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The rampant use of "Hence why" and abuse of "as far as" in this country makes my blood boil. Along with "should of", "egg-cetera", "for all intensive purposes" and that other good poo poo.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:The rampant use of "Hence why" and abuse of "as far as" in this country makes my blood boil. Along with "should of", "egg-cetera", "for all intensive purposes" and that other good poo poo. https://twitter.com/asshatlogic/status/839385736919072769
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I just realized that Tom Cotton looks like a mix between Tom Green and Justin Long.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:The rampant use of "Hence why" and abuse of "as far as" in this country makes my blood boil. Along with "should of", "egg-cetera", "for all intensive purposes" and that other good poo poo. it would behoove you
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Reverand maynard posted:it would behoove you 
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Genocide Tendency posted:Defense attorney's pants catch fire during arson trial. Wouldn't throwing water on those batteries make things immediately and impressively worse?
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DoktorLoken posted:http://www.businessinsider.com/nude-photo-marine-corps-pentagon-scandal-2017-3 From the original article: quote:The photo sharing began less than a month after the first Marine infantry unit was assigned women Jan. 5. It underscores ongoing problems of sexual harassment within military ranks and could hurt recruitment of women. Officials within the Defense Department confirmed it also puts service members at risk for blackmail and jeopardizes national security.  good job debba dawgs, hooah. This poo poo is never going away BTW
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Mar 10, 2017 04:21
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Godholio posted:Wouldn't throwing water on those batteries make things immediately and impressively worse? Water is good for things that are burning and hot. I mean they're already ruined.
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Dead Reckoning posted:
However, thanks to amendments to UCMJ in the past few years, article 120C includes sharing of photos wearing underwear or less that you don't have consent to share or which were taken when the person had a reasonable expectation of privacy. DOD instructions mandate that commanders make an effort to ensure a servicemember's state of residence is aware if they are punished under UCMJ or via letter of reprimand. More and more states are adding such offenses to their "you are a sex criminal" lists.
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There are certain situations where you really don't want to dump water though and I'm pretty sure light metals are one of those
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Water is good for things that are burning and hot. I mean they're already ruined. Not lithium batteries, generally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNMfe20I_IE
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If its already failing catastrophically then what else are you going to do? In the absence of that water that failing battery would have likely done significantly more damage to that beaker/floor/ whatever. Its an electrical fire where you can't remove the ignition source or the fuel. Your only hope is to keep it contained until the fuel runs out afaik.
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Godholio posted:Not lithium batteries, generally. I like the part where the hand with no gloves or protective gear reaches in like "uh oh" when poo poo gets real, then recoils as he thinks better of it.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:If its already failing catastrophically then what else are you going to do? In the absence of that water that failing battery would have likely done significantly more damage to that beaker/floor/ whatever. Its an electrical fire where you can't remove the ignition source or the fuel. Your only hope is to keep it contained until the fuel runs out afaik. 2 Li + 2 H2O → 2 LiOH + H2 That hydrogen gas is a bit of a problem. (yes I know lithium battery chemistry is more complicated but thats still hydrogen gas thats burning)
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Kawasaki Nun posted:If its already failing catastrophically then what else are you going to do? In the absence of that water that failing battery would have likely done significantly more damage to that beaker/floor/ whatever. Its an electrical fire where you can't remove the ignition source or the fuel. Your only hope is to keep it contained until the fuel runs out afaik. The thing is, with a lithium fire like you see in these ecig batteries, water is fuel.
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Yup. https://youtu.be/jq-qngvz9N0
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Okay and the alternative is seemingly a much more rapid explosion minus a hydogen gas buildup that won't really be a serious concern as long as it doesn't reach above an 8% (iirc) atmospheric concentration. FAA says using a water fire extinguisher is a good idea for a lithium battery fire on a plane. Are there better alternatives? Yes. But when your pants are smoking you could do alot worse than throwing it in water. I get what you are saying but what was the preferable alternative? Seems like getting the battery out of the courthouse would be the ideal scenario, perhaps in some type of metal container. Beyond that though getting it to a water source in a bathroom doesn't seem like a terrible idea to me. Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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If videos showing water catching on fire don't convince you that it's a bad idea to use water, I honestly have no idea what will.
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Godholio posted:If videos showing water catching on fire don't convince you that it's a bad idea to use water, I honestly have no idea what will. You highlighting a more effective and expedient means of fighting that particular class of fire given the circumstances. Failing LiOH batteries are dangerous no matter what you do, and water is certainly not the worst fire fighting agent you could introduce to the situation. Maybe they should have flooded the courthouse with halon? Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Why on earth would planes have water and not dry powder? I mean Co2 in an enclosed space is not ideal but dry powder is an irritant at worst. Seriously though dude your best bet in this case is removing oxygen or any other fuels if you don't have nonwater extinguishers available.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:You highlighting a more effective and expedient means of fighting that particular class of fire given the circumstances. Failing LiOH batteries are dangerous no matter what you do, and water is certainly not the worst fire fighting agent you could introduce to the situation. What the gently caress dude now you're just being contrary for the sake of it. Ok so what is the worst agent then?
