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Svartvit posted:A family member did a tour with NATO and apparently it's kind of a constant talking point among all the non-US nationals that porn is frowned upon everywhere except in the American camp where it's both sanctioned and subsidized. C/D, anyone? In warzones it's strictly forbidden for Americans. Everyone (and I mean *everyone*) breaks that rule, but it is codified. Just means that, at bigger bases with higher ranking officers, the Americans keep it on the downlow. I can't speak for anybody else, but the British were the deployment porn champs back in the day. I was a commo technician, so I spent a fair amount of time in allied nations' compounds fixing their networks. In TYOL 2009, when the Americans were furtively passing around USB drives of porn, the RAF guys decorated their offices with the skankiest porn mags imaginable. Woods porn quality, not even glossy pages. Quantity over quality. They had porn mags big enough to be used as doorstops. They also had their own bar and didn't ration beer the way we did. I can only assume being in the Royal Air Force rules.
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Arc Light posted:In warzones it's strictly forbidden for Americans. Everyone (and I mean *everyone*) breaks that rule, but it is codified. Just means that, at bigger bases with higher ranking officers, the Americans keep it on the downlow. Yeah those old british skin mags had a really big format. Great stuff.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I know in most places firefighters are also EMT certified and there's really no good reason for police to not be as well.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I was about to point that out. How "in custody" is interpreted has a lot of bearing on how that plays out. Anyone the cops shoot is probably going to be in custody immediately. A dude bleeding out crying on the ground is not in custody. Also the only reason that custody is mentioned is that the question proposed for the advisory opinion specified out of custody. "1. Does a law enforcement officer have a legal duty to provide aid to ill, injured, and distressed persons, who are not in police custody, during an emergency?" The answer is yes police officers on or off the clock have a duty to provide aid up to their level of competence. An officer absolutely has a duty of care to aid someone that is in custody. This was never in question. Once again, though, it is only up to their level of competence.
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Whoever is the rear end in a top hat that started banning porn and booze in the US military needs to be shot or if they're already dead we need to go piss on their grave and then drop a deuce on it.
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Mike-o posted:Whoever is the rear end in a top hat that started banning porn and booze in the US military needs to be shot or if they're already dead we need to go piss on their grave and then drop a deuce on it. Make sure to film or photograph to maximize irony. Irony probably is the wrong word but whatever.
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Training is really expensive. Not only do you have to pay for the training, pay the cop at training, you also need to pay someone to cover the shift of the cop who is at training. Plus, you know, most cities have dedicated EMS services so it would be kinda redundant. I'd settle for a limited "how to treat a gunshot / heavy bleeder" course which we are starting to get on a random and arbitrary basis.
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Mr. Nice! posted:A dude bleeding out crying on the ground is not in custody.
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Smiling Jack posted:Training is really expensive. Not only do you have to pay for the training, pay the cop at training, you also need to pay someone to cover the shift of the cop who is at training. No you're right. I mean it's not like every person in the US military undergoes basic yearly training on how to provide first aid to someone who's been shot. Oh wait.
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psydude posted:No you're right. I mean it's not like every person in the US military undergoes basic yearly training on how to provide first aid to someone who's been shot. I like the part where police here are held to a lower standard than I was during the invasion days of Iraq doing traffic control points and raiding buildings looking for that fucker that kept shooting at us on the road. I mean we didn't have to stop and render aid to the places we fired 155 HE on but we did try to keep looting, rioting and other chaos to a minimum. If we brought someone in they had to be treated. Then again I live in Albuquerque where you can shoot a hobo with a knife while is back is turned. On the other hand someone did vandalize that Shia Lebouf thing the moment it went up. http://krqe.com/2017/02/21/vandals-tag-anti-trump-art-exhibit-in-downtown-albuquerque/
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  This is your life now, Mattis.
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Smiling Jack posted:Training is really expensive. Not only do you have to pay for the training, pay the cop at training, you also need to pay someone to cover the shift of the cop who is at training. should probably be covered in the academy, then have yearly refresher courses when not on duty. tourniquets or even simple pressure dressing to help mitigate some dude from bleeding out while you wait for the paramedics. maybe some more legal protection from being sued for rendering aid as well?
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psydude posted:No you're right. I mean it's not like every person in the US military undergoes basic yearly training on how to provide first aid to someone who's been shot. Most places don't pay for firearms refresher training Just FYI Also don't you guys go in cycles, train for deployment, deploy, return from deployment? Cops only get the middle part. Bluntly, most places don't want to pay for training. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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LingcodKilla posted:I watched the video with a critical eye and it was bit disturbing bringing out the wallet at the level a gun being tucked in to shoot at a close range would typically be. THAT said, I have no idea why the officer already had his gun out for a minor accident. Like holy gently caress cowboy calm down. This. Also, I can understand some of the delay in medical treatment, at least until another officer showed up. Step one is securing the scene, not providing first aid. However, once they determined nobody was hiding in the vehicle and that the dude was not a threat, there's no loving excuse for the next 3-4 minutes of him lying there bleeding as they stand around with their thumbs up their asses. That said, he was goddamned FAST on the trigger. He must've already had his gun out...I don't get that, either.
