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Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Fojar38 posted:

Personally I'm going to buy and play the video game being discussed in this thread, specifically Mass Effect: Andromeda for the Playstation 4 console, to be released in North America on Tuesday March 21st, 2017. I will then decide if I think it is a good, bad, or mediocre video game for myself.

You are entitled to aforementioned decision, however if I may provide a counterpoint, perhaps there is merit in the opinions of others or footage of Mass Effect: Andromeda(2017) that could potentially save you full retail price on a game, typically $59.99?

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VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Now this is the kind of post that makes me laugh!

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Kirios posted:

introducing new concepts and setting new ground ala Zelda Breath of the Wild.

heh

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me


Someone called this yawning earlier, but in context you are waking up from being literally brain dead and resuscitated by an artificial intelligence taking up residence in your brain-space, so it's, like, the one understandable face.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Arglebargle III posted:

:same:

But detective noire is a major influence for the Witcher novels, and the games like the low fantasy deconstruction route, so sorceresses are hot because A) Geralt is a jaded private eye monster slayer who needs a femme fatale and B) if you had the magic power to make yourself hot and young you would.

yen was a literal hunchback, the sorceresses straight up magically alter their appearance permanently.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I feel like we should address this idea that there are people lurking on this dead gay forum just to slander Bioware:

No there aren't, the only people interested in Bioware games are people who would like to play Bioware games. That doesn't mean they have to be positive about every Bioware game.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

SFM porn creatives are not wasting any time, are they?

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Kirios posted:

Uhh nothing. This isn't exactly introducing new concepts and setting new ground ala Zelda Breath of the Wild.

lol

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
honestly me:a just doesnt have the magic the other games had

I think leaving the milky way was a mistake

me was cool because it was a society of aliens and it felt like it was cool and had a unique dynamic

they just tossed that out and throw you initially on a planet of aliens that dont communicate with you aside from trying to murdee you

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Fojar38 posted:

I've noticed this too. I like Bioware games but had a really hard time getting into the Witcher and I am genuinely at a loss as to why because I should like both.

I'm in the same boat. I love Bioware games. I think they're among the best of the entire medium. I can't get into the Witcher and I genuinely want to because I love story-focused RPGs. I think it has to do with the writing philosophy of the two developers, honestly. Bioware structures their games around an optimistic take on humanity that if you work together, you can accomplish great things; while CD Projekt Red seems to have a much more dour take on civilization that I just don't find as interesting or entertaining.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Sombrerotron posted:

SFM porn creatives are not wasting any time, are they?

sfm porn animations are better than the games animations

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
I for one am going to get into my mass effect brand cuddlesquee plush hoodie and go burn my 10 hours trying to make a sexy me clone and be the reincarnation of commander shepard. :colbert:

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

I'm gonna play this! It's only 48 plus tax on consoles (via Amazon or BestBuy deal) and you can get half of that back if you don't like it. I just hope I can whip out my gun and stuff during conversations, I remember how that's what hooked me in the previews for Mass Effect 1, doing cool stuff in conversation scenes.

Wacky muppety facial expressions are not necessarily a negative for me either, will see how it goes.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 16, 2017

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist


He's wrong about them being new concepts. He's not wrong about it being a dope game.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Kirios posted:

Uhh nothing. This isn't exactly introducing new concepts and setting new ground ala Zelda Breath of the Wild.

I have literally never played a Zelda game, only watched some videos, but it looks like basically the same thing as Wind Walker or whichever one geop was LP'ing a while ago.

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.
Some people will like this game. Some people will dislike this game. Some people will prefer the metagame of trashing this game based on internet gifs and hot-take-youtubers. All must coexist in this thread.

