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Discendo Vox posted:Am I forgetting something, or does the CIA focus 100% of its surveillance efforts abroad? Did I have an aneurysm? It's not that clear cut, especially when collecting on people who can come into the US.
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HootTheOwl posted:It's not that clear cut, especially when collecting on people who can come into the US. But the rhetoric is 98% "the CIA is spying on US citizens".
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Discendo Vox posted:But the rhetoric is 98% "the CIA is spying on US citizens". You see her hair color? She's obviously from the rupublik of cyperpunk!
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As a non-Citizen, they might be accidentally spying on my Citizen girlfriend when we bang whilst watching porn on our smart TV. And that is an outrage. Especially since I don't have a girlfriend.
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mandatory lesbian posted:there are a lot of acceptable times to wear a fedora, it's just a number of them involve being elderly Alright, I'll amend my statement to include those born in the 30s or 40s.
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Discendo Vox posted:Am I forgetting something, or does the CIA focus 100% of its surveillance efforts abroad? Did I have an aneurysm? The distinction is largely meaningless and impractical online.
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"So much for the tolerant left!"
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I always heard that the CIA's mandate was only to spy outside of the US but I was always was pretty sure that they just did whatever they wanted. They're the CIA after all.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I always heard that the CIA's mandate was only to spy outside of the US but I was always was pretty sure that they just did whatever they wanted. They're the CIA after all. I thought the CIA and FBI were being pushed around by the NSA that could do whatever it wanted in and outside the country by the Bush 2 years?
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Samurai Sanders posted:I always heard that the CIA's mandate was only to spy outside of the US but I was always was pretty sure that they just did whatever they wanted. They're the CIA after all. Crabtree posted:I thought the CIA and FBI were being pushed around by the NSA that could do whatever it wanted in and outside the country by the Bush 2 years? So, right, this is the confusion I'm talking about. The FBI does domestic surveillance. The NSA are the broad government dragnet electronic surveillance people. The CIA isn't known for doing any kind of domestic surveillance (in fact I don't think they're generally allowed to by law), and their cyber stuff is usually hyper-targeted.
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Discendo Vox posted:So, right, this is the confusion I'm talking about. The FBI does domestic surveillance. The NSA are the broad government dragnet electronic surveillance people. The CIA isn't known for doing any kind of domestic surveillance (in fact I don't think they're generally allowed to by law), and their cyber stuff is usually hyper-targeted.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Right, so when a CIA target leaves whatever other country they were in and comes to the US, I figured they just kept observing them regardless of what they told anyone about handing off to the FBI or whatever. I don't know what the legal procedure is or who does it in those cases- but it's not going to be illegal. At worst it'll be quasi-legal and well-documented like in the GWB years. IC agencies don't really "just do things" anymore. I suspect where it's not, say, consulate staff, they do in fact hand it off to the FBI, to avoid potential confusion or conflict. But the narrative coming out of the leak news story is "omg is the Government spying on me through my toilet?!"
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Discendo Vox posted:I don't know what the legal procedure is or who does it in those cases- but it's not going to be illegal. At worst it'll be quasi-legal and well-documented like in the GWB years. IC agencies don't really "just do things" anymore. I suspect where it's not, say, consulate staff, they do in fact hand it off to the FBI, to avoid potential confusion or conflict. But the narrative coming out of the leak news story is "omg is the Government spying on me through my toilet?!" The government is spying on you through your toilet only if your toilet is running Android.
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Bill Leak has died: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...4fbf-1489110169 Thank god I won't have to see this rear end in a top hat's hateful cartoons anymore
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first image I ran across: Bill Leak and Les Patterson at the launch of Leak's book "Trigger Warning" in Sydney on Wednesday night.Source:The Australian E: turns out the stains are intentional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Les_Patterson By popular demand fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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ah jeez i'm eating dude
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:first image I ran across: Yeah, Barry Humphries is a oval office too
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Bill Leak just died. http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/cartoonist-bill-leak-dead-after-suspected-heart-attack-20170310-guv8kj.html
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:first image I ran across: is it possible for two corpses to weekend at bernie's each other cause i think that's what we're looking at here
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Sardine Wit posted:Bill Leak just died. Wow twice?!
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DeathMuffin posted:Yeah, Barry Humphries is a oval office too
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FishBulb posted:Wow twice?! He died, and then someone had to stake him.
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Goodbye Bill you oval office, you will not be missed and the world is better without you.SomeMathGuy posted:He died, and then someone had to stake him.
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Sardine Wit posted:Bill Leak just died. Brother Entropy posted:is it possible for two corpses to weekend at bernie's each other I like to imagine that you didn't see the above post. 
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I'm sure his inability to ever stop shouting and crying about people rightfully calling him a racist had nothing to do with his heart attack. By which I mean I'm taking partial credit
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I am sorry I posted without refreshing. On the plus side I think in australian common law this means gillian triggs automatically wins and gets a prize and gets to go home.
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I will miss you Bill Leak, there will forever be a hole in my posts.
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So was Leak's last cartoon ever complaining about being called racist? Fitting.
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:I'm sure his inability to ever stop shouting and crying about people rightfully calling him a racist had nothing to do with his heart attack. So much for the tolerant left
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Lord Hydronium posted:So was Leak's last cartoon ever complaining about being called racist? Fitting. 
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Punchboy Boys. A fine school.
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beepsandboops posted:Bill Leak has died: And nothing of value was lost.
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beepsandboops posted:Bill Leak has died: im glad
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Xander77 posted:Posted an entry for Payne. He actually had more "snooty Obama + bumper sticker" cartoons than I thought he'd have (and I thought he'd have them in the mid-double digits). Let me know if there's anything important I missed - I'm thinking these can be linked in the OP or something, for anyone who wants to know what cartoonists are all about. Jesus. There has to be an "in-between" phase, right? Looking at these in sequence it would appear that he had a devastating stroke that affected both cognitive and motor function sometime around Obama's election.
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Sardine Wit posted:Bill Leak just died. Not to speak ill of the dead, but his constant hatred probably didn't help his heart. Requiescat in pace. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLmZNnMT0A
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