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Kilmers Elbow posted:I'm getting tired of hearing the caveat "But remember, pre-season testing times are notoriously unreliable!". Probably not, but then we already know which 3 teams will be at the sharp end, so it's hardly surprising. The amount of shameless sandbagging means we just don't see times representative of those we'll see at the Spanish GP. I really would love to see a lap at 10 10ths, but alas...
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Lap times ARE unreliable. Ferrari are setting fast laps while Vettel backs off down the straight. You can glean some information from a combination of lap times, stint lengths, total laps run, and reports from trackside, but just looking at the raw times alone is pointless.
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Theophany posted:Speaking of hot garbage, has there been any developments on a potential Alfa Romeo team being fielded in the wake of Manor's departure? Or is Marchionne content with having Haas as their bitchmade feeder team? Fiat is going back and forth between "lets see what someone will buy Alfa for" and "lets see if we can bring Alfa back!". They just released a 4 door coupe that wasn't a flaming pile of garbage, so there's hope for Alfa yet. Not sure if that means Alfa is worth something again, or if it means Fiat might take Alfa seriously.
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Schlesische posted:Fiat is going back and forth between "lets see what someone will buy Alfa for" and "lets see if we can bring Alfa back!". The Giulia Quadrofoglio is rad as hell!
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Kilmers Elbow posted:I'm getting tired of hearing the caveat "But remember, pre-season testing times are notoriously unreliable!". How many people do you reckon talked themselves out of sticking a bet on Button when he was like 60/1 and the Brawn started putting in mega lap times in preseason testing with that line of thinking? I did.
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I wonder if Autosport or any other outlets have been logging sector times. Would be interesting to stitch together the fastest sectors of each driver/team from the past fortnight and see what kind of pecking order can be established. Unless teams have already thought of this and decide on which sector they deliberately back off on.
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Mar 10, 2017 15:26
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Remember the time the TF108 was the fastest car in testing? Welp.
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Mar 10, 2017 15:28
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McLaren might be on the back row in Melbourne.
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I don't know if the Saubers are actually faster.
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Mar 10, 2017 15:41
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McLaren should be given a 30 grid spot penalty just for sucking so much poo poo in testing
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TurboDrizzle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSptDxIaAGk He actually doesn't seem terribly unlikable. He still looks like Lou Ferrigno Jr., but didn't seem like a complete tool there. Granted I only watched about 3 1/2 minutes of it. Here's my BOLD PREDICTION: McLaren are the ones sandbagging this year. They're causing intentional oil and electrical problems to stay under everyone's radar. Then when we hit quali in Melbourne, we'll see the true blistering pace of the world beating Honda powerplant in the MCL32.
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CratSock posted:Here's my BOLD PREDICTION: McLaren are the ones sandbagging this year Not really a prediction at all, that's what you do with oil leaks.
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Honda has looked absolutely awful in every series recently. I really don't care that McLaren is struggling but it's a PR nightmare for HMC.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:McLaren should be given a 30 grid spot penalty just for sucking so much poo poo in testing I love my McLaren boys, but this needs to happen.
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Khablam posted:RBR are going to be sandbagging so it's still a Frog WDC. I'd take that over a HAM WDC Baron Corbyn posted:How many people do you reckon talked themselves out of sticking a bet on Button when he was like 60/1 and the Brawn started putting in mega lap times in preseason testing with that line of thinking? I did. that makes at least 2 of us  Human Grand Prix posted:McLaren might be on the back row in Melbourne. might? might? Mclaren are going to be on the back row in Melbourne whilst everyone's lining up in China two weeks later
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Human Grand Prix posted:Honda has looked absolutely awful in every series recently. I really don't care that McLaren is struggling but it's a PR nightmare for HMC. I've got no love for Honda, especially after having to figure out their crank bolts are reverse threaded.
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Raikkonen's Ferrari has poo poo the bed. Hopefully their quick times aren't down to them squeezing the power unit too hard.
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Rather it break today than in Melbourne. Please don't Ferrari this Ferrari. This season needs to be good. Lmao McLaren is so hosed tho.
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Mar 10, 2017 16:31
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John Surtees has died. 
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Norns posted:Dude was in his 80s tho right? Yeah, was still doing the odd TV appearance though and think he was turning up to the Goodwood FOS each year.
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RIP.
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I think I'm right in saying that makes Sir Jackie the oldest living F1 champion now.
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Mar 10, 2017 16:59
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Surtees' amazing achievement of being world champion on two and four wheels is never going to be repeated. RIP to a pretty cool guy Turns out never winning the championship was the price Sterling Moss paid for immortality
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Theophany posted:I think I'm right in saying that makes Sir Jackie the oldest living F1 champion now. 5 oldest WDCs J Stewart 11 Jun 1939 M Andretti 28 Feb 1940 A Jones 2 Nov 1946 E Fittipaldi 12 Dec 1946 K Rosberg 6 Dec 1948
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Mar 10, 2017 17:15
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He was probably triggered when he saw the news that they renamed GP2 to F2.
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RIP a good lad.
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Tsaedje posted:Turns out never winning the championship was the price Sterling Moss paid for immortality This checks out cuz Are Bernard is still alive.
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Meanwhile the most recent BBC poll was "Which team have you got most excited about in F1 testing?", Ferrari got exactly half of the votes, but no prizes for guessing who came second. Turns out I've been using the American definition of "exciting" all this time because I'm not familiar with the British one.
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The drama of not knowing if the car will run or not is a form of excitement
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Theophany posted:John Surtees has died.  quote:Well," he said, "as your attorney I advise you to buy a motorcycle. How else can you cover a thing like this righteously?"
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Clearly Ferrari sacrificed Surtees to become competitive.
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Khablam posted:Clearly Ferrari sacrificed Surtees to become competitive. If they don't win at least 4 races this season The Old Man will probably strike Marchionne dead.
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In 1964 the world cheered as John Surtees lifted the F1 Championship trophy. Little did he realise that 53 years later he would be dead.
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Kilmers Elbow posted:In 1964 the world cheered as John Surtees lifted the F1 Championship trophy. Little did he realise that 53 years later he would be dead. Life is so fragile.
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Kilmers Elbow posted:In 1964 the world cheered as John Surtees lifted the F1 Championship trophy. Little did he realise that 53 years later he would be dead.
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