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Imagine paying $36 million guaranteed for Brocka new study bible! posted:It's loving laughable to assume that Dallas has any leverage in the situation. They think that Houston firing Brock into the sun was an indicator of despiration when the Texans made a dramatic improvement by doing so. I mean Dallas does have some leverage because obviously they can just keep Romo if they want I also have no doubt that the Brock trade was done in part to create cap room to sign Romo plus a FA RT, so not getting Romo at all would be a gas
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Mar 10, 2017 18:34
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Just pay Cook, gently caress. He was so important in opening up the offense. Like having Finley back. Now the Packers will need to draft a TE high instead of using that pick on positions they didn't already have answers at!
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a new study bible! posted:RG3 is going to fill the role of QB converted into a WR. Oh so RG3 is going to die on the field? Again?
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a new study bible! posted:Imagine Brock vs. Hack in a training camp competition. For as bad as Brock is this still sounds more like a training camp slaughter than a training camp competition. If the Jets somehow end up with Brock (or Cutler) I kinda think Christian Hackenberg might never play a down in a regular season NFL game.
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pubic works project posted:Oh so RG3 is going to die on the field? Again? Yeah but it's not gonna be with the Browns https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/840254670878756866
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If there's one thing that makes me think Cleveland's analytics driven approach isn't complete garbage it's that they aren't even considering starting Brock. That salary dump trade has seriously made the Browns my second favorite team.
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What happened to RGIII that made him go from seemingly good to terrible? Was the injury that bad and his scrambling was the only thing that made him good? I just don't quite get what happened to him, he did well his rookie season then it all seems to have just gone to poo poo but I never cared enough to inquire why.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:42
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I've heard his name but I feel like he isn't good. Am I right?
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evilweasel posted:What happened to RGIII that made him go from seemingly good to terrible? Was the injury that bad and his scrambling was the only thing that made him good? I just don't quite get what happened to him, he did well his rookie season then it all seems to have just gone to poo poo but I never cared enough to inquire why. *posts the image of literally five different guys wide open ending with RG3 eating a sack* No idea what happened to him tbh
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Browns need to keep all their picks for Darnold next year. Build the cockpit. We will have the ammo to move up, just gotta flip whoever gets #1 our first and 3 2's and he is all ours!
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https://twitter.com/CHICKatCSN/status/840254020514152450 lmao redskins
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Lazerbeam posted:I've heard his name but I feel like he isn't good. Am I right? He was pretty good before going to Jacksonville. I don't know if he was injured down there or what.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:If there's one thing that makes me think Cleveland's analytics driven approach isn't complete garbage it's that they aren't even considering starting Brock. I didn't realize this before looking it up--and it's based totally on stats and not how he looked on the field because I didn't watch the Browns much so take it with that caveat--but Cody Kessler in 8 starts compares at rate stats pretty well with Denver Brock, and was flat out much better than Houston Brock. He had like 600 less yards than Brock's Denver year so obviously the Browns weren't asking him to do much on his own, but he didn't gently caress up a whole lot with what they did ask him to do. The main thing is he took a ton of sacks, almost once every 10 dropbacks. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Cody Kessler is just the superior quarterback.
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Michael Corleone posted:Browns need to keep all their picks for Darnold next year. Build the cockpit. We will have the ammo to move up, just gotta flip whoever gets #1 our first and 3 2's and he is all ours! I know you guys have been making innovative trades lately but how are you going to flip your 1st rounder and three 2nds to yourself? Good, gently caress those guys.
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You late son
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evilweasel posted:What happened to RGIII that made him go from seemingly good to terrible? Was the injury that bad and his scrambling was the only thing that made him good? I just don't quite get what happened to him, he did well his rookie season then it all seems to have just gone to poo poo but I never cared enough to inquire why. He is bad at the things you need to be good at to be a passer instead of a guy who runs and throws easy routes
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Mar 10, 2017 18:55
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good. some grade a bullshit going down in washington.
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a new study bible! posted:It's loving laughable to assume that Dallas has any leverage in the situation. They think that Houston firing Brock into the sun was an indicator of despiration when the Texans made a dramatic improvement by doing so. The situation between Dallas, Denver and Houston is a little bit of a prisoner's dilemma. Denver and Houston benefit if both teams refuse to trade for Romo; he'll become a free agent and they won't have to sacrifice a pick. But if just one of the team caves the other is boned.
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Jordan Cameron is retiring. Edit: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/840257035379847169 Sorry Fiz
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SKULL.GIF posted:Just pay Cook, gently caress. He was so important in opening up the offense. Like having Finley back. Seems like they were apart on contract length
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Mar 10, 2017 18:57
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Apparently Ted Jansen's agreed $9M over three years with the Dolphins, which sounds just the ticket.
