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Reverand maynard posted:What the gently caress led up to this situation? Because when a cop pulls you over and is walking up to your car the correct course of action is not "pop out of your car aggressively holding your wallet making jerky motions that look like you're about to draw down on a cop" We can do without the victim blaming here
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THEY TOOK ARE JOBS! https://twitter.com/lisang/status/841649337310535680
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Hot Karl Marx posted:They should take more imo or at least spend it better. But yes, I still can't comprehend that americn people could go into major debt/bankruptcy from a child getting injured from being a child or just blind bad luck/genetics. For reference, My sister was born premature and developed cancer. With two well employed parents who both had no limit insurance plans through work it still nearly beggared our family. While insurance squabbled in court over who was paying for what they still had to drain all their savings and retirements accounts and had to sell equity in their house to cover the incidental expenses that insurance wasn't going to cover anyway. Insurance eventually paid something in the millions and my parents out of pocket bill was something like $120k. On a positive note my sister is now a really good oncology nurse at a very good hospital. Health care is complicated.
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:We can do without the victim blaming here I understand what you are saying but that's exactly what he did. The real issue is why the cop had his firearm out in the first place. I simply dont see the justification for it at a minor crash.
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The editing with distracting test and conspiracy music doesn't help. The relevant part happens in the first two minutes of the full video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJrpah-vd6I I appreciate the truck driver crawling under the wheel to avoid being shot by the cop.
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FrozenVent posted:Welp, Breitbart just went off script. poo poo's about to get weird. Do you think Breitbart is really just after chaos? That seems most likely to me at this point.
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Admiral, seven others charged with corruption in new ‘Fat Leonard’ indictment posted:During a port visit by the Blue Ridge to Manila in May 2008, for example, five of the Navy officers attended a “raging multi-day party, with a rotating carousel of prostitutes,” at the Shangri-La Hotel, according to the indictment. The group allegedly drank the hotel’s entire supply of Dom Perignon champagne and rang up expenses exceeding $50,000, which Francis covered in full. 
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Mar 14, 2017 20:57
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It's not the first time ol doug hosed the Philippines.
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Pssh, Tailhook? Watch this!
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ded posted:It's not the first time ol doug hosed the Philippines. 
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Really weird how this poo poo keeps happening. https://twitter.com/BahmanKalbasi/status/841737388179238917
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Handsome Ralph posted:
I hope the corncob pipe was involved somehow.
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If you say yes to a blowie from a Filipino hooker while wearing Douglas MacArthur's wheel cap, I can't really be mad at you.
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not caring here posted:Yeah, that whole "leaving people to bleed out in handcuffs" thing just makes me completely unsympathetic. I get it, cops are gonna make (bad) mistakes sometimes, but poo poo maybe just giving the dude with extra holes you put in him some gauze to try and stem the bleeding a bit? Not only not helping him but making him unable to help himself is just some cold poo poo. I imagine it's because good Samaritan protections don't cover people you just shot. Better to wait for the actual paramedics to get there, from a strictly medico-legal perspective.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I imagine it's because good Samaritan protections don't cover people you just shot. Better to wait for the actual paramedics to get there, from a strictly medico-legal perspective. Doesn't hurt that dead people make for terrible witnesses.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Doesn't hurt that dead people make for terrible witnesses. They are certainly less litigious than alive people, but the jury awards and legal penalties tend to be higher. I highly doubt viability of the patient as a witness factors in to cops' procedures for rendering aid though. I your shooting was justified, the guy can die and you're in the clear. OTOH, since you probably can't establish a meaningful patient relationship, if you try to treat the person you shot you likely open yourself up to civil suits for all sorts of malpractice (and their lawyer is definitely going to claim that whatever damages their client suffered were a result of your interventions rather than the bullet.) IANAL though, just suggesting what I see as plausible.
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Handsome Ralph posted:
What, that doesn't sound like a surprising port call to me
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Stop getting horny guys https://twitter.com/tomricks1/status/841747032599584768 (maybe its that 17-25 year old males are at their maximum 'horny levels')
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Stop getting horny guys Dwayne D Swomp? Lol
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Dead Reckoning posted:They are certainly less litigious than alive people, but the jury awards and legal penalties tend to be higher. I highly doubt viability of the patient as a witness factors in to cops' procedures for rendering aid though. In Florida "A law enforcement officer, including a police officer, has a legal duty to provide aid to ill, injured, and distressed persons who are not in police custody during an emergency whether the law enforcement officer is on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity off-duty." Further, "A law enforcement officer rendering emergency aid to ill, injured, or distressed persons on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity while off-duty is acting within the scope of his or her employment" and is thus shielded from liability. Now I can't speak to other states, but an officer here would be obligated to provide aid to the guy he just shot for no reason up to his level of competence and would be personally shielded from liability for any tort caused by said aid. Here's a handy read if you're curious: http://www.myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/85E4F114E318503185256570006E05B3 Basically your entire post, in florida, is wrong. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Stop getting horny guys Sexually Reproductive Species craves sex, film at 11.
