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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Small tip: ty for the advice but actually I have no intentions of quitting.
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Mar 12, 2017 23:26
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Corbyn and McDonnell are literally going to demonstrate against themselves it's hilarious.
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Mar 12, 2017 23:43
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Isn't this exactly what they said they'd do?
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Mar 12, 2017 23:59
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Pissflaps posted:Corbyn and McDonnell are literally going to demonstrate against themselves it's hilarious. One assumes they're voting yes to the amendments, and asking mps to do the same
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Mar 13, 2017 00:00
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One doesn't have to assume anything it's a matter of record that they voted for the unamended bill twice.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:01
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Looks like their protest against themselves + others will partially work then!
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Mar 13, 2017 00:04
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Pissflaps posted:One doesn't have to assume anything it's a matter of record that they voted for the unamended bill twice. The oppositions job is to oppose
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Mar 13, 2017 00:15
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Pissflaps I don't know if you've been watching the world lately, but the way politics works these days is you can do whatever the gently caress you want and say all the lies you want and no one will hold you accountable for poo poo, so "some politician said/did X some time ago!" is meaningless in this poo poo world. Hopefully though, maybe, the amended bill goes through. I really hope so, mostly out of self-interest, but also because at this stage of the game those two amendments will soften the blow of Brexit considerably. Without them, well, everything's still kinda hosed.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:17
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TomViolence posted:I reckon it's fine to say mad, because mental illness isn't madness. The state of the world in TYOOL 2017 is loving insane, pants-on-head crazy and can readily be described as mad. Anxiety or depression or paranoid schizophrenia on the other hand are mental illnesses and while the world being completely looney tunes can play a role in causing mental illnesses, people suffering from them are not crazy. The world is. Where does that blokes housemate come in on this spectrum (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 13, 2017 00:19
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Certainly outside of things you should mockingly bring up.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:20
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Breath Ray posted:Where does that blokes housemate come in on this spectrum Thanks for being a huge oval office as usual Breath Ray.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:38
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Namtab posted:Looks like their protest against themselves + others will partially work then! It's not the first time Corbyn's protested against himself… https://twitter.com/jasongroves1/status/780361445326331904
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Mar 13, 2017 00:44
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Upstanding Neighbourhoods' Fash CYOA showed up again, this time as a sponsored post. With a really strange tagline, because my immediate first thought was that it was going to be an EFF/Liberty thing about encryption laws or data protection.
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Mar 13, 2017 01:07
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Thank you all for politely yet firmly informing me about the wonders of the C-Mole.
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Mar 13, 2017 01:08
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Labour's order of preference: 1) Amended bill 2) Unamended bill 3) No bill How is this a difficult concept to grasp?
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Mar 13, 2017 01:12
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Remind me, where was that neat old article about how and why the Economist is poo poo? I know the reasons, I just want to read that article again.
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Mar 13, 2017 01:51
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Guavanaut posted:Upstanding Neighbourhoods' Fash CYOA showed up again, this time as a sponsored post. Open You're Yes To Hate.
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Mar 13, 2017 03:38
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TinTower posted:It's not the first time Corbyn's protested against himself… Did he back down and do what he demanded?
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Mar 13, 2017 08:03
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Darth Walrus posted:Remind me, where was that neat old article about how and why the Economist is poo poo? I know the reasons, I just want to read that article again. It was in rival publication the atlantic - so treat its conclusions with caution.
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Mar 13, 2017 08:39
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 https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/840981294674771968
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Mar 13, 2017 09:28
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Darth Walrus posted:Remind me, where was that neat old article about how and why the Economist is poo poo? I know the reasons, I just want to read that article again. https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...post-1991/7415/ also rip your sperm when they get rid of all sorts of regulations post-brexit https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/840779102751752192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Mar 13, 2017 09:48
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Valerie Solanas was right.
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Mar 13, 2017 10:03
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Guavanaut posted:Valerie Solanas was right. Also PD James (in the original Children of Men it was men who were all infertile). 
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Mar 13, 2017 10:14
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It's a shame that nobody will see this and nothing matters.