Serf
May 5, 2011


eonwe posted:

honestly me:a just doesnt have the magic the other games had

I think leaving the milky way was a mistake

me was cool because it was a society of aliens and it felt like it was cool and had a unique dynamic

they just tossed that out and throw you initially on a planet of aliens that dont communicate with you aside from trying to murdee you

They really hosed up with the Reapers thing. It works well if you're willing to end the series on the note they ended it on, or you're willing to leave yourself space to work with in that same story. Bioware did none of the smart things.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013



are you trying to suggest that zelda didn't invent ubisoft towers, open worlds, grass, horses, mountains, bad framerate, and jorts??????

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Norns posted:

He's wrong about them being new concepts. He's not wrong about it being a dope game.

duh and/or doy

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

fridge corn posted:

I cant wait to play this game six months from now

Actually it usually takes them at least a year to release the game of the year edition with all the DLC included

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Kirios posted:

Uhh nothing. This isn't exactly introducing new concepts and setting new ground ala Zelda Breath of the Wild.

I'll bite, what new concepts?

Also I'm more interested to hear about your opinion about a game you've actually played.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Arglebargle III posted:

:same:

But detective noire is a major influence for the Witcher novels, and the games like the low fantasy deconstruction route, so sorceresses are hot because A) Geralt is a jaded private eye monster slayer who needs a femme fatale and B) if you had the magic power to make yourself hot and young you would.

Men wouldnt though

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Josuke Higashikata posted:

are you trying to suggest that zelda didn't invent ubisoft towers, open worlds, grass, horses, mountains, bad framerate, and jorts??????

actually, it did invent jorts

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
So I went fist to fist wit hthe giant Atlas style robot boss in Multiplayer

It did what looked like an instant kill on me, but I was left alive. Virtually no health, but still standing


Is what the new synch attacks? Because if so that would be fantastic.

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived

eonwe posted:

honestly me:a just doesnt have the magic the other games had

I think leaving the milky way was a mistake

me was cool because it was a society of aliens and it felt like it was cool and had a unique dynamic

they just tossed that out and throw you initially on a planet of aliens that dont communicate with you aside from trying to murdee you

yeah I agree with this, having the big bad beating up a redshirt right away felt like they kinda overplayed their hand a bit?

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Actually playing the trial made me mildly intrigued about the Archon for the first time since she was mentioned. She wants in the Remnant vaults for some reaosn and finds out that Alec Ryder figured it out thanks to Sam, and now she's looking for you because you have SAM. There's something they want from the Remnant. What? I'm actually curious now. What do they think/know is in there?

Oh and the Archon, or whoever we've been led to believe is the archon, is obviously female when you see her in the trial. It's coded into her walk animation and the way she holds her arms when she stands still.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Like when people talk about the hilariously compressed timeline needed to make this game work, they have a point. The ME series by itself has a ridiculous timeline, but when you factor in Andromeda it just gets sillier. Had humans been kicking around for a few centuries with the Council things would make a lot more sense for both the Shepherd games and Andromeda.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Josuke Higashikata posted:

are you trying to suggest that zelda didn't invent ubisoft towers, open worlds, grass, horses, mountains, bad framerate, and jorts??????

It often has a respectable framerate and I don't know that Link's climbing shorts are actually denim!

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

I watched that Giant Bomb stream.

Game looks bad

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Nazzadan posted:

You are entitled to aforementioned decision, however if I may provide a counterpoint, perhaps there is merit in the opinions of others or footage of Mass Effect: Andromeda(2017) that could potentially save you full retail price on a game, typically $59.99?

Perhaps, but owing to previous experience regarding the sometimes less than reliable commentary and impressions on video games by this particular developer that are found on the internet, I feel that it would be most prudent to judge for myself, and if it turns out to be a poor video game, trade it in.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Fojar38 posted:

Personally I'm going to buy and play the video game being discussed in this thread, specifically Mass Effect: Andromeda for the Playstation 4 console, to be released in North America on Tuesday March 21st, 2017. I will then decide if I think it is a good, bad, or mediocre video game for myself.

