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Bernie's sanctioning fees are pretty much the entire reason why most of the great old tracks people want to see on the calendar have been replaced by Baku and Bahrain and poo poo.
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Get rid of Baku, Sochi, and Bahrain imo. Put the Euro GP in Imola and add two street circuits somewhere.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 20:58 |
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We can only long to see "Well done Brands Hatch" or "Watkins Glen welcomed us"
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 20:58 |
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Bring back Korea if Sepang is really dropping out
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:04 |
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/azerbaijan-gp-boss-hits-out-at-ignorant-liberty-criticism-883054/ posted:"Frankly Bernie's attitude was, 'How much can I extract from them?' I heard him call them the victims! 'How much can I extract, how much up front?' That was locker room talk
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:05 |
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wicka posted:
As I see it, here is Liberty's business model 1) Reduce Sanctioning fees (and revenue) so tracks can afford to have races without going bankrupt 2) Put more videos on Youtube/InstaSnapwhatever. 3) ???? 4) Profit.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:10 |
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daslog posted:As I see it, here is Liberty's business model Nobody knows what their business model is yet other than them saying "We'd like the people who do business with us to not hate us for loving them raw."
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:12 |
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CratSock posted:I'd love to see something like this happen, and work in practice too. Whether it's fuel flow, RPM, or additional battery power. Unfortunately, I still think the teams would manage to "optimize" things with fascinating unseen simulations and calculations and the reality wouldn't be as dynamic a result as we all hope for. It would just give the teams more doohickeys to ruin. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113141
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:16 |
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daslog posted:As I see it, here is Liberty's business model Step 3 is people watching the sport
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:31 |
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Alain Post posted:Bring Back Bernie
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:32 |
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Khablam posted:Step 3 is people watching the sport
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:32 |
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Waiting for Tony to take someone's post super serious and post a large essay about it
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:33 |
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It's really going to fun to watch when Tony and LC finally mix it up and go head to head in serious long essay post arguing.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:39 |
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Khablam posted:Step 3 is people watching the sport Alternatively, some better on track product. 2016 was an improvement over the previous year so it's a good trajectory to follow. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Nah, either his posts are so wildly wrong that they don't need arguing over, or I've chilled out. I suspect the former.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:44 |
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Powershift posted:They might even try concepts un-tested in the bernie era like marketing and ad sales. This is pointless. There are two kinds of people: those who know what F1 is and whether they enjoy it and those who live in places like America, who would ruin the sport immediately if they started watching. If you want to make F1 more popular, start by addressing the problem of having so many bad German drivers who cheat without punishment. Can you imagine being new to the sport and doing research on it, and then you find out that the current WDC is Nico Rosberg*? Who would watch that? poty fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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poty posted:so many bad German drivers who cheat without punishment.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 22:01 |
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You guys are going to be so sad when Max Verstappen gets a wdc
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 22:07 |
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Norns posted:You guys are going to be so sad when Max Verstappen gets a wdc I've lived through 12 fraudulent German WDC wins I can cope with one Dutch one
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 22:09 |
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learnincurve posted:Nah, either his posts are so wildly wrong that they don't need arguing over, or I've chilled out. I suspect the former. Bullshit. Calling you out as full of poo poo
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Norns posted:You guys are going to be so sad when Max Verstappen gets a wdc I will be whatever the opposite of sad is, I forget the word, it's been a while
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 22:14 |
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daslog posted:As I see it, here is Liberty's business model I sincerely believe this is the stupidest poo poo this thread has yet produced.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 22:39 |
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wicka posted:Lmao, Liberty called out Baku for being a pointless GP that was only held for the entrance fee: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/azerbaijan-gp-boss-hits-out-at-ignorant-liberty-criticism-883054/
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 23:19 |
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WE'RE DONE BAKU
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:00 |
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Meanwhile in NASCAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jwTw3wVbaA Even hockey would penalize this....
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:09 |
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Nascar fist fights are the dumbest poo poo on earth
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:16 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Meanwhile in NASCAR: Two of the biggest drilldos in NASCAR
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:16 |
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wicka posted:I sincerely believe this is the stupidest poo poo this thread has yet produced. I'm confused about #1 myself. Is that a bad thing?
