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Popelmon posted:
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DrVenkman posted:HIMYM is probably the good standard, and while those early seasons were pretty good, Lily never stopped being an awful, selfish and petty character. Hers was definitely the first case of character assassination, while Marshall survived relatively unscathed until they turned him into a manchild (I've never been surprised that Segel was the last person to sign for the final season), but Ted is just the ultimate in "how can we make this guy even more loathsome?" (Especially beginning in the middle seasons, when they started adding in a ton of subtext to suggest that he'd been in love with Lily this whole time, too, not just Robin.)
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Mar 13, 2017 19:57
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I've seen maybe a dozen episodes of HIMYM. My favorite thing related to it is Jason Segal giving it poo poo in This is the End.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:00
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The first few seasons of HIMYM spoke to me in my mid-20s. I don't have anything nice to late about the later seasons.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:04
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Snak posted:My favorite thing related to it is Jason Segal giving it poo poo in This is the End. Yeah, he was miserable on it for the last few years and made it clear around the seventh season that he'd fulfill his contract for the eighth and then walk. They finally convinced him to return with a decent pay raise and a promise that they'd give him some new meat to chew on (which is why he spends like 75 percent of the season trying to get to Farhampton for the wedding, instead of being with the gang for more of the same yet again). Josh Lyman posted:The first few seasons of HIMYM spoke to me in my mid-20s. The Marshall / Lily breakup storyline is still hard for me to watch, because five years ago, that was me -- I got laid off and my wife and I were on the rocks, so rather than stick around in Wisconsin and fight, I took a job in Baltimore and lived there for a year (and I even said some of the same moronic "we need to find ourselves" bullshit). She didn't have to let me come back home. Timby fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Mar 13, 2017 20:04
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Timby posted:The ninth season is all about Robin and Barney's wedding weekend. God drat it, NINE seasons?
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Mar 13, 2017 20:07
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Rhyno posted:God drat it, NINE seasons? After being on the brink of cancellation for the first few years (which is why they kept introducing potential backup Mothers like Victoria), it suddenly became a ratings hit and CBS desperately wanted to keep it going for as long as humanly possible.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:12
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I didn't even realize it was on for so long. I guess I watched it for much longer than 3 seasons and now I hate myself.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:15
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Timby posted:The ninth season is all about Robin and Barney's wedding weekend. And the most infuriating thing is that they had a perfectly servicable ending all ready to go but decided to go with the bizarre notion that the last 9 years of the show were about him asking his kids if it was ok to bone his ex. http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/alternate-how-i-met-your-mother-ending-leaks-20140906
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Mar 13, 2017 20:15
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American Crime season 3 started and is getting crazy good press which reminded me that I never watched season 2 and dammit I'm still trying to work through the mountain of stuff I've missed since Zelda came out but I definitely wanna go back and watch that one too.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:16
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HIMYM was strongest when dabbling in its own mythology. The Robin Sparkles/Slap Bet episodes are good because they escaped the typical sitcom stuff and weren't afraid to be a little weird. A lot of the moments meant to be sweet or heartwarming never landed for me, at least not as well as the same moments in a show like Parks and Rec. In fact, the only thing I remember from the show where I was like "thats a genuinely sweet thing to do" was Barney flying across country to get Lily back for Marshall, mainly because NPH nailed the whole thing. HIMYM is a frustrating show for me to talk about it. It had so much potential, and it reached it a few times, just enough to make me keep watching. Then just when I thought, ok this is just another average sitcom it took a big diarrhea poo poo all over itself in the last seasons.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:19
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Oh man, I had forgotten about this. Recently, I was hanging out with my friend while she was buying a car. While we were waiting for the sales staff to keep wasting our time, there was an episode of HIMYM on tv in their lounge. It was embarrassing to be in front of the tv. It was an episode where there was some kind of bet where Barney really wanted to see Lily's boobs. It was just vulgar.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:23
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HIMYM's ending was perfectly in line with the entire series. Dude spent 9 years talking about 1 girl, and the mother only ever as an aside.
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swickles posted:HIMYM was strongest when dabbling in its own mythology. The Robin Sparkles/Slap Bet episodes are good because they escaped the typical sitcom stuff and weren't afraid to be a little weird. A lot of the moments meant to be sweet or heartwarming never landed for me, at least not as well as the same moments in a show like Parks and Rec. In fact, the only thing I remember from the show where I was like "thats a genuinely sweet thing to do" was Barney flying across country to get Lily back for Marshall, mainly because NPH nailed the whole thing. HIMYM is a frustrating show for me to talk about it. It had so much potential, and it reached it a few times, just enough to make me keep watching. Then just when I thought, ok this is just another average sitcom it took a big diarrhea poo poo all over itself in the last seasons. Yeah, when it went whole hog with a concept episode, it was great. (Generally, anyway -- the last Slap Bet episode is just all sorts of terrible.) Like you said, the Robin Sparkles one, or when Robin "goes Canadian," or the "Murtaugh list." But, man, when it decided to take a poo poo on itself, like that abominable Band or DJ episode, holy poo poo could it get bad.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:25
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Timby posted:Edit: The final season still comes off a giant trolling exercise of an audience to me. It's so intentionally lovely to the audience.
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Mar 13, 2017 20:48
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MacheteZombie posted:The final season still comes off a giant trolling exercise of an audience to me. It's so intentionally lovely to the audience. I still think it was Bays and Thomas being just utterly stubborn about sticking to their plan. "drat it, we decided seven years ago that the kids were going to tell Ted to go bang Robin in 2030, and we filmed it, so, by God, we're going to use it."  "Uh, we just spent the last, like, three or four seasons illustrating exactly why Ted and Robin are completely wrong for each other." "FULL POWER, drat YOU!"
