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Nipponophile posted:No way, Akko's character screams plucky working-class underdog. It's way more likely that Luna Nova began to act on their waning enrollment far too late, and by the time they opened their doors to those outside the tradition, the rest of the world had lost interest in magic except for one particular die-hard Shiny Chariot fanatic. Indeed. I liked the Akko-is-loaded fan theory because I thought it was funny and interesting and could make for some interesting commentary, but that's not really the type of story LWA is telling. Just as I don't seriously think LWA is a critique of the British educational system through the medium of magical school fiction, which is a shame because that show would've been hilarious, but really not the kind of thing Trigger is equipped to tell regardless of how talented they are. Very fun to make jokes about Ofsted though.
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I'm kind of sad we're getting bog-standard romance stuff with Andrew and Akko.
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Command Ant posted:That Akira reference with Lotte really caught me off guard. I just finished binge watching all ten eps and this was the part that stuck out to me the most (probably because I just watched Akira again a few days ago.) That episode was so drat good. I can't even imagine the number of references in there total. I counted Dexter's Lab, Akira, Spirited Away, Sleeping Beauty, and the early animation stuff. I'm sure there were a lot more. I agree I'd like to see things move a little faster, mostly with Ursula's Worst Kept Secret, but this is definitely just as good as a series as it was in the films.
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El Burbo posted:At least there was the one scene that shows Sucy really treasures meeting Akko It's sickeningly sweet- particularly if you realize that the interpretation of Sucy's goofy memories of Akko is that Sucy thinks she's a hoot.
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I liked that the part with Akko telling Andrew to stop being a knob and follow his dreams instead of being Dad 2.0 was good because it shows that Akko isn't always a ditz who gets in over her head.
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Alfalfa The Roach posted:I'm the mouse cursor on Diana's necklace
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I liked that the part with Akko telling Andrew to stop being a knob and follow his dreams instead of being Dad 2.0 was good because it shows that Akko isn't always a ditz who gets in over her head.
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The seeming insistence of Trigger on loving with the shippers is probably one of the better things about the show.
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Aurora posted:I'm kind of sad we're getting bog-standard romance stuff with Andrew and Akko. It'd be a cool swerve if it heads down that way but resolves in a surprising way, like Akko turning him down or them getting together relatively soon and having an actual relationship throughout the second half. I too will be a little disappointed if it plays out purely by the numbers, but that's half just wanting something different from anime romance and half expecting something different because it's Trigger.
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Roth posted:My favorite part of the episode was Frank taking a genuine interest in Lotte. That was pretty cute. DrSunshine posted:The whole episode was super cute. Frank being into Lotte, the girls' frilly Cinderella dresses, and that "Eeep! I also love that Not Chumlee is now a decent recurring character. Axel Serenity posted:I agree I'd like to see things move a little faster, mostly with Ursula's Worst Kept Secret, but this is definitely just as good as a series as it was in the films.
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" sound that Akko made everytime someone fell in fake-love with her.
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i forgot the other best part of this ep: every time akko did her little non-scream
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the best part of this episode is sucy this is also the best part of every other episode
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Rodyle posted:the best part of this episode is sucy "You're so fun to mess with, Akko! Kihihihi!"
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TFRazorsaw posted:why are they friends I don't know about you, but the people I mess the most with are my friends.
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hoobajoo posted:It'd be a cool swerve if it heads down that way but resolves in a surprising way, like Akko turning him down or them getting together relatively soon and having an actual relationship throughout the second half. I too will be a little disappointed if it plays out purely by the numbers, but that's half just wanting something different from anime romance and half expecting something different because it's Trigger. You know, if this anime moved at Kill la Kill speed, they'd be divorced by now.
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Ragnar34 posted:You know, if this anime moved at Kill la Kill speed, they'd be divorced by now. But if it moved at Luluco speeds, Akko would have become the greatest of a new generation of witches, died, resurrected herself in the past to inspire Shiny Chariot in the first place, before being stopped by Sucy, now revealed as the secret founder of Luna Nova, whose secret plan revolves around turning Andrew into a puppet prime minister, impossible with a public so well aware of magic. The duel between Akko and Sucy would only be stopped by Constanze revealing she built the entire school into a robot just to counter such an event. And in the second episode...
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TFRazorsaw posted:why are they friends It's a friendship built on a mutual love of crime.
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Oh also Maleficent Sucy was God-drat amazing. I love how she just glided across the screen, hunched over
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Someone I know is saying that LWA takes zero inspiration from Harry Potter. As I have next to no functional knowledge of Harry Potter, allow me to ask the thread: On a scale of 1-10, how inspired do you think LWA was by Harry Potter. I'd like to know so I can try to ascertain if this person is the only person on earth who thinks this or if there are others who somehow think LWA isn't HP as all hell. (because it quite obviously is)
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Someone I know is saying that LWA takes zero inspiration from Harry Potter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpMhz8nPPTI
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Someone I know is saying that LWA takes zero inspiration from Harry Potter. You can make a compelling argument that it owes a lot more to The Worst Witch, at least, though there's definitely some visual inspiration from the HP films (Professor Finneran in particular has an unmistakable touch of Alan Rickman to her).
