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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Ginette Reno posted:

Apparently Mark Streit got hit in the balls last game or something so even the Pens' replacement d are getting hurt now. It's kinda stupid how this team can have like half of its roster out and still keep winning year after year.

We can all agree playing MAF vs. the Flames was a passive "gently caress-you" for not trading for him, yeah?
Betting they wish the narrative carried out a little differently on that one.


He could've been yours, Burkie-boy.

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Duck Rodgers
Oct 9, 2012
How many more points does Laine need than Matthews to win the Calder? With the Jets out, all I want is for Patrik to win trophies.

Werenski, Murray, Marner et al chose a bad year to be rookies.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

We can all agree playing MAF vs. the Flames was a passive "gently caress-you" for not trading for him, yeah?
Betting they wish the narrative carried out a little differently on that one.


He could've been yours, Burkie-boy.

Maf is actually playing pretty well lately and the Pens have a lot of games in March so probably more just resting Murray.

I'm a little worried that Maf playing halfway decent will tempt them to yank Murray the minute he has a bad playoff game, though. They nearly cost themselves the Cup last year with that stupidity.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Ginette Reno posted:

Apparently Mark Streit got hit in the balls last game or something so even the Pens' replacement d are getting hurt now. It's kinda stupid how this team can have like half of its roster out and still keep winning year after year.

e: for reference

hurt:

Matt Cullen C Undisclosed
03/14/17 Patric HornqvistRW Concussion
03/14/17 Mark Streit D Lower Body
03/12/17 Carl Hagelin LW Lower Body
03/08/17 Kris Letang D Upper Body
03/07/17 Bryan Rust RW Arm
02/23/17 Trevor Daley D Knee
02/17/17 Olli Maatta D Hand


Four top six d and three top nine forwards plus our best fourth liner :psyduck:

And yet Beau Bennett is fine.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Duck Rodgers posted:

How many more points does Laine need than Matthews to win the Calder? With the Jets out, all I want is for Patrik to win trophies.
1

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

xzzy posted:

she always spouts off some stereotypical hockey coach babble like "need more hustle" or "get more pucks on net."

Hah my girlfriend has started doing this as well; very much in the ironic sense, along with the "more grit" and "battle it out" staples of cherry'isms

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

Apparently Mark Streit got hit in the balls last game or something so even the Pens' replacement d are getting hurt now.

Streit's the guy who broke his dick with the Flyers too right? That poor man.

Duck Rodgers
Oct 9, 2012

I think whole playing center, worse linemates, playing in Toronto thing gives Matthews a bit of a buffer. Laine probably needs to outscore him a decent amount to get it.

Laine only needs 1 more even strength goal to tie Crosby's rookie year, and 6 for Ovechkin.

The Jets PP sucks. Scheifele, Laine and Ehlers are in the top 15 for even strength points, but the Jets don't have anyone in the top 50 for PP points.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Pornographic Memory posted:

Streit's the guy who broke his dick with the Flyers too right? That poor man.

The very same!

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Duck Rodgers posted:

Werenski, Murray, Marner et al chose a bad year to be rookies.

These three are the finalists if Matthews and Laine don't exist and that's a commentary on how good they are, yet how two of the three will be lost while the other gets title of "2017 Calder Third Place Finisher".

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


DJExile posted:

The "emotionless hockey robot" thing is a very legit knock but holy poo poo does baseball have the market loving cornered on stamping out anyone who dares to have a shred of personality.

Guess which sports don't!

NBA and to a lesser extent, NFL. It's always hilarious listening to the hot takes about Cam Newton and OBJ. No one dares say a thing about NBA though, because big personalities have been a thing since dunking returned.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


iospace posted:

Guess which sports don't!

NBA and to a lesser extent, NFL. It's always hilarious listening to the hot takes about Cam Newton and OBJ. No one dares say a thing about NBA though, because big personalities have been a thing since dunking returned.

The NFL only has an issue with black people having personalities. Meanwhile a frat party made flesh is totally just havin' fun out there, guys.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Baseball can be boring but it's your fault if you pick the team that has rules against facial hair and long hair. Meanwhile in hockey everyone is canadian with a nickname that's just their last name with "er" or "y" tacked on the end

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
Lots of the big stars in the NFL and NBA never say anything in interviews either but have personalities thrust upon them. Tom Brady has never said anything interesting in his life.