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Mar 13, 2017 10:48
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I think that's not actually a TV screen but something they blue-screen stuff onto so he probably can't actually see it. Still pretty funny though and politicians really need to know they're gonna get caught out on this stuff. Edit: If it actually is a screen then that's pretty amazing though.
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Mar 13, 2017 10:59
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the presenter lady points to it, gesturing in disbelief
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Mar 13, 2017 11:05
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PA have published fuller details about what Jeremy Corbyn said about a second Scottish referendum, including the question he was asked. I suspect this isn't actually a case of him going against Labour policy, but an example of him failing to express himself well when asked a question. With hindsight, perhaps he could have said "I don't think there should be a second referendum because I think it is in Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom's interests to stay part of the UK, although I accept that the Scottish Parliament rather than Westminster should decide whether a second referendum is held". However, he didn't say that. Asked whether a second referendum is "inevitable" (not the same thing as whether you support it to be fair) he gave an answer which simply talked about it being "fine" but didn't mention at any point that he would prefer it didn't happen. It's a lot easier for me to write a clear sentence at my keyboard with no pressure on me than it is for him to give an answer in an interview. However, that's a party leader has to do, even though it's hard. I think there's a tendency for some of Mr Corbyn's supporters to imagine that he's going around making clear statements of policy which the media then ignore or twist. Alternatively, maybe his statements are "nuanced" and the media and voters can't handle nuance. In fact, his statements are largely incomprehensible. Based on the answer he gave, it's not really clear whether he thinks a referendum is inevitable, or a good thing. While I accept that he actually opposes a referendum, I tihink a fair-minded person looking at the answer he gave and trying to work out what he thinks could easily conclude that on balance, as far as it's possible to tell, it sounds based on that answer like he supports one.
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Mar 13, 2017 11:09
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I think that's not actually a TV screen but something they blue-screen stuff onto so he probably can't actually see it.
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Mar 13, 2017 11:12
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LemonDrizzle posted:Pretty sure it's a TV screen - you can see a reflection of it on the glossy desk they're sitting in front of. Oh well spotted! Wow he's just a complete idiot then!
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Mar 13, 2017 11:13
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Paxman posted:PA have published fuller details about what Jeremy Corbyn said about a second Scottish referendum, including the question he was asked. the reporter is trying to get him to make a prediction about something over which he has no control, he's giving a good answer stating that if there is another referendum it's not a problem, people have the right to do that and he makes the point that it seems the SNP are just centralising power around themselves. CORBYN THINKS SCOTTISH REFERENDUM INEVITABLE is the headline the reporter wanted and didn't get. I see nothing wrong with that answer, there is zero point in making a prediction about the inevitability or not for another referendum for scotland.
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Mar 13, 2017 11:15
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I think it might have helped if he'd mentioned "I hope there isn't" somewhere
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Mar 13, 2017 11:19
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why would he hope there isn't? he believes that people have a right to referenda if they want them, if the scots want it, let them have it.
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Mar 13, 2017 11:21
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JFairfax posted:why would he hope there isn't? Because that's the party position? quote:Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, he said: “No, we are not in favour of a referendum. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.in...6651.html%3Famp
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Mar 13, 2017 11:23
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He could hope Scots continue to not want another referendum? This game of processing Corbyn's ramblings into something approaching an opinion is always fun.
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Mar 13, 2017 11:23
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Well, at least someone recognizes that the English regions exist, even if it is just part of a throwaway comment.
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Mar 13, 2017 11:24
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Pissflaps posted:He could hope Scots continue to not want another referendum? sorry you need something in baby's first sound-byte form to process
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Mar 13, 2017 11:25
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Pissflaps posted:He could hope Scots continue to not want another referendum? He could even have mentioned that a clear majority don't want one
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Mar 13, 2017 11:26
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JFairfax posted:why would he hope there isn't? Do you understand that yes not asked these things in a personal capacity, but as the representative of the party?
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Mar 13, 2017 11:27
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the question said "Do you think a referendum is inevitable?" does the labour party have a position on the inevitability of a second indyref? he wasn't asked about the position labour have on a referendum, he was asked to make a prediction about the certainty of an event happening which is a frankly ridiculous request.
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indyref2 is inevitable, climb the mountain of conflict.
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