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he linked to the relevant part, but ponza is named after some kind of pizza thing in wisconsin which is a mess of ingredients, much like the deck is a mess of cards
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Cactrot posted:Is there an answer that doesn't involve an hour long YouTube video? Well my 30 seconds of googling suggests that one of the first successful decks with land destruction spells was called ponza and nerds stuck with it because why switch names.
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Cactrot posted:Is there an answer that doesn't involve an hour long YouTube video? It's apparently a food name deck
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MiddleEastBeast posted:lol I was going to ask about that, but I assumed it was some scapeshift variant with a boarded Baloth that I was unfamiliar with that plays ... Utopia sprawl? never heard of ponza before this, what a hilarious pile of like 4th rate garbage To be fair, the deck is better than it looks and actually top 16ed a GP recently. Still wouldn't call it a good deck though Cactrot posted:Why is it called ponza? It's called ponza because red LD decks in the 90s were called ponza. I don't remember exactly why, though
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Mar 10, 2017 20:30
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Elyv posted:E: also BVV appears to be playing noted good deck ponza This is what blows my mind. I've complained to my opponent once on MTGO, and that was a match of limited where I drew a total of 3 creatures in 2 games with an 18 creature deck. And that was just me saying "Well I guess I forgot to put creatures in my deck, haha" or something close to that.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:34
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Cactrot posted:Is there an answer that doesn't involve an hour long YouTube video? Jeez I even found the timestamp. It's apparently a reference to a pizza/taco place that sold "pizza/enchiladas that [were] called ponzas" because the deck itself was a clumsy mixture of cards (LD + red fatties + burn).
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I mean turn 2 Blood Moon is probably really depressing for a lot of decks but there are other ways to do that. I kinda want to build it since the only card I need is the Blood Moons but I have enough tier 2+ decks that I run on a regular basis 
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Rinkles posted:Jeez I even found the timestamp. It's apparently a reference to a pizza/taco place that sold "pizza/enchiladas that [were] called ponzas" because the deck itself was a clumsy mixture of cards (LD + red fatties + burn). Apparently my phone did not respect the timestamp and started from the beginning, thanks though.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:39
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BJPaskoff posted:I think I've told this story before. The saltiest opponent I ever had on MTGO was when I was playing in a free sealed league for judges. My pool sucked, but I had a Battle of Wits, so I said gently caress it, it's free, and played my entire pool with enough lands to pad it out. I hit the Battle of Wits turn five naturally both games of my first match. My opponent said something like, "Great, I lost to the guy who's going to go 1-2 drop." I'd laugh pretty hard at that loss because how often is that going to happen to you? Same for when I got milled at an Origins pre-release, it just never happens so might as well enjoy losing in an odd way.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:41
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suicidesteve posted:This is what blows my mind. Yeah, if I've ever "complained" online it's always been with extremely obvious self-deprecating-esque sarcasm like that. "Man I thought I remembered to pack a few islands!" after finally drawing an island with a grip of blue spells on turn 8, or something. It's all about humility; if you can't laugh at variance biting you in the rear end once in a while, you need to take about 300 steps back and re-evaluate your life priorities.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:44
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smokyprogg posted:Ran a turbo fog list at FNM a couple weeks back, and was told by one of the Spikier players that it's bad etiquette to play a deck that slow and it could get me bumped for "intentionally wasting time." Turbo Fog is fine. I think it only gets annoying to play against when the person playing it turns it into a mill deck that only mills cards by making the opponent draw for turn. Play all the mass removal and fog effects you want, but lead up to something.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:54
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Win condition: elixir of immortality
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Mar 10, 2017 21:06
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gwrtheyrn posted:Win condition: elixir of immortality At that point, I recommend expressing your hatred of Magic players by standing on the table and urinating on their cards and other acts of vandalism and violence. Because I know that's how I feel.
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Mar 10, 2017 21:18
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Star Man posted:At that point, I recommend expressing your hatred of Magic players by standing on the table and urinating on their cards and other acts of vandalism and violence. Because I know that's how I feel. 
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Mar 10, 2017 21:24
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Star Man posted:Turbo Fog is fine. don't listen to this guy because this style of deck owns and so does tilting your opponent
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Mar 10, 2017 21:28
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80s James Hetfield posted:don't listen to this guy because this style of deck owns and so does tilting your opponent I already play the unfun combo of Chalice of the Void and Blood Moon. I love torture, but I got a long list of people to torture and don't got all day.
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It's great when someone doesn't know what you're playing and they're on the GR Pummeler deck or something super aggro-like and they get so confident on T3 or T4 when they can kill you but you drop a fog after they waste like 4-5 cards on pumping the creature. One guy at my LGS gets all huffy and puffy and is like "I basically won, if you didn't have that card you'd be dead" and then you throw back at him how if he didn't have the cards he had then you wouldn't have died and they go through all kind of mental gymnastics how you're lucky to be alive and their style of play was slighted because you prevented them from doing X by doing Y
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Mar 10, 2017 21:31
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80s James Hetfield posted:It's great when someone doesn't know what you're playing and they're on the GR Pummeler deck or something super aggro-like and they get so confident on T3 or T4 when they can kill you but you drop a fog after they waste like 4-5 cards on pumping the creature. tell him if he hadn't been playing magic in the first place he wouldn't have lost like a little bitch
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Mar 10, 2017 21:33
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80s James Hetfield posted:One guy at my LGS gets all huffy and puffy and is like "I basically won, if you didn't have that card you'd be dead" I always just respond "yeah, deck construction is an important factor in winning games."
