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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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haakman
May 5, 2011

big scary monsters posted:

Nidderdale would in fact be ideal then!

I get this joke because I had an ex girlfriend from Glasshouses.

Thanks for bringing up those memories, you monster.

1980 - Tito dies and Uncle Joe finally gets his wish.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Pissflaps posted:

Is it Tony Blair's fault?
I blame Laura Kuennsberg

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Pochoclo posted:

They are, indeed, -that- loving incompetent. It's not some kind of ten-dimensional chess to avert Brexit. Brexit is happening and let's hope they can make it work somehow because otherwise a lot of people will suffer.
It just blows my mind that its been nearly a year since the Brexit vote happened, and the people who are supposed to be moving us through this disaster seemingly haven't even started doing their homework. Its plainly obvious that Davis was trying to blag his way past those MPs because he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Any Brum based goons here?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

feedmegin posted:

I've noted this a lot from my own Lib Dem friends, actually. Like, you guys want to say you're the real opposition? How about saying nasty stuff about the guys you were in coalition with for 2 years rather than having 90% of your tweets be about Labour.

Tim Farron was just asked about the U-turn and his second sentence was about Corbyn, PMQs and the weakness of Labour. He genuinely seemed disappointed he kept being asked about the government instead.

The Lib Dems dont want to oppose the Tories, they want to oppose the opposition. They need to remain on good terms with the Tories for when they coalition with them again.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


feedmegin posted:

I've noted this a lot from my own Lib Dem friends

:sever: for your own good

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
"Haha Labour debt 500 billion"

"Yes okay but how is the country going to work after Brexit?"

"Corbyn bad"

"What kind of tr-"

"Corbyn"

"Stop-"

"Corbyn bad"

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
perhaps you could break this cycle by putting its key element out to pasture

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Jippa posted:

Corbs is getting roasted on twitter.
was he drizzled in honey, could be quite tasty

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

LemonDrizzle posted:

perhaps you could break this cycle by putting its key element out to pasture

Is it time for another stirring round of "Who would replace Corbyn", "Anyone", "Please specify", "Anyone", etc etc?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

LemonDrizzle posted:

perhaps you could break this cycle by putting its key element out to pasture

It would be the same regardless of who was in charge of Labour unless they were willing to capitulate fully to a press that are openly fascist.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
LMAO holy poo poo, so now Corbyn is even responsible for the Lib Dems being useless apparently

What are some actual Lib Dem policies for how to fix the country, other than

1. Remain in the EU somehow
2. ...
3. that's it

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pochoclo posted:

"Haha Labour debt 500 billion"

"Yes okay but how is the country going to work after Brexit?"

"Corbyn bad"

"What kind of tr-"

"Corbyn"

"Stop-"

"Corbyn bad"

it does explain tintower's posting

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


LemonDrizzle posted:

perhaps you could break this cycle by putting its key element out to pasture

I'm ready & willing to listen to consider replacements and have been for a while, but 1997, untainted, inspirational, all the hopes in the country on his shoulders Tony Blair would struggle to win in 2020. Needless to say there is nobody with that degree of slickness in the current PLP. But hey, if you can find a candidate who'll run on a genuine left of centre platform, with the intention of devolving more power to the membership and local CLPs who would run against Corbyn, I'd welcome them.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

LemonDrizzle posted:

perhaps you could break this cycle by putting its key element out to pasture
Who would replace the Lib Dems though?

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Ratjaculation posted:

Any Brum based goons here?

A couple, what's up?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Who would replace the Lib Dems though?

Do we need to replace them?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Guavanaut posted:

Who would replace the Lib Dems though?

If the coalition and 2015 GE taught us anything it's that Lib Dems are indistinguishably replaced by Tories.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Jose posted:

it does explain tintower's posting

Nah

It didn't mention Momentum anywhere

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Guavanaut posted:

Who would replace the Lib Dems though?

A cardboard cutout of Nick Clegg would do the job ably.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Whatever happened to forging an alliance with the Lib Dems come next election

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

kustomkarkommando posted:

Whatever happened to forging an alliance with the Lib Dems come next election

I'm sure May's keeping it in mind.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


spectralent posted:

Is it time for another stirring round of "Who would replace Corbyn", "Anyone", "Please specify", "Anyone", etc etc?