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Planes seriously use water extinguishers? I would have thought they'd use powder or foam given all of the electronic.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:You highlighting a more effective and expedient means of fighting that particular class of fire given the circumstances. Failing LiOH batteries are dangerous no matter what you do, and water is certainly not the worst fire fighting agent you could introduce to the situation. Take off the loving pants. Finish the statement in your JUICY boxers and drop your pen like a mic.
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Godholio posted:Take off the loving pants. Finish the statement in your JUICY boxers and drop your pen like a mic. Ah yes, the do nothing school of fire fighting. Surely a more effective approach. I'm not even being contrarian; there are multiple pages that suggest fighting LiOH fires with water due to the limited amount of lithium that will react with them, the capacity for water to dissipate heat and extinguish flame, and the potential for runaway reactions to lead to explosions. Removing oxygen from a courthouse environment is impractical, dangerous, and won't necessarily stop the exothermic reaction before it damages the structure of the building, providing a potential new source of oxygen to facilitate ignition. If the dude didn't see a C02 extinguisher on his way to the bathroom, and getting the battery out of the building wasn't an immediate or apparent option, then he did the right thing. Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Two Finger posted:What the gently caress dude now you're just being contrary for the sake of it. Ok so what is the worst agent then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4l56AfUTnQ
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Ah yes, the do nothing school of fire fighting. Surely a more effective approach. I'm not even being contrarian; there are multiple pages that suggest fighting LiOH fires with water due to the limited amount of lithium that will react with them, the capacity for water to dissipate heat and extinguish flame, and the potential for runaway reactions to lead to explosions. Removing oxygen from a courthouse environment is impractical, dangerous, and won't necessarily stop the exothermic reaction before it damages the structure of the building, providing a potential new source of oxygen to facilitate ignition. If the dude didn't see a C02 extinguisher on his way to the bathroom, and getting the battery out of the building wasn't an immediate or apparent option, then he did the right thing. Ah gently caress this I'm not starting a bullshit derail
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Current Events 3/17: battery fires and how to fight them
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Godholio posted:If videos showing water catching on fire don't convince you that it's a bad idea to use water, I honestly have no idea what will. Fighting a Fire Involving Lithium Batteries The technique for fighting a fire involving lithium batteries is the same, regardless if the battery is a disposable or rechargeable lithium battery or battery pack. • Relocate passengers away from the device. • Utilize a Halon, Halon replacement, or water fire extinguisher to prevent the spread of The fire to adjacent battery cells and materials. • Pour water, or other non-alcoholic liquid, from any available source over the cells Immediately after knockdown or extinguishment of the fire. Only water or other non-alcoholic liquid can provide sufficient cooling to prevent re-ignition and/or propagation of the fire to adjacent batteries. Water, though it may react with the tiny amount of lithium metal found in a disposable battery, is most effective at cooling remaining cells, stopping thermal runaway and preventing additional flare-ups. Significant cooling is needed to prevent the spread of fire to additional cells in a battery pack.
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What the gently caress is this airsoft-tier wannabe firefighter detail
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https://twitter.com/ForeignPolicy/status/839974583381950467
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Zeris posted:this airsoft-tier wannabe firefighter detail
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Whoa I gave an appropriate first response before everyone started poppin' off about poo poo they obviously don't know about. Water is good for putting out fires. I dunno why that's so difficult for some people, and kiwis, to comprehend.
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Oh thank god.
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You can put out a consumer size lithium battery fire with a large handheld water fire extinguisher. You can put out a laptop with a small water fire extinguisher. If you know what you're doing you can extinguish flaming pools of gasoline, contents fires, and significantly knock down structure fire in a room. Now enough with the derail. Edit: although I do recommend the blog Sand Won't Save You This Time Edit 2: my source on using water to put out laptop lithium battery fires was a training course where that's the training the fire department actually gave, and we watched a video of putting out a laptop battery fire with a water extinguisher. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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South Korea's president has been impeached.
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shyduck posted:South Korea's president has been impeached. https://nytimes.com/2017/03/09/world/asia/park-geun-hye-impeached-south-korea.amp.html
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shyduck posted:South Korea's president has been impeached. Bet her shaman didn't see THAT coming
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Two Finger posted:What the gently caress dude now you're just being contrary for the sake of it. Ok so what is the worst agent then? ClF₃ shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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The best quote quote:It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water — with which it reacts explosively. It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals — steel, copper, aluminum, etc. — because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminum keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes
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Bolow posted:The best quote this whole thread owns like gently caress https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3602006&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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