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Lollerich posted:That looks like they are barely getting 30 fps in 4k. :/ That's because the youtube video is encoded at 30fps, I believe. It was apparently running at 60fps in 4k at PAX, but that was using a 1080ti.
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SgtSteel91 posted:Yeah, I have an unopened copy but I already got my fill of dark medieval fantasy from Dark Souls and Dragon Age. And the more I read posts in this thread that amount to "Witcher 3 good therefor MEA bad" the less I want to play it. If you don't play W3 you'll have over a hundred more hours free to slam your head in a door, which is apparently your favorite hobby.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:And people that want to play a game less because of how much people can't shut the gently caress up about it is also inevitable, so what's your point? Ahh yes, this game that is legit good I really don't want to play because of my stubborn indie love of underground and unknown things. Back to playing this charming Connect-Four clone on my iPhone, I suppose. Those pathetic fools, playing actual good games. Heh, what fuckin' losers.
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Drifter posted:I really can't think of any worse subset of fans than an entrenched Nintendo only product. I'm honestly unsure how you can say this when there are literally Witcher 3 fans in this very thread.
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Drifter posted:Ahh yes, this game that is legit good I really don't want to play because of my stubborn indie love of underground and unknown things. Back to playing this charming Connect-Four clone on my iPhone, I suppose. Those pathetic fools, playing actual good games. Heh, what fuckin' losers. I was more getting at "People will be people, and yelling at people for being people is super weird"
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Spikeguy posted:Honestly, I'd have to disagree. That was the first time I ever experienced such an explosion of outrage over something like a game before. It really caught me off guard. I liked most of the game, had fun playing it and thought the ending was lame but moved on. Like someone posted a while back the response far outweighed the "crime". My reaction was basically "lol that ending was pretty lazy I wonder what people are saying abo...  "Then I went back to exploding stupid geth faces in the multiplayer.
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The EA support site predicts that you can supposedly have 1080 at 30fps on a gtx 1060. https://help.ea.com/en/help/mass-effect/mass-effect-andromeda/are-you-ready-for-mass-effect-andromeda/?sf53085265=1#pc
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I think the primary lesson Bioware should've taken from Witcher 3 ought to have been "attention to detail and polish is important", but they clearly haven't done that. I would settle for "fewer sidequests with more effort put into them" and they haven't done that either. Although I am a sucker for lots of sidequests, crafting systems, and exploration/puzzle type stuff. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, and it really isn't good game design but I enjoy it.
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marshmallow creep posted:
"“But we’ve also observed what other games have been doing, like The Witcher. And it was very important for us that the quantity of scope doesn’t downgrade the quality of whatever you are doing there,” they said." It's not a direct "We're like Witcher 3 now", but they drop it's name, specifically when talking about meaningful quests.
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marshmallow creep posted:The EA support site predicts that you can supposedly have 1080 at 30fps on a gtx 1060. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/mass-effect-andromeda
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Excited to finally be able to play this game soon. I'm going to save my 10 hour preview until Sunday/Monday. To anyone that has played an EA game on early access in the past. If I'm playing it Monday into Tuesday at midnight, will it just ignore the time limit or will I need to quit/download a quick patch to keep going?
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I was more getting at "People will be people, and yelling at people for being people is super weird" But people yelling at people for being people is also people being people.
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Drifter posted:"“But we’ve also observed what other games have been doing, like The Witcher. And it was very important for us that the quantity of scope doesn’t downgrade the quality of whatever you are doing there,” they said." So it sounds like maybe they did take a page out of TW3's book? I mean, what people ITT complain about is how much better TW3 looks, and even as someone who bounced off of witcher games in general I'd agree to that, but they're not talking about graphics there so much as making sure everything you do is enjoyable regardless of the scope of content. Funky See Funky Do posted:But people yelling at people for being people is also people being people. mother of god, how deep does this go
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marshmallow creep posted:The EA support site predicts that you can supposedly have 1080 at 30fps on a gtx 1060. Unless the PS4 upscales from 300p or something, that's surely a mistake?
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:So it sounds like maybe they did take a page out of TW3's book? I mean, what people ITT complain about is how much better TW3 looks, and even as someone who bounced off of witcher games in general I'd agree to that, but they're not talking about graphics there so much as making sure everything you do is enjoyable regardless of the scope of content. quote:Condominas explained that the BioWare team listened to the criticism they received regarding the tedious side quests in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Condominas dubs the issue as the "Hinterlands problem," where players must grind through unsatisfying side content in one location. It's what it sounds like. We'll see what they actually implemented, though. The Hinterlands was also the first location I believe, which maybe means they've just kept all the same poo poo, but spread it out more evenly over the game. 
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:So it sounds like maybe they did take a page out of TW3's book? I mean, what people ITT complain about is how much better TW3 looks, and even as someone who bounced off of witcher games in general I'd agree to that, but they're not talking about graphics there so much as making sure everything you do is enjoyable regardless of the scope of content. All the way to the people being people at the top.
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Serf posted:I think the primary lesson Bioware should've taken from Witcher 3 ought to have been "attention to detail and polish is important", but they clearly haven't done that. I would settle for "fewer sidequests with more effort put into them" and they haven't done that either. Even Witcher 3 has some obvious filler with stuff like the random loot chests in the wild, but contracts that boil down to "kill this generic monster" still feel like they tell good little stories; this summer wraith exists because she was hung in a burning village, while this one was was created out of a scorned lover committing suicide. A Mass Effect quest to kill a Fiend would be functionally the same, but it very well might not land with the same impact for exactly that reason bolded above.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:So it sounds like maybe they did take a page out of TW3's book? I mean, what people ITT complain about is how much better TW3 looks, and even as someone who bounced off of witcher games in general I'd agree to that, but they're not talking about graphics there so much as making sure everything you do is enjoyable regardless of the scope of content. The point is that people bringing up TW3 aren't pulling it from thin air, Bioware themselves have invited such comparisons in promoting their game and it's fair to discuss it.
