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Point of order, previous post refers to "Jacobin" in a generic "left wing media" sense, not the internet magazine specifically.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:02
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Pelosi and Reid only look good because they're the few competent main dems compared to the rest of the party its like how people go "mccain doesn't seem too bad, he's willing to stand up to other republicans and stuff" when hes the dude who snuck in a rider selling off native american land to a wholly unrelated bill(in modern times, not during his teenage years of 1910)
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Mar 9, 2017 18:04
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Reid was the only person last cycle who actually did what you had to do to win and guess what he won
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Mar 9, 2017 18:11
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i'm the large portion of the american population deeply offended that she called america capitalist
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Mar 9, 2017 18:20
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logikv9 posted:i'm the large portion of the american population deeply offended that she called america capitalist I'm the realization that she was talking specifically about the Democrats, not the American population, and that it was in response to a question about whether the party was willing to move in a more left/populist direction.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:24
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GlyphGryph posted:I'm the realization that she was talking specifically about the Democrats, not the American population, and that it was in response to a question about whether the party was willing to move in a more left/populist direction. i'm the still large portion of the population who is horrified to find out that the democrats are capitalist
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Mar 9, 2017 18:25
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logikv9 posted:i'm the still large portion of the population who is horrified to find out that the democrats are capitalist Now that's a much better group of people to be than your last one since they really should be. Politicians are supposed to be principled public servants, not ambitious profiteers trying to accumulate capital. I'm glad we could meet in the middle.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:27
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a winning electoral strategy: full communism now
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Mar 9, 2017 18:28
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a even more winninger electoral strategy: full communism for some, christian theocracy for others
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Mar 9, 2017 18:28
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people like commie nedflanders though can suck it
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Mar 9, 2017 18:29
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Taxing the rich at a higher rate and universal healthcare: full communism now
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Mar 9, 2017 18:29
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Scent of Worf posted:Taxing the rich at a higher rate and universal healthcare: full communism now "Why would we want to limit the capitalists when we ARE the capitalists?"
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Mar 9, 2017 18:31
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zen death robot posted:The job I got from applying at greatagain.gov is working out great, many figgies and the cyber is top notch, the best!
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Mar 9, 2017 18:34
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if you think it's tone deaf to say the party is capitalist, you might yourself be the tone deaf one
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Mar 9, 2017 18:37
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logikv9 posted:a winning electoral strategy: full communism now Full communism everywhere.... whenever maybe or Full communism someplaces... somewhere maybe Now you gotta compromise twice before going to the table to save time arguing about the initial compromises. They'll see your compromises and your willingness to stand firm for the bill and demand a couple more compromises, as it's only reasonable. Cowing to the appearance of not seeming uncooperative you offer those compromises plus some more to make them happy and stop compromising. They demand more or they won't vote as you need their vote so you compromise some more. It's like an immune system that says sorry when a virus is having it's way with it's body, enough so to pre-compromise itself so the virus can get it's job done quicker of killing the host
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Mar 9, 2017 18:38
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Mar 9, 2017 18:39
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ThndrShk2k posted:2 compromises: sir this is a plea bargain
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Mar 9, 2017 18:40
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I'll have ya'll know that around here, revising and passing a heinous Republican bill is what we call Getting Things Done.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:44
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Concerned Citizen posted:if you think it's tone deaf to say the party is capitalist, you might yourself be the tone deaf one If you think it's not tone deaf to answer a question about whether the party would consider moving leftward, a question that did not mention capitalism, by starting with a statement of commitment to the party's inherently capitalistic nature, I don't think you know what "tone deaf" means.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:46
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logikv9 posted:sir this is a plea bargain
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Mar 9, 2017 18:47
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What's the sample group? Because I'm guessing that 40% of people who lack a positive image of capitalism are predominately Democrats, making the statement quite tone deaf. Especially since their are probably at least a few who might have a positive view of capitalism in general but also think that a political party being inherently capitalist might be less than great.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:48
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GlyphGryph posted:If you think it's not tone deaf to answer a question about whether the party would consider moving leftward by starting with a commitment to how the party is inherently capitalist, I don't think you know what "tone deaf" means. How is this such a difficult concept to understand. What is wrong with you people
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Mar 9, 2017 18:48
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Mar 9, 2017 18:49
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GlyphGryph posted:If you think it's not tone deaf to answer a question about whether the party would consider moving leftward by starting with a commitment to how the party is inherently capitalist, I don't think you know what "tone deaf" means. well, it is. the party is capitalist. every elected official of the democratic party is capitalist. she was trying to say the party was not going to wildly veer left, in a humorous way, which is why the comment was followed by laughter in the room. but she then continued to go on and talk about things the party should be doing to improve the lives of the working and middle classes. i mean i'm not gonna say pelosi is exactly our greatest spokesperson, she's not good at that. but this criticism is inane.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:49
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 no Big government option. no communism option either
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Mar 9, 2017 18:50
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buttigieg would approve
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Mar 9, 2017 18:50
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More like crapitalist
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Mar 9, 2017 18:50
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logikv9 posted:buttigieg would approve You really need to let that go, man. Let go of the butt.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:51
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You really need to let that go, man. Let go of the butt. logikv9 is actually nan whaley, still voting for buttigieg long after he dropped out
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Mar 9, 2017 18:52
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buttigeig! BUTTIGEIG!!
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Mar 9, 2017 18:54
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Actually I looked up the full Gallup poll and 32% of Republicans have a negative view of capitalism, and 13% have a positive view of socialism. If the Democrats could peel off even half those people they'd pretty much run the government, wouldn't they? Interesting stuff. (Almost 60% of Democrats have a positive view of socialism, and that number is much higher for those under 50)
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Mar 9, 2017 18:54
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^ dumb post
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Mar 9, 2017 18:55
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I think I preferred breakfast chat more what is the proper breakfast of the working class
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Mar 9, 2017 18:58
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GlyphGryph posted:Actually I looked up the full Gallup poll and 32% of Republicans have a negative view of capitalism, and 13% have a positive view of socialism. 10-15% of any poll give dumb gimmick answers. That's what PPP includes their comedy option in every poll.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:58
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Majorian posted:That remains to be seen. This is good, but she needs to do this a lot more often. the republicans haven't really given her much of a chance. this is their first attempt at legislation, two months in
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Mar 9, 2017 19:00
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UHD posted:I think I preferred breakfast chat more for a long time, it was a slice of toast and a cup of coffee as they were heading out the door to work. up until ed berneys (freud's nephew and considered by many to be the father of public relations) got people into bacon and eggs. further details
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Mar 9, 2017 19:05
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every twelve hours pelosi should introduce a bill that renames the republican party to the anti-america league someone else should add an amendment reclassifying ted cruz as a bridge troll just to see how many republicans sign on
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Mar 9, 2017 19:06
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UHD posted:every twelve hours  get on my level
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Mar 9, 2017 19:07
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Venuz Patrol posted:the republicans haven't really given her much of a chance. this is their first attempt at legislation, two months in Yeah, I know, I'm just saying - she'd dug herself into a bit of a hole over the past few months, with some pretty clueless rhetoric and a seeming reluctance to fight. I'm glad she's fighting now, and I hope she keeps fighting. Fighting like Ed Balls. 
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