half of him driving the Labour Party into the dirt while gibbering idiots gleefully cheer him on.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:03
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If I were a Tory I'd redact the bit where I break a manifesto commitment when I send it to my political enemies, if I choose to send it in the first place
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Mar 9, 2017 01:04
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Namtab posted:If I were a Tory I'd redact the bit where I break a manifesto commitment when I send it to my political enemies, if I choose to send it in the first place If I was a labour leader I'd make sure I knew the Tory party headline manifesto pledges and be briefed on when they were broken.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:05
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jabby posted:Labour get sent the budget in advance? I'm not sure that's correct.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:05
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Also flaps you have yet to explain why you're asking me for ID, and you never posted the recipe
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Mar 9, 2017 01:05
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Pissflaps posted:Naive AF. I'll bite. What do you think the media should be saying about the budget that would benefit Labour more, and what should Corbyn say to make them do that?
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Mar 9, 2017 01:05
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jabby posted:I'll bite. What do you think the media should be saying about the budget that would benefit Labour more, and what should Corbyn say to make them do that? Don't bother actually trying to make him engage in substantive policy or messaging talk. He's an empty centrist idiot. Just call a spade a spade and move on.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:08
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jabby posted:I'll bite. What do you think the media should be saying about the budget that would benefit Labour more, and what should Corbyn say to make them do that? The same thing but with big text saying "Labour do not like the budget"
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Mar 9, 2017 01:09
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Kokoro Wish posted:Don't bother actually trying to make him engage in substantive policy or messaging talk. He's an empty centrist idiot. Just call a spade a spade and move on. I'm not expecting an answer, just a demonstration that he doesn't have one. vv Bingo vv
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Mar 9, 2017 01:09
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jabby posted:I'll bite. What do you think the media should be saying about the budget that would benefit Labour more, and what should Corbyn say to make them do that? To assume that the Labour Party in its current state will automatically benefit from the media attacking the Tories on an issue that the labour leadership has ignored is naive. It's naive AF. Labour should have been pushing on the broken manifesto promise. I already said this hours ago.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:10
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Kokoro Wish posted:Don't bother actually trying to make him engage in substantive policy or messaging talk. He's an empty centrist idiot. Just call a spade a spade and move on. Says the guy whose opinions amount to 'whatever Corbyn said'.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:12
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jabby posted:I'll bite. What do you think the media should be saying about the budget that would benefit Labour more, and what should Corbyn say to make them do that? The Tories rightly getting eviscerated by the press for shafting working class tories like Most Builders does not make people wish that John Ashworth MP was health sec, it just puts the conservatives on the back foot, for one morning.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:13
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jBrereton posted:It's not about what the media is saying it's about what Labour is or isn't saying and how it's saying or not saying it. Unless you're advocating for Corbyn going out knocking on doors, any message Labour puts out has got to be picked up and reported by the media. So what do you want them to be saying that would be better than what they're currently saying?
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Mar 9, 2017 01:16
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This budget is unfair, watch and share
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