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Spacebump posted:Excited to finally be able to play this game soon. I'm going to save my 10 hour preview until Sunday/Monday. To anyone that has played an EA game on early access in the past. If I'm playing it Monday into Tuesday at midnight, will it just ignore the time limit or will I need to quit/download a quick patch to keep going? For BF1 I had to quit out and let the game unlock properly so most likely same deal here
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maybe I'm weird but I enjoy it when people make their complaints heard about a product they consider shoddy. I mean how else do you expect a game company to improve if you don't let them know, hey this ending was crappy It went way too far in ME3's situation (but that's pretty hard to avoid in this day and age thanks to the anonymity of the internet), but I think the principle is good. Of course the real trick would be just not to purchase more games from said company, but gamers are in aggregate probably the worst consumers around
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:So it sounds like maybe they did take a page out of TW3's book? I mean, what people ITT complain about is how much better TW3 looks, and even as someone who bounced off of witcher games in general I'd agree to that, but they're not talking about graphics there so much as making sure everything you do is enjoyable regardless of the scope of content. All the way to backwards_gun.gif
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When you guys say "it went too far" did people get killed over the ME3 ending or do you just mean they complained about it on the internet?
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Phi230 posted:Theyre p good I thought they were shallow self insert wankery, to be honest.
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marshmallow creep posted:Even Witcher 3 has some obvious filler with stuff like the random loot chests in the wild, but contracts that boil down to "kill this generic monster" still feel like they tell quaint little stories. A Mass Effect quest to kill a Fiend would be functionally the same, but it very well might not land with the same impact for exactly that reason bolded above. Yeah, I remember taking on what I thought would be simple monster hunts, but each one had its own crafted area to move through and track the monster, and with Geralt's inner monologue it felt a lot more involved even if it was simple on paper. Small details and effort like that are what makes TW3 so drat good. I feel like Andromeda is at least attempting to do their own versions of the detective bits with the scanning and finding of clues and whatnot. I liked that mechanic in the Arkham games and in TW3, so I hope they can make it their own.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:When you guys say "it went too far" did people get killed over the ME3 ending or do you just mean they complained about it on the internet? They started harassing people tangentially involved with the game in really creepy and uncomfortable ways.
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Hey if you don't like hearing about TW3 you should probably avoid videogame forums. Every loving RPG that comes out will receive comparisons to one of the best RPG of all time. It's not loving rocket science.
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Bioware asked us to put a lot of hours into that trilogy, so yeah, a little anger was called for when they figured that a brief, vague, dark ending without significant variations would suffice. I still don't know what they could have been thinking, other than maybe "gently caress, we don't have time to produce more alternate scenes; let's just try for something enigmatic and hope for the best." But as with almost everything gamers do, it got seriously out of hand.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I was more getting at "People will be people, and yelling at people for being people is super weird" Gamers aren't people.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:When you guys say "it went too far" did people get killed over the ME3 ending or do you just mean they complained about it on the internet? the ME3 ending killed my dog
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Funky See Funky Do posted:When you guys say "it went too far" did people get killed over the ME3 ending or do you just mean they complained about it on the internet? I want to say there were death threats and like, twitter bullying of tangentially related employees or something. Deffo some minor real world harrassment/shaming. I remember a cupcake thing that I think was done, but that was more like a peaceful protest than gamergate poo poo, though.
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Honestly the scan mechanic in Andromeda looks preferable to me because I didn't like how Witcher Sense looked.
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Zore posted:They started harassing people tangentially involved with the game in really creepy and uncomfortable ways. For example? Like they tweeted at them that the ending sucked or they tweeted at them that the ending sucked and I know where you live?
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Funky See Funky Do posted:For example? Like they tweeted at them that the ending sucked or they tweeted at them that the ending sucked and I know where you live? Like they threatened to rape female employees and sent pictures of her house.
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marshmallow creep posted:Honestly the scan mechanic in Andromeda looks preferable to me because I didn't like how Witcher Sense looked. Witcher sense was awful, but it wasn't a thing you should be using all the time, so I think it worked really well as a use it and lose it type of skill. In the Batman games I was always torn between using detective mode vs regular vision because det mode was just so much more useful most of the time, but I didn't get the sweet visuals of regular vision.
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To make my stance clear about the mass effect 3 ending. They deserved all the CRITICAL poo poo they got. Not all the weirdo stalker doxx poo poo.
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I mean Bioware has this problem apparently. Remember when Jennifer Hepler had to quit the company after the shitstorm that came her way when she said she'd like for games to have an option to skip the combat like you can skip the dialogue?
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epenthesis posted:Bioware asked us to put a lot of hours into that trilogy they released a product. if you get angry about your toys you are a broken person.
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Zore posted:Like they threatened to rape female employees and sent pictures of her house. Oh god I forgot about that. 
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Serf posted:I mean Bioware has this problem apparently. Remember when Jennifer Hepler had to quit the company after the shitstorm that came her way when she said she'd like for games to have an option to skip the combat like you can skip the dialogue? Hell I agree with her. Plenty of cool videogame stories my wife would love. But she doesn't like anything with more complexity than Chrono Trigger. And loving thousands of hours of piccross.
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cams posted:no It's okay to have healthy emotional investments in your hobbies. You're broken if you don't feel?
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