Porrima
Oct 18, 2012

The world is fucked
and so are you.

Thanks, humanity

ElwoodCuse posted:

Hockey actively tries to stamp out "household name" guys, so does baseball.

The cover of this year's MLB video game is Ken Griffey Jr because he's the only fun baseball player of the last 30 years


Is this a question of "personality" or also of "stardom"?
Because it may be true that NFL and NBA stars have no real personality as just mentioned (I know very little about the american big three sportshappeningses) but I think those leagues are "star-"led in marketing and teams come second.

I am of course aware of the fact that hockey is very no-personality and no-household names, but I marked that into beaing really a "canadian" instead of an "american" game, (fits finnish mentality too), but it surprised me to know baseball works this way too. Are there historical reasons? Star culture seems to be the american way to do things.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Duke Chin got his bourgeois beer

Also he has a good shirt



Cannot confirm if Duke has a big bushy mustache just like his av. 4/5

Also, you look like a young Bob McKenzie

Duck Rodgers
Oct 9, 2012
I feel like baseball moved away from being star driven when it turned out that all the stars were juicing. I didn't pay attention to baseball when I was a kid, but still always heard about Mcgwire and Bonds hitting dingers.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


DJExile posted:

The NFL only has an issue with black people having personalities. Meanwhile a frat party made flesh is totally just havin' fun out there, guys.

:thejoke:

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Duck Rodgers posted:

I feel like baseball moved away from being star driven when it turned out that all the stars were juicing. I didn't pay attention to baseball when I was a kid, but still always heard about Mcgwire and Bonds hitting dingers.

Baseball is the absolute worst for "unwritten rules" bullshit and this has been the case for decades. Meanwhile in hockey you have opposing coaches and parents threatening 6-year-old Sidney Crosby because he's "too good".

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

The only baseball stars I was exposed to as a kid were from Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball for the SNES and that one episode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns recruits pros to play for the company softball team.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007



oh whoops :downs:


ElwoodCuse posted:

Baseball is the absolute worst for "unwritten rules" bullshit and this has been the case for decades. Meanwhile in hockey you have opposing coaches and parents threatening 6-year-old Sidney Crosby because he's "too good".

yeeeeeeeeeep

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

ElwoodCuse posted:

Baseball is the absolute worst for "unwritten rules" bullshit and this has been the case for decades. Meanwhile in hockey you have opposing coaches and parents threatening 6-year-old Sidney Crosby because he's "too good".

From my experiences playing and coaching youth hockey I can confirm that video someone posted earlier of parents fighting in the stands and screaming is pretty much spot on for hockey parents. People are fuckin nuts.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Lots of the big stars in the NFL and NBA never say anything in interviews either but have personalities thrust upon them. Tom Brady has never said anything interesting in his life.

He endorsed Trump, albeit in uninteresting fashion.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Lol. Laine could outscore Matthews by 10 points in 8 less games and he still wouldn't win the Calder

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



I think Laine's got to be the front runner, stuff I read seems to give him an edge and everyone loves goals.

Plus I think Matthews getting it would hit a performance bonus and the Leafs cap don't need that

Chows
Apr 13, 2002

I went to the game last night it was fun they still really don't like Marchand there ok thanks for reading :)

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

A Typical Goon posted:

Lol. Laine could outscore Matthews by 10 points in 8 less games and he still wouldn't win the Calder

Well, it should be Laine if he outproduces Matthews, given the trend of "give the Calder to the rookie with the most points (more GP as a tiebreaker)". Like right now I'd say Laine wins the Calder with the 5 point edge, if Matthews gets within 1-2 points he probably wins because :lol: NHL writers.

I could also see Laine winning if he managed to lead the league in goals, which isn't out of the realm of possibility but it'd be tough with Winnipeg having played more games than any team in the league.

e: Pens got the NCAA free agent everybody wanted:
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/841775568412631040

Kilza fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 14, 2017

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

A Typical Goon posted:

Lol. Laine could outscore Matthews by 10 points in 8 less games and he still wouldn't win the Calder
Why do you think that?

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Kilza posted:

Well, it should be Laine if he outproduces Matthews, given the trend of "give the Calder to the rookie with the most points (more GP as a tiebreaker)". Like right now I'd say Laine wins the Calder with the 5 point edge, if Matthews gets within 1-2 points he probably wins because :lol: NHL writers.