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pubic works project posted:Jordan Cameron is retiring. His best days were as a Brown. How bout that poo poo?
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Holy poo poo what a trainwreck
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Intruder posted:*posts the image of literally five different guys wide open ending with RG3 eating a sack* Before November 25, 2013 237 yards/gm. 1.36 TD/0.6 INT. 7.44 rush/gm, 6.24 YPC. 2 sacks/gm After November 25, 2013 181 yards/gm. 0.47 TD/0.65 INT, 5.24 rush/gm, 5.73 YPC, 4.14 sacks/gm November 25, 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LhXHQ91qME
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The situation between Dallas, Denver and Houston is a little bit of a prisoner's dilemma. Denver and Houston benefit if both teams refuse to trade for Romo; he'll become a free agent and they won't have to sacrifice a pick. But if just one of the team caves the other is boned. Both teams have publicly said they won't trade for Romo under any circumstance, but the fact that he hasn't been released yet tells me one or both are lying and negotiating behind the scenes There's also the question of whether Dallas can get a pick that's good enough to be worth not being able to spread the dead money over two years
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Grittybeard posted:I didn't realize this before looking it up--and it's based totally on stats and not how he looked on the field because I didn't watch the Browns much so take it with that caveat--but Cody Kessler in 8 starts compares at rate stats pretty well with Denver Brock, and was flat out much better than Houston Brock. Yep, plus depending on your appetite for risk it almost always makes sense to go with the younger QB with less starts than the one with demonstrably terrible results on a good team.
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Spoeank posted:Before November 25, 2013 Same thing derailed Matt Schaub's career tbh Relentlessboredomm posted:Yep, plus depending on your appetite for risk it almost always makes sense to go with the younger QB with less starts than the one with demonstrably terrible results on a good team. To be at least a little fair to Brock, the offensive line was a disaster
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Grittybeard posted:I didn't realize this before looking it up--and it's based totally on stats and not how he looked on the field because I didn't watch the Browns much so take it with that caveat--but Cody Kessler in 8 starts compares at rate stats pretty well with Denver Brock, and was flat out much better than Houston Brock. Kessler actually played pretty well to my eye test but he just kept getting hurt. He legitimately looked good in his starts.
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Honestly, we haven't had nearly enough discussion about the level of dysfunction in Washington: http://deadspin.com/some-questions-for-dan-snyder-1793145203 It's like they learned it from those clowns down the street, on Capitol Hill, in Congress!!
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evilweasel posted:What happened to RGIII that made him go from seemingly good to terrible? Was the injury that bad and his scrambling was the only thing that made him good? I just don't quite get what happened to him, he did well his rookie season then it all seems to have just gone to poo poo but I never cared enough to inquire why. Injuries piled up, initially Shanahan's fault for playing him when his knee was already injured. But I think in retrospect his lack of awareness makes him an extremely injury prone player who will probably never stay healthy. The offense RG3 was successful with his rookie season was not a traditional NFL passing attack. Shanahan's plan was to slowly turn him into more of a pocket passer as he mastered how to run a modern offense over a couple of years. However RG3's giant ego and his influence with Snyder got in the way. RG3 wanted to be a drop pack QB and he pulled strings with Snyder to make that happen against the wishes of Shanahan. So you end up with a player who has zero awareness dropping back in the pocket trying to make reads he can't actually do.
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fsif posted:Honestly, we haven't had nearly enough discussion about the level of dysfunction in Washington: http://deadspin.com/some-questions-for-dan-snyder-1793145203 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG15oP7q4fI
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evilweasel posted:What happened to RGIII that made him go from seemingly good to terrible? Was the injury that bad and his scrambling was the only thing that made him good? I just don't quite get what happened to him, he did well his rookie season then it all seems to have just gone to poo poo but I never cared enough to inquire why. His good season was due to running the Baylor playbook in Washington. Novelty of the scheme + Vick-like running numbers made him effective until he died in that playoff game. After that he half-assedly tried to learn to be a pocket passer and failed, and whenever he panicked and scrambled he ate needless kill-shots and got hurt, because he had whatever the opposite of a survival instinct is. Basically he had Cam Newton's running aggression and Tony Romo's bone density and was much stupider than either of them. e: 
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fsif posted:Honestly, we haven't had nearly enough discussion about the level of dysfunction in Washington: http://deadspin.com/some-questions-for-dan-snyder-1793145203 Everything in DC is broken from the metro to the feds to the roads. Why would the Redskins be exempt?
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