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/842000077115781120

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Dabir posted:

I'm sure May's keeping it in mind.

Is Clive Lewis a Tory sellout for proposing it

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

kustomkarkommando posted:

Well it looks like the options will be a lovely deal or no deal and WTO standards, so that way the Tories can insist their crappy deal is still not the worst option

Actually I think you'll find that "no deal for Britain is better than a bad deal".

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


kustomkarkommando posted:

Whatever happened to forging an alliance with the Lib Dems come next election

I can't see Labour getting close enough to a majority that they'd need the help of the Liberals dozen or so MPs to push them over the line. A coalition with the Nats from N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland would be far more viable & frankly even that looks like fantasy poo poo.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

kustomkarkommando posted:

Is Clive Lewis a Tory sellout for proposing it

Nah, he's not the only one to have mentioned it. A whole of people in the Labour party are much less enthusiastic about the idea than they might have been in 2010 though, for obvious reasons, especially since at this point it's not clear *at all* what the Lib Dems would want or do as a coalition partner.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

kustomkarkommando posted:

Is Clive Lewis a Tory sellout for proposing it

I mean if he wants to adopt the Tory policy of putting the lib dems in a gimp suit and riding them around the commons before nicking all their voters I wouldn't complain.

I wouldn't suggest actually listening or trying to co-operate with them though.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

OwlFancier posted:

I mean if he wants to adopt the Tory policy of putting the lib dems in a gimp suit and riding them around the commons before nicking all their voters I wouldn't complain.

I wouldn't suggest actually listening or trying to co-operate with them though.

Turns out Tim Farron was just playing the long game to get in a dom/sub relationship with Theresa May

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.



It's true though, land isn't exactly scarce so that part doesn't matter, VF glasshouses aren't actually cheaper to build (the opposite in fact) and any savings on transport costs are entirely negated by the much higher energy requirements for actually growing the bloody plants. Plus it kinda works against the reason why you are building the glasshouses in the first place, that is using solar energy to cut down on energy requirements.

A typical vertical farming concept (GIS for vertical farming):


Slightly less fanciful one:


Pictured, not a vertical farm (Thanet Earth+):



I'll shut up about it now.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I mean if he wants to adopt the Tory policy of putting the lib dems in a gimp suit and riding them around the commons before nicking all their voters I wouldn't complain.

I wouldn't suggest actually listening or trying to co-operate with them though.
They're alright on civil liberties, they just don't seem to push anything past the 'maybe there should be a royal commission that gets ignored' phase.

Put one of the crusty sandal wearing ones in Home.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

OwlFancier posted:

Do we need to replace them?

Labour are trying their best to.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Private Speech posted:

It's still cheaper to spread it out so that you can utilise more natural sunlight, as evidenced by climate-controlled commercial glasshouses actually being A Thing in lots of places in Northern Europe, while vertical farming has a few experiments worldwide at best.


Dutch winter tomatoes grown on a large commercial scale..
Somehow they aren't even prohibitively expensive.

Hell this is how my parents make a living since the 1970s, except they shut down during the winter, the long sun hours during summer help.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Anybody following the racing at Cheltenham?

It is almost like a holiday week up here.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
We should all just have allotments.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
End the enclosure system and open up the Commons. A return to feudal communalism.

I pledge my allegiance to Voivode Oberleutnant.

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

Have said before Labour could be run by a Potato and they would have a higher vote share. Corbyn is colossally toxic and his shambolic performance today will unfortunately be one of the things he is remembered for when he final does go.

Also for farming in greenhouses, its the way its been done for Salad crops for decades and its shockingly cheap to do now per acre, issue is though that polytunnels and greenhouses require planning permission so can be a git to get started, depending on your local council of course.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Yvette Cooper for head of the party? Yes? No?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jBrereton posted:

Yvette Cooper for head of the party? Yes? No?

Leagues ahead of what we have now. Big Yes from me.

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Yes to Yettes

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