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I, too, enjoy the philosophizing over magic cards. That's why I enjoy playing draw-go control, so I can have a conversation that isn't about magic while playing. It's the most (only) fun part about playing Miracles.MiddleEastBeast posted:tell him if he hadn't been playing magic in the first place he wouldn't have lost like a little bitch 
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Mar 10, 2017 21:36
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gwrtheyrn posted:Win condition: elixir of immortality The nephalia drownyard deck was some of the most miserable magic I can remember. That mirror had to be an all time worst. Has there ever been a genuinely sweet mill deck that wasn't terrible?
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Ban Magic players. Life is better that way, trust me on this.
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Miracles is fun because not letting your opponent do anything when they still think they're able to is the best form of magic outside vintage doomsday
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Star Man posted:Turbo Fog is fine. What if it's the howling mine font of mythos package where you lose because you had to draw 8 for turn?
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80s James Hetfield posted:don't listen to this guy because this style of deck owns and so does tilting your opponent Speaking on tier 2+ decks in Modern, are you still playing Tutelage Turbofog? I remembered the other day that I still have that thing built, and then immediately remembered why I never actually run it.
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Marketing New Brain posted:Has there ever been a genuinely sweet mill deck that wasn't terrible? do storm decks that kill with brain freeze count?
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Ive said it a million times and ill say it again....the most fun magic deck of all time is UW Sphinx-Elixir without aetherling or elspeth
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Mar 10, 2017 21:45
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The Sexual Shiite posted:What if it's the howling mine font of mythos package where you lose because you had to draw 8 for turn? Seems good. I meant that "mill by draw step" statement as one card at a time.
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Mar 10, 2017 21:49
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C-Euro posted:Speaking on tier 2+ decks in Modern, are you still playing Tutelage Turbofog? I remembered the other day that I still have that thing built, and then immediately remembered why I never actually run it. No, I haven't actually played Modern in a long time, probably last June. In my modern meta alot of people play T1 lists and that deck gets owned so hard by Chalice on 1.
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Madmarker posted:Ive said it a million times and ill say it again....the most fun magic deck of all time is UW Sphinx-Elixir without aetherling or elspeth The deck Floch won the Pro Tour with is my favorite deck ever and I have never enjoyed playing anything that much besides that and then UR Ensoul is a close second
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Elyv posted:do storm decks that kill with brain freeze count? same but high tide and pointing blue sun's zenith at the opponent
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Marketing New Brain posted:The nephalia drownyard deck was some of the most miserable magic I can remember. That mirror had to be an all time worst. Painter Stone. Though one day I will show up to a Legacy Grand Prix drunk as hell and play Four Horsemen. I might also be found in a stall in a men's room with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head after round five.
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UberJew posted:same but high tide and pointing blue sun's zenith at the opponent Same but Necroing and Drain Lifeing/Corrupting turn after turn while neutering their hand with discard.
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Marketing New Brain posted:The nephalia drownyard deck was some of the most miserable magic I can remember. That mirror had to be an all time worst. That UR Sphinxes Tutelage deck that Michael Majors won a GP with was hilarious. Watch the finals, I think the guy was on Abzan and just had no idea what the gently caress was going on and died so fast. His facial expressions of being so dumbfounded by what's going on is great
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UberJew posted:same but high tide and pointing blue sun's zenith at the opponent solidarity is great, can we also agree that twiddle desire was great
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80s James Hetfield posted:That UR Sphinxes Tutelage deck that Michael Majors won a GP with was hilarious. Watch the finals, I think the guy was on Abzan and just had no idea what the gently caress was going on and died so fast. His facial expressions of being so dumbfounded by what's going on is great I cant watch from work right now; but I'm hoping this is the match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QgJ3Eulczc Because it sounds hilarious and I cant wait to watch
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MTGO communication is not so bad! mostly there's nothing beyond gg and glhf, but I will occasionally compliment an opponent on a sick play or w/e and they respond well. Good-natured grumbling about being flooded or whatever is OK too. Every once in a while someone will go 'nice topdeck'. The best reponse is 'thanks!' I mean you have standard lovely losers like any other game but by the standards of game chat it's practically civilized. I haven't (personally) experienced death threats, anti-gay, anti-semetic, or racist stuff. That's way better than your average game of call of duty or overwatch or company of heros. I've been told I had a really cool deck a couple of times and that felt cool. A couple of times playing goblinslide in KTK draft and a sweet 3-color BUG ramp/control/keranos deck in theros. I did notice that 8-4 draft players were more polite than swiss. (I haven't played much since leagues. I'm unemployed because of health issues so I don't really have the spare cash.)
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GeneX posted:Miracles is fun because not letting your opponent do anything when they still think they're able to is the best form of magic outside vintage doomsday doomsday hits a rare sweet spot of being as frustrating to play as it it is to play against
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mandatory lesbian posted:doomsday hits a rare sweet spot of being as frustrating to play as it it is to play against Doomsday isn't annoying to play against. It usually only takes a couple turns after they resolve it for them to lose.
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Pontius Pilate posted:Doomsday isn't annoying to play against. It usually only takes a couple turns after they resolve it for them to lose.
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