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I think this registers around 8 Darth Walrus posted:You can make a compelling argument that it owes a lot more to The Worst Witch, at least, though there's definitely some visual inspiration from the HP films (Professor Finneran in particular has an unmistakable touch of Alan Rickman to her). this is probably around a 5 I miss Alan Rickman 
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There's obviously some inspiration there, it's a British high school for magic, but I don't think the similarity goes way beyond that and HP didn't invent it. HP doesn't have any of this show's subtext about the uselessness of magic, and this show doesn't have any of (later) HP's subtext about racism and classism. Even ignoring the thematic level, this show doesn't have an overarching villain (so far) or a hero fated to withstand him. In fact they don't even seem to have a concept of "black magic", for all that necromancy is forbidden our heroes just lately resurrected a corpse for a gag episode. I'd say it's like a 3 or 4 out of ten.
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"Loliconics"
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Ironically (since HP was compared to this a lot, and incorrectly) LWA is more like Earthsea than Harry Potter.
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Seriously, read through this. There's some pretty striking similarities. In particular, the main trio owe a lot more to Mildred, Maud, and Enid than they do to Harry, Ron, and Hermione.
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Darth Walrus posted:Seriously, read through this. There's some pretty striking similarities. In particular, the main trio owe a lot more to Mildred, Maud, and Enid than they do to Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Akko is no Mildred. Mildred is simply clumsy, and just wants to be a normal, average witch. Ethel is a genuinely nasty person who is the antagonist in the series. Like I said, Akko is more like Ged from Earthsea, someone who wants to fast track to Greatest Wizard but is undermined by their childishness.
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Akko has shown zero aptitude for magic except for speaking fish.
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Fangz posted:Akko is no Mildred. Mildred is simply clumsy, and just wants to be a normal, average witch. Ethel is a genuinely nasty person who is the antagonist in the series. Enid Nightshade, not Ethel Hallow. Diana is a (much) more sympathetic spin on Ethel.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Akko has shown zero aptitude for magic except for speaking fish. Being chosen by the Shiny staff is pretty significant. Like Ursula puts it, she mainly falls down because she's being compared to the other students who have been doing this for years and years, but knowing she literally knew no magic a few months ago, being able to throw out repair magic, transformation magic, trigger the cinderella artifact without a hitch, (accidentally) raise the dead... those are significant things. Darth Walrus posted:Enid Nightshade, not Ethel Hallow. Diana is a (much) more sympathetic spin on Ethel. My point is that Diana isn't much like Ethel at all. The Worst Witch books are basically driven by Ethel's emnity.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Akko has shown zero aptitude for magic except for speaking fish. Maybe LWA is based on Dune Earthsea is a huge stretch though imo. LWA doesn't take place in a secondary world or propose premodern civilizations where magic is widespread. And Akko is DEFINITELY no Ged.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Akko has shown zero aptitude for magic except for speaking fish. She's definitely getting better judging by how she didn't gently caress up the transformation spell like the last episode with Andrew. Akko started learning magic from zero whereas the rest of the school probably had at least some amount of magical exposure and training
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Anyway, regardless of how we interpret Akko, I think we can probably agree the school is way more The School of Magic at Roke than either Hogwarts or Miss Cackle's Academy for Witches?quote:"Roke is no longer where the power is in Earthsea. That's the Court in Havnor, now. Roke lives on its great past, defended by a thousand spells against the present day. And inside those spell-walls, what is there? Quarreling ambitions, fear of anything new, fear of young men who challenge the power of the old. And at the center, nothing. An empty courtyard. The Archmage will never return" Fangz fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Fangz posted:Being chosen by the Shiny staff is pretty significant. Like Ursula puts it, she mainly falls down because she's being compared to the other students who have been doing this for years and years, but knowing she literally knew no magic a few months ago, being able to throw out repair magic, transformation magic, trigger the cinderella artifact without a hitch, (accidentally) raise the dead... those are significant things. Being the chosen one is much more like being Harry than anything else. Harry, in fact was not really terribly good at much magic except for flying a broom. His grades were always below average in most classes and was thrown into the wizarding world at a much later age than all of his classmates. He was only comparable to the rest of the wizards and witches because he had his unusually powerful artifacts like the sword, phoenix wand (comparable to the staff Akko gets) , and a couple of teachers who would surreptitiously bail him out from time to time (Snape/Dumbledore/Ursula).
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I compared LWA with HP in what if HP didn't have Voldemort and Harry got to live a happy life with his still alive parents but still got on adventures with Ron and Hermione.Nitrousoxide posted:Being the chosen one is much more like being Harry than anything else. Harry, in fact was not really terribly good at much magic except for flying a broom. His grades were always below average in most classes and was thrown into the wizarding world at a much later age than all of his classmates. He was only comparable to the rest of the wizards and witches because he had his unusually powerful artifacts like the sword, phoenix wand (comparable to the staff Akko gets) , and a couple of teachers who would surreptitiously bail him out from time to time (Snape/Dumbledore/Ursula). Not completely accurate, there are some plot important "difficult" spells that only Harry shows aptitude for (Patronus); and Harry comes off as really good at passing his knowledge back to his classmates (Dumbledore's Army). Then also if he's taught correctly he's very quick to pick up difficult spells/potions like from Snape's notebook.
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