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:25 |
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Human Grand Prix posted:I'm confused about #1 myself. Is that a bad thing? I'm fascinated by the implication that F1 should generate a significant chunk of its revenue by charging sanctioning fees so high that it's literally impossible to profitably host a race.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:32 |
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Yeah honestly that's gotta be one of the biggest things wrong with F1
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:37 |
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F1 simply needs to purchase Taylor Swift and have her perform at every race problem solved
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:39 |
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If Liberty is smart enough to realize that ramming 80 million ad breaks into the race isn't the way to go and they produce a legit steaming service ala MotoGP then I'll line up to blow their board of execs. If they help make it financially viable for historic tracks to be financially viable to the point where they can even drop their ticket prices so we have actual people in the crowds again then they can have my rear end as well.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:54 |
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wicka posted:I sincerely believe this is the stupidest poo poo this thread has yet produced. But it makes perfect sense as long as you're aware Azerbaijian pays third party agents to promote the Azeri brand throughout the world and to mask every awful thing about the nation.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 00:59 |
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Just hosting other poo poo at the events so the venue can make more money from fans and non-fans alike is cool and good. More people should do what Austin did.
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Carth Dookie posted:If Liberty is smart enough to realize that ramming 80 million ad breaks into the race isn't the way to go and they produce a legit steaming service ala MotoGP then I'll line up to blow their board of execs. if Liberty enables me to ditch my expensive Foxtel package I have just for F1 and instead just have an online subscription, this would be very excellent. I don't know if I want that though, because the audio and video quality through Foxtel is amazing and I don't mind paying when it's that good. It would frustrate me if the online service was any less than 1080p and Dolby mixed 5.1. After you're used to the commentary coming from the center and engine noise from the fronts, or when you're watching onboard camera the engine noise coming from the rears (so you actually hear the engine behind you) it's hard to go back. Khablam posted:Just hosting other poo poo at the events so the venue can make more money from fans and non-fans alike is cool and good. There always used to be a concert in Adelaide. I don't think I ever went, I was usually over the venue by that time because I've actually been there watching the racing, but I'm all for even more of a traveling circus type thing. Melbourne is pretty great, in the middle there are motocross dudes pulling backflips and having 'expression sessions', a zillion car displays from super modern sportcars to poo poo like Alan Jones's Championship winning Williams sitting on a tarp for you to walk up to and swear at how loving unsafe the thing looks. There is always a flyover by the Australian Air Force fighters and then something big, a 747 or A380. First time I took my current girl to the race she had never been and I'd forgotten about the fighters because it had been a while. We were sitting in the grandstands and I saw the little dot way off in the distance and remembered and realized this was going to be amazing. She had no idea and the drat thing is going so fast that it's past before the sound caught up.. so like ZOOM and she is like wtf.. then BLLLLAAAAAMMMM. Literally dropped her drink and screamed. Best times. Tony Montana fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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I watch F1 on the Foxtel Go app and I honestly don't miss watching it on ordinary TV. I have NBN though so your mileage may vary.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 01:14 |
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Do you have an iQ box at home? Just the set and forget, I did it last night, told the box to record every race and quali session, that show called the Inside Line which looks like an import from Europe and is really good and a couple of other interesting looking F1 things. I'm done for 2017, I don't have to think about it anymore, everytime there is anything happening in F1 it's waiting for me on the box if I don't watch it live. Makes the late night sessions so easy. I still pay like 80 bucks a month or something for this which would make more sense if I watched anything else on it, but if I'm not watching F1 on Foxtel then I'll just switch to Netflix because gently caress ads. yeah, I got Telstra cable at 120 megabit down. Live in inner Melbourne, Internet is great here.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 01:20 |
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I don't have iQ so I tend to miss the American rounds. My parents are the ones with the sub, they just gave me one of their foxtel Go accesses since they don't use it.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 01:22 |
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Ugh, so I've left it late as poo poo. I'll be honest, we had a fight and called it all off and then made up and now we're both realizing we're going to miss the new cars and that sucks. So, I'm ebaying tickets.. this dude has asked a thousand bucks for these two sets It's not a bad deal. That GP Advantage I think is the membership program you pay to be part of so you get dibs on the good tickets each year. The roaming grandstand is sweet, and Jones section B for race day is literally right on corner one. Probably the best seat in the house for corner one, which is always pretty cool. I can get the time off for Thurs and Fri but my partner cant, so we'll probably pass on these as someone else gave us Sat tickets and we might just buy a Sunday ticket instead. If any other Melbournites/Aussies want to buy the above tickets, let me know and I'll put you in touch with the guy. Tony Montana fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Make sure to wear your Ferrari shoes.
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