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Mar 13, 2017 20:59
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Timby posted:I know that Dexter is probably the gold standard for dramas, but is there a sitcom that flew off the rails so spectacularly as How I Met Your Mother? Those last three, maybe four seasons are just astounding in how bad they are. The Office is the best recent example for this in it's later seasons, just terrible and nothing like what made me enjoy the earlier seasons so much
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Mar 13, 2017 21:21
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savinhill posted:The Office is the best recent example for this in it's later seasons, just terrible and nothing like what made me enjoy the earlier seasons so much And then the final season bounces back again just like Scrubs.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:23
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Wheat Loaf posted:No way, you don't want to do that. Even if the mythology arc goes a bit funny, William B. Davis is always good fun in it. Cancer Man himself isn't the problem, but he's an indicator of what kind of episode it's going to be. Every episode about THE CONSPIRACY feels like such a waste of time. Not only are they kinda dull on their face, I also know that poo poo never goes anywhere in the end. I enjoy the one-offs way, way more.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:26
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It's not that it doesn't go anywhere. It goes everywhere! It's great. The first movie is every conspiracy rolled into one and it's amazing. Even though it makes literally no sense. I love the meta-aspect of the main conspiracies. "The Black Oil"? It's got 4 different origin stories. It doesn't matter, because it's "The Black Oil". It's a great thing. It's always gonna be black oil and it's always gonna do black oil-esque things.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:28
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The HIMYM ending only seems to work if you pretend that about half the show didn't happen. I can see why they would film it back in Season 2 if they thought that it was only going to run for 3 or 4 seasons, but to get all the way to Season 9 and think that yeah, this ending still totally works. Still, NPH was consistently pretty great, even when they gave him some very questionable things to work with.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:29
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I love how the X-Files even predicted the whole "bee conspiracy" craze of the 00s.
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precision posted:I love how the X-Files even predicted the whole "bee conspiracy" craze of the 00s. If only the X-Files bee conspiracy was real. In Fight the Future, the bee conspiracy is that special bees can grow crops really well in adverse conditions because of pollination skills. Or something. It was all very dumb. But the idea of a government conspiracy to end world hunger is like, the least sinister government conspiracy I've ever heard of. I'm sure it was for profit.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:35
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Snak posted:It's not that it doesn't go anywhere. It goes everywhere! It's great. I guess the thing is that I don't have any fondness for conspiracy theories, fictional or otherwise.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:38
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Lurdiak posted:I guess the thing is that I don't have any fondness for conspiracy theories, fictional or otherwise. Man, that's like. 3/4 of X-Files. Like, I would ask why you're even watching X-Files, but of course there are some stand alone episodes that don't really have a conspiracy aspect to them. But not a lot. Even monster of the week ones have a coverup by some company or something. I mean, it's a good show, keep watching it. But like.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:40
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I enjoy the characters!
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Mar 13, 2017 21:42
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Lurdiak posted:I enjoy the characters! Yeah, I get it. That's a good reason to watch the show. The best, reason, even.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:43
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swickles posted:Man, then thats bizarre. Maybe they just got fatigued.
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There was a certain point where Duchovny started having more fun with the character and the show becomes far more enjoyable. I can't even pinpoint it, he was suddenly just so much more fun to watch.
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DrVenkman posted:Still, NPH was consistently pretty great, even when they gave him some very questionable things to work with. Yeah, he always managed to make a complete sociopath / monstrous human being of a character watchable, which is impressive.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:46
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Probably not far after the writers gave Molder his porn addiction.
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Rhyno posted:There was a certain point where Duchovny started having more fun with the character and the show becomes far more enjoyable. I can't even pinpoint it, he was suddenly just so much more fun to watch. A lot of the episodes I remember fondly are ones that take the piss out of the show or characters to various degrees. The genie episode, the vampire town, the double abduction episode...
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CBS has ordered directly to series a single camera spinoff of Big Bang Theory called Young Sheldon and the pilot will be directed by Jon Favreau. Which one of you asked for this poo poo?
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My favorite Mulder moment in the entire show is when he's spooning orange juice concentrate into a flask of vodka in his motel room. I did this to sneak into the theater when X-Files: I Want to Believe came out. Both were terrible. It was great.
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GreenNight posted:Probably not far after the writers gave Molder his porn addiction. Doesn't that happen in, like, the second season, when Scully and the Lone Gunmen think Mulder's dead so they investigate his apartment?
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X-O posted:CBS has ordered directly to series a single camera spinoff of Big Bang Theory called Young Sheldon and the pilot will be directed by Jon Favreau. As I said previously, this show is set in the past so every episode there will be no less than three references to actual events that the characters could have no possibly knowledge of.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:49
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Maybe? I've been going through a re-watch over the past 2 years but am struggling to get through season 8.
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X-O posted:Which one of you asked for this poo poo? The 20 million people or whatever who watch that show every week?
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Timby posted:Doesn't that happen in, like, the second season, when Scully and the Lone Gunmen think Mulder's dead so they investigate his apartment? I'm pretty sure there are hints in the first season. It's a running joke for a long time. also, I lied: I cannot pick a favorite Mulder moment.
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Snak posted:also, I lied: I cannot pick a favorite Mulder moment.  Get out of the car. Why? The upholstery's already ruined. GET OUT OF THE CAR
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