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Poops Mcgoots posted:The only fair way to name someone as gaming's Roger Ebert is to match him 1:1. So, which reviewer hates movies the most?
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Looper posted:but those are good examples of video game literacy in the context of those genres! i think, i don't actually know what either of them are, which is why i don't feel comfortable discussing those kinds of games If it makes any difference I barely do. Those are terms I had to look up back when I was rolling deep in Street Fighter 4 and Strife so they were on the tip of my tongue. Here's the thing about this though: you get a hardcore fighting game guy writing reviews, he'll only be writing reviews that are really useful to other hardcore fighting game guys. I guess what I'm really saying here is that the only way to review and critique games (and indeed all art) is lots of  , not numbers. Took a long time to get there but I just don't think numbers and "objectivity" (read: trying to guess what other people will enjoy) is useful. Everyone's thoughts are legitimate, although certainly not equally useful to every individual.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:46
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New Vegas was janky as hell, having inherited that Bethesda wonkiness that's saved by the flavour and writing, I love it a lot but the "G5" part of that score is suspicious and makes me think that nothing means anything anymore
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Mar 16, 2017 20:47
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when i play final fantasy x i name tidus "tidus" but it's pronounced "tidus" rather than "tidus"
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Mar 16, 2017 20:48
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More like tedious haha
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Mar 16, 2017 20:49
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Nate RFB posted:Oh if this is the criteria then it's definitely Gerstmann because he hates everything. Pretty sure I even saw him trash Super Metroid on a stream, once. Poops is saying because Ebert loved movies but hated games, an Ebert-level game critic must love games but hate movies.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:50
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Fighting games don't really need reviews because there's only like 3 series left and everyone knows now to avoid Capcom so that leaves you with like 2 releases a year.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:50
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Jay Rust posted:More like tedious haha 
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Mar 16, 2017 20:51
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Jay Rust posted:New Vegas was janky as hell, having inherited that Bethesda wonkiness that's saved by the flavour and writing, I love it a lot but the "G5" part of that score is suspicious and makes me think that nothing means anything anymore It doesn't. I could absolutely see someone rating, for instance, the Witcher as a G2 - G5 game. That's actually what got me started down this yammering path. The dang objective number isn't objective, folks.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:51
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Theres no such thing as objectivity
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Mar 16, 2017 20:53
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Lobok posted:Poops is saying because Ebert loved movies but hated games, an Ebert-level game critic must love games but hate movies.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:53
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In Training posted:Fighting games don't really need reviews because there's only like 3 series left and everyone knows now to avoid Capcom so that leaves you with like 2 releases a year. To be honest I don't trust a video game reviewer to know how to play a e: edited for accuracy
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:If it makes any difference I barely do. Those are terms I had to look up back when I was rolling deep in Street Fighter 4 and Strife so they were on the tip of my tongue. well ideally the fighting game guy expert would also having the writing ability and self-awareness to make his reviews more easily digestible for the layperson. that's why i referenced ebert; even though he absolutely knew his poo poo regarding film all of his reviews are incredibly approachable for the non-cinephile. he was just a (n extremely knowledgeable) dude writing about movies
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Mar 16, 2017 20:54
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In Training posted:Theres no such thing as objectivity sure it is, it's those things that appear after you climb an ubisoft tower in bad open world games
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Mar 16, 2017 20:54
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 - hideo kojima
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Phantasium posted:sure it is, it's those things that appear after you climb an ubisoft tower in bad open world games :100emoji:
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Mar 16, 2017 20:56
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In don't really get why everyone is surprised by the new Mass Effect being bad. The first one was mediocre at best, the second one was utter poo poo, i didn't bother with the third one because the series was obviously getting steadily worse. What the gently caress do people except? Average-to-shite series gets even worse despite increased sales, surely the new one must be good?
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Mar 16, 2017 20:56
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bad post above me guaranteed
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Mar 16, 2017 20:57
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Lots of people liked the first two and even the third one.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:57
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bloodychill posted:bad post above me guaranteed lol
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Mar 16, 2017 20:58
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You're missing the point, Sakurazuka. People should expect the new Mass Effect game to be bad because internet poster spudsbuckley hates the series.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:58
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bloodychill posted:bad post above me guaranteed *scrolls up* o-oh, phew...
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Mar 16, 2017 20:58
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In Training posted:Theres no such thing as objectivity would you say it's objectively true that objective truth doesn't exist?