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A Handed Missus posted:
Was about to post this. Just look at how McMaster has to turn away from that condescending pat.
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ahh that vet had it comin! I for one am glad Deputy Farva was able to secure the scene so effectively. Once the police arrive at a traffic accident you better stop what your doing and get your loving HANDS IN THE AIR DO NOT MOVE SHOW ME SOME HANDS lol this country is loving retarded Edit: Deputy Farva is a pussy and a retard. I hope they break him like private gomer pile and he eats his pistol
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Smiling Jack posted:Most places don't pay for firearms refresher training see my superslam dunk of your post on the last page. its pretty widely known that cops are poorly trained. this should be rectified
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:see my superslam dunk of your post on the last page. its pretty widely known that cops are poorly trained. this should be rectified Hire more special forces retirees. It's practically the same thing right?
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:should probably be covered in the academy, then have yearly refresher courses when not on duty. tourniquets or even simple pressure dressing to help mitigate some dude from bleeding out while you wait for the paramedics. maybe some more legal protection from being sued for rendering aid as well? I'm almost certain that laws of most states will mirror Florida's because most of it is based on the common law peace officer duties of a sheriff. They are likely required to render aid up to their level of competence in most jurisdictions nationwide and covered from suit because it is in the line of duty. Getting sued isn't why the cop doesn't help the guy he just ventilated.
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id argue that military service should automatically disqualify you from being a cop
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you shouldnt shoot a guy holding a wallet which is the precursor to stopping them from bleeding so if we train them to stop shooting people holding wallets we can save money and not have to train them to treat the people they shot for holding a wallet..
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:id argue that military service should automatically disqualify you from being a cop I would agree for combat MOS's. It's not the same mindset at all. Not that some/most people cant make the change.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:id argue that military service should automatically disqualify you from being a cop Now you're going to be stuck with the guys that couldn't even get the ASVAB waiver. Congrats.
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Godholio posted:Now you're going to be stuck with the guys that couldn't even get the ASVAB waiver. Congrats. How about we raise taxes in the short term to hire better candidates, and pass the savings on when the city/county/state isn't sued by the bereaved family of a man who was shot due to sheer incompetence?
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Kawasaki Nun posted:How about we raise taxes in the short term to hire better candidates, and pass the savings on when the city/county/state isn't sued by the bereaved family of a man who was shot due to sheer incompetence? Because we need a loving wall and more bombs to kill browns duh.
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Pretty certain you spend more time at barber college than a police academy and barbers aren't often recruiting from military dudes either
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Kawasaki Nun posted:How about we raise taxes lol
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Kawasaki Nun posted:How about we raise taxes in the short term to hire better candidates  Yeah, raise taxes.quote:pass the savings on when the city/county/state isn't sued by the bereaved family of a man who was shot due to sheer incompetence? I don't think you'd see as much of a decrease from the shift in sheer incompetence as you're expecting.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Pretty certain you spend more time at barber college than a police academy and barbers aren't often recruiting from military dudes either I knew a guy who intentionally joined the Navy to get whatever rate it was to cut hair so he could save up money to go to barber school and buy a shop after the service. Dude really like to cut hair. I hope his hair brain scheme works out.
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LingcodKilla posted:I knew a guy who intentionally joined the Navy to get whatever rate it was to cut hair so he could save up money to go to barber school and buy a shop after the service. it sounds like he did it right, good for him
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imagine how much money the government would save if they didn't pay for poo poo like contractors mowing the lawn in the dead of winter when the grass isn't growing anyway
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fukken https://twitter.com/wpjenna/status/841790710600876032 lol https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/841789867659014144 Shame about Mattis though. Nobody will survive with their dignity/reputation intact.
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Whatever I'm gonna get uncle sam to pay for my combined American/Canadian legal education and the peace the gently caress out to Toronto
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LingcodKilla posted:I knew a guy who intentionally joined the Navy to get whatever rate it was to cut hair so he could save up money to go to barber school and buy a shop after the service. Semper Fi (or the navy equivalent) o7
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facialimpediment posted:Shame about Mattis though. Nobody will survive with their dignity/reputation intact. Not that anyone gives a gently caress about my opinion, but I respect Mattis for taking one for the team. Someone has to be the adult supervision.
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MRC48B posted:Not that anyone gives a gently caress about my opinion, but I respect Mattis for taking one for the team. Someone has to be the adult supervision. "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." Mattis. 
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quote:“Trump figures things out pretty quickly and I think he’s figuring out this situation, how the House Republicans did him a disservice,” said Christopher Ruddy, a longtime Trump friend. “President Trump is a big picture, pragmatic Republican and unfortunately the Ryan Republican plan doesn’t capture his worldview.” 
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A Handed Missus posted:
trump treading dangerous ground here maddog posted:I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you gently caress with me, I’ll kill you all.
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I love how every single time Trumpy mentions Mattis he has to say "general, now secretary Mattis"
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LingcodKilla posted:I knew a guy who intentionally joined the Navy to get whatever rate it was to cut hair so he could save up money to go to barber school and buy a shop after the service. I knew a guy like that except culinary school and CS. Made the best drat french toast I've ever had.
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