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opps im blind sorry I don't always click every twitter link when im on my phone cause it can be a pain in the rear end Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:They are certainly less litigious than alive people, but the jury awards and legal penalties tend to be higher. I highly doubt viability of the patient as a witness factors in to cops' procedures for rendering aid though. I feel like you're really jumping through some hoops to justify Big Country there shooting some dude in the gut for no reason, and then him and the rest of the cops doing the Circle of Death while he bleeds. Also, if they aren't supposed to help because "what if I get sued," why did that one cop glove up right before the EMS crews were arriving? This is a bad shoot by a bad cop, that got excused for no reason other than that the guy has a badge. I'm sorry if this is really hostile, but my partner at work is a ridiculous police brutality apologist, sheepdog meme poster type guy, and this poo poo is all he can ever talk about. It has driven me insane.
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Mr. Nice! posted:In Florida "A law enforcement officer, including a police officer, has a legal duty to provide aid to ill, injured, and distressed persons who are not in police custody during an emergency whether the law enforcement officer is on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity off-duty." Further, "A law enforcement officer rendering emergency aid to ill, injured, or distressed persons on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity while off-duty is acting within the scope of his or her employment" and is thus shielded from liability. If they weren't gonna do that I'd be okay with them throwing him some bandages and leaving him uncuffed. Or his hands cuffed in front. Or his fuckin' ankles. You know, anything at all rather than just letting a dude bleed out and forcefully stopping him from helping himself not die.
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Mr. Nice! posted:In Florida "A law enforcement officer, including a police officer, has a legal duty to provide aid to ill, injured, and distressed persons who are not in police custody during an emergency whether the law enforcement officer is on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity off-duty." Further, "A law enforcement officer rendering emergency aid to ill, injured, or distressed persons on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity while off-duty is acting within the scope of his or her employment" and is thus shielded from liability. this is a step in the right direction. perhaps cops should be required to have some sort of base level emt cert as well, considering theyre way more likely to encounter people in need of medical attention than they are people who need to be shot ps hot karl, your twitter link was already posted top of page, rtft mate
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Stop getting horny guys A family member did a tour with NATO and apparently it's kind of a constant talking point among all the non-US nationals that porn is frowned upon everywhere except in the American camp where it's both sanctioned and subsidized. C/D, anyone?
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Mr. Nice! posted:In Florida "A law enforcement officer, including a police officer, has a legal duty to provide aid to ill, injured, and distressed persons who are not in police custody during an emergency whether the law enforcement officer is on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity off-duty." Further, "A law enforcement officer rendering emergency aid to ill, injured, or distressed persons on-duty or acting in a law enforcement capacity while off-duty is acting within the scope of his or her employment" and is thus shielded from liability. Well, the cop handcuffed him so clearly he's in custody now. 
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I have some really bad news for you guys about how well cops are medically trained and equipped
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Smiling Jack posted:I have some really bad news for you guys about how well cops are medically trained and equipped I know the answer is none at all. And the law only requires aid up to their level of competence, so it's partially by design. I agree with KFFF that they should be at least EMT basic level trained with a moderate first aid kit. I know in most places firefighters are also EMT certified and there's really no good reason for police to not be as well.
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I think it would be a good idea but lol at trying to convince a bunch of old gently caress brass to spend money on it.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:we need the money for another APC, can't afford EMT certification sorry More like "We need to spend a gazillion dollars on ShotSpotter"
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ZombieApostate posted:Well, the cop handcuffed him so clearly he's in custody now. I was about to point that out. How "in custody" is interpreted has a lot of bearing on how that plays out. Anyone the cops shoot is probably going to be in custody immediately. ReebTop posted:if they aren't supposed to help because "what if I get sued," why did that one cop glove up right before the EMS crews were arriving?
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Woof Blitzer posted:I think it would be a good idea but lol at trying to convince a bunch of old gently caress brass to spend money on it. Oh yeah it would absolutely have to be mandated and funded for it to work at all and just  at that.
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Woof Blitzer posted:More like "We need to spend a gazillion dollars on ShotSpotter" Does that thing work? They were touting it for a while around Minneapolis, but I don't hear much about it now which makes me suspect that it's garbage.
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Smiling Jack posted:I have some really bad news for you guys about how well cops are trained fixed
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Zeroisanumber posted:Does that thing work? They were touting it for a while around Minneapolis, but I don't hear much about it now which makes me suspect that it's garbage. 100% ripoff
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Smiling Jack posted:I have some really bad news for you guys about how well cops are medically trained and equipped I hear batons are good for fixing bad attitudes.
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