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Mar 16, 2017 20:59
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Looper posted:well ideally the fighting game guy expert would also having the writing ability and self-awareness to make his reviews more easily digestible for the layperson. that's why i referenced ebert; even though he absolutely knew his poo poo regarding film all of his reviews are incredibly approachable for the non-cinephile. he was just a (n extremely knowledgeable) dude writing about movies I absolutely agree that Ebert was a great writer and phenomenal at getting his viewpoint across. Here's one of my favorite openings he ever wrote, you can totally tell where this guy is coming from: quote:No other movie opening thrills me more than a vast ship in interstellar space. The modern visual rules for these shots were set by Stanley Kubrick's "2001," which used a detailed model moving slowly instead of a cheesy model moving fast. Kubrick had the good sense to know that sound does not travel in space, but "Star Wars," with its deep bass rumbles, demonstrated that it certainly should. And then in the "Alien" and "Star Trek" pictures and in countless others, gigantic space cruisers aimed majestically at the stars, and I felt an inner delight that has its origins in those long-ago days when I devoured pulp space opera by Robert Heinlein and such forgotten masters as Murray Leinster and Eric Frank Russell.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:59
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oddium posted:ah good news they're rebooting Darkplace as Darkspace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA07hLF-3tE
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Mar 16, 2017 21:02
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Lobok posted:Poops is saying because Ebert loved movies but hated games, an Ebert-level game critic must love games but hate movies. actually ebert loved cosmology of kyoto which, to be fair, is literally the best videogame ever made. so he chose well
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Mar 16, 2017 21:03
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oddium posted:
for the rest of this quote please watch the dvd included with your preorder special edition
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Mar 16, 2017 21:04
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roger ebert gave a movie i like a low score once
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Mar 16, 2017 21:05
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corn in the bible posted:for the rest of this quote please watch the dvd included with your preorder special edition if it's nietzsche then the dvd just has the cutscenes for the first game so that they can release only the second quote in Europe.
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Mar 16, 2017 21:07
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People cared more about Ebert's opinion of video games than Ebert cared about video games.
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Mar 16, 2017 21:07
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Phantasium posted:if it's nietzsche then the dvd just has the cutscenes for the first game so that they can release only the second quote in Europe. I wonder if my EU copy of Xenosaga 2 goes for much money....
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Mar 16, 2017 21:08
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Anyone else playing the Lawbreakers closed beta? If you haven't logged on yet or didn't get a code, let me save you the trouble - it's mediocre. But now that it's 2017 every company will make Overwatch, but worse, so I anticipate a year of bland, soulless MOBAs.
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Mar 16, 2017 21:33
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I'm still reeling from cliffyb complaining about slow coverbased shooters when he's responsible for Gears Also "overwatch is for your gf to play"
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Mar 16, 2017 21:37
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I met CliffyB in 2000 at E3 (if you were a goon you could go up to him and say hi and I did) and he was a really gracious, genuine guy. We chatted about games for 20 minutes and watched an Epic presentation together, and he gave me some inside scoops. Just a real cool cat to hang with. I'm sad that minor celebrity seems to have gotten to him. Didn't Randy Pitchford say something similar ("this is for your girlfriend") about the Robomancer in Borderlands 2? Implying that your ladyfriend was bad at games by default and needed a helper.
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Mar 16, 2017 21:44
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I met CliffyB in 2000 at E3 (if you were a goon you could go up to him and say hi and I did) and he was a really gracious, genuine guy. We chatted about games for 20 minutes and watched an Epic presentation together, and he gave me some inside scoops. Just a real cool cat to hang with. I'm sad that minor celebrity seems to have gotten to him. It was a random BL2 developer I believe and he was talking about a skill in one side of the Robomancer skill tree that increase damage/accuracy every time the player missed, calling it something like "girlfriend mode". Honestly the heart was in the right place on helping out people that might not be that hot at FPS but it came out kind of weird.
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Mar 16, 2017 21:58
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I liked the earlier LawBreakers alpha, look forward to playing this one when I get home from work, and I don't care who knows. 
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BexGu posted:It was a random BL2 developer I believe and he was talking about a skill in one side of the Robomancer skill tree that increase damage/accuracy every time the player missed, calling it something like "girlfriend mode". Honestly the heart was in the right place on helping out people that might not be that hot at FPS but it came out kind of weird. If he had said "game journalist mode"... Imagine the amount of retweets!
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Mar 16, 2017 22:11
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ImpAtom posted:TWEWY is fun but going back to it I found I just didn't enjoy the combat that much. I think I just don't like touch screen movement controls. It's definitely the most divisive part of the game.
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Mar 16, 2017 22:32
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Lurdiak posted:It's definitely the most divisive part of the game. Yeah and it isn't like it's bad or anything. It's well-designed touch screen movement controls. I just don't like 'em. Not a gamebreaker or anything but kinda puts a little damper on it for me.
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I remember a lot of reviewers being frustrated by having to divide their attention between the two screens during battle, which wasn't an issue for me but I totally get as well.ImpAtom posted:That makes no sense to me. I don't enjoy wrestling games at all but that doesn't mean all wrestling games are bad and I wouldn't ever say they are. Yeah, and I enjoy a lot of games, tv shows and movies that are objectively not very good.
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