I could also see Laine winning if he managed to lead the league in goals, which isn't out of the realm of possibility but it'd be tough with Winnipeg having played more games than any team in the league.

e: Pens got the NCAA free agent everybody wanted:
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/841775568412631040

With how injured our forwards are he could immediately play :v:.

College FAs have been good for the Pens so I'm happy about this.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Why do you think that?

Because of the mad hype Matthews has gotten by playing in the Toronto market?

Media types like Jeff O'Neil hyping him as the most valuable player in the league, Mackenzie and LeBrun both claiming Matthews is a top 20 NHL player today and Friedman saying that he hoped Laine didnt win the Rocket cause it would make the choice for the Calder "impossible". That last one was really convinced me that Laine has no chance at the Calder. A rookie winning the Rocket should not make the Calder a hard choice. It should make it a really loving easy one actually.

Why do you think the NHL writers are going to pick anyone other than Matthews?

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug

Ginette Reno posted:

From my experiences playing and coaching youth hockey I can confirm that video someone posted earlier of parents fighting in the stands and screaming is pretty much spot on for hockey parents. People are fuckin nuts.

But without them, we'd never have been blessed with this:

https://youtu.be/EN2_PSs2Pjc

Every time I watch it I like something else - the goalie sticking with the play til the whistle, whatever the gently caress "GET THE WHEELS ON THE BUS(?)" means, the mortified lady with blonde hair walking back to her seat going "oh god not this bullshit again". A perfect microcosm of junior hockey stereotypes


Chows posted:

WAY TO GO, PAUL

By far the best bit. Fuckin Paul

aejix fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Mar 15, 2017

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Ginette Reno posted:

From my experiences playing and coaching youth hockey I can confirm that video someone posted earlier of parents fighting in the stands and screaming is pretty much spot on for hockey parents. People are fuckin nuts.

You're a saint for wanting to do that in the face of a generation of MY PERFECT LITTLE ANNNNGEEEEEEEEEL parents.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


I have a few memories of playing in youth games, literally standing and talking with players on the other team, while we're watching out parents fight.

Chows
Apr 13, 2002

aejix posted:

But without them, we'd never have been blessed with this:

https://youtu.be/EN2_PSs2Pjc

Every time I watch it I like something else - the goalie sticking with the play til the whistle, whatever the gently caress "GET THE WHEELS ON THE BUS(?)" means, the mortified lady with blonde hair walking back to her seat going "oh god not this bullshit again". A perfect microcosm of junior hockey stereotypes

WAY TO GO, PAUL

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Chows posted:

WAY TO GO, PAUL

freaking paul, always doing this crap

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high
Why is Emelin playing over Nathan Beaulieu I dont understand

Not the gdt but ofc emelin gets beat hard on the 1st goal


Fire emelin

stab fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Mar 15, 2017

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

aejix posted:

But without them, we'd never have been blessed with this:

https://youtu.be/EN2_PSs2Pjc

Every time I watch it I like something else - the goalie sticking with the play til the whistle, whatever the gently caress "GET THE WHEELS ON THE BUS(?)" means, the mortified lady with blonde hair walking back to her seat going "oh god not this bullshit again". A perfect microcosm of junior hockey stereotypes

I'm sure other sports are like this too but yeah hockey parents are ridiculous.

The worst though is when you get those youth hockey coaches that teach their teams to play dirty. I hope there's less of that now but that poo poo was common as gently caress when I was growing up and is the type of behavior that inevitably inflames the parents too.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

yellowcar posted:

Cannot confirm if Duke has a big bushy mustache just like his av. 4/5

Some mysteries have to remain hidden to the world.

Chows posted:

I went to the game last night it was fun they still really don't like Marchand there ok thanks for reading :)

It was loving grand. That, plus all the hats on the ice for an away player's hat trick. :discourse::kiss:


also secondary trip report: duuuuude rogers arena is easily the coldest loving arena I've ever sat in. That beat out both TD Garden and The Joe in mid February in negative-degree temperatures and easily any of the other pro stadiums I've been in. brr.

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!
N: Islanders continue to play bad against the Hurricanes

V: Josh Ho-Sang is a cool and good hockey man :toot:

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Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Kilza posted:

e: Pens got the NCAA free agent everybody wanted:
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/841775568412631040

people who follow NCAA hockey & prospects: who are the current NHL comps for a kid like this?

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