I mean you could play it right now if you wanted, unless you think that EA is hiding all the good stuff after the first ten hours and just really want to be sure.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Zelda: Breath of the Wild isn't some super original game. Like Everything in that game has been done before to varying degrees. What sets Zelda apart is it's crazy level of polish and charm in it's world. Meanwhile this game has seemingly very low levels of polish.

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002
I'll probably hold off until it's 50% off somewhere. :(

Like I said, I'm a huge ME fan. I probably play the series through at least once a year. I even loved ME3 despite the last ten minutes. I just am not feeling much with ME:A after playing around a bit though.

The character creator is really bad and took out a pretty big part of the fun for me. It's hard to imagine that they went from a pretty good creator in DA:I to this. It feels like a big step back. Once you're in game, the lack of options really starts to feel apparent after a bit and you see things in your char you want to change but literally can't. Big jaws and Steven Tyler mouths everywhere.

The animations are bad but maybe not as much as people harp on. For most scenes they are pretty on par with the rest of the series, but then they will do some extreme closeup to show off that texture budget and the lack of eyebrow, cheek movement becomes really noticeable. It's like they had a set goal for textures in mind but then realized that making meshes to match that quality was going to take a huge amount of time and money and they ran out of budget for it. Which pretty much the opposite of how it's suppose to work.

The gameplay itself is fine, for the msot part, and probably the closest in feel to the old games. The first planet was pretty cool, and I like having options of different areas to explore. Scanning didn't feel too bad since it seemed mostly optional but I didn't do too much of the tutorial reading since we're timed. There are some janky issues with covering and stuff, though, and it in that respect it doesn't feel very precise. Like, some rocks it will auto cover and sometimes other rocks of the same size won't? Also it doesn't really "lock" you in cover mode like the previous games so you just kind of feel weird and floaty?

The actual combat customization is pretty nice. You have to really look and go through your keybindings, etc. to figure out what everything does, but it's pretty robust even if the UI isn't intuitive. Like, you press "M" to open your map but you don't press "M" again to close it and instead it takes like two extra steps for that?

I guess overall I'd give it a 6.5. Like, the parts of actual gameplay are fun and feel like Mass Effect for sure, but the game felt really... unpolished, I guess. It certainly doesn't feel like they had 5 years and the budget they put into this. The basic template is there, but there are a ton of really weird QOL things and dev choices that make it seem kind of rushed or that they focused on the wrong priorities while making it. It's not bad, but I'm going to wait for some performance patches and reviews of the post-10hr trial before buying it, which is a far cry from the "I will buy this day-of launch" I had going in to it.

Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Mar 16, 2017

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

DrNutt posted:

I mean you could play it right now if you wanted, unless you think that EA is hiding all the good stuff after the first ten hours and just really want to be sure.

It does stop the instant you unlock the first story vault*. That might have good stuff in it.

*There are no non-story vaults in the trial.

Random Asshole
Nov 8, 2010

Welp, finished up all the story stuff in the demo, still have 5 hours left and there isn't much to do in the demo area. Checked out multiplayer but basically have no interest in it, same as ME3.

The animations on humans and asari remain real bad but those aren't nearly as irritating to me as the writing. I agree with whoever in the thread said it felt like a third-party tie-in novel, I originally compared it to fanfiction but that implies a passion for the source material that is frankly kind of lacking here.

My ultimate verdict is that it's basically ME1 fused awkwardly with DA:I, except not as good as either. The game feels like it needs another 6 months in the oven, specifically with a dev team that actually can get stuff done since the game is still in this shape after 5 years. I'd recommend checking out the demo if you're interested as clearly not everyone agrees with me, but unless you're foaming at the mouth for more Mass Effect I wouldn't pre-order it first. Also, whatever you do don't buy Origin EA Wallet prepaid cards, they're nonrefundable and (unlike Steam Wallet cards) can't be combined with cash for some goddamn reason. I'd at least be considering requesting a refund if I weren't effectively locked into spending $60 on Origin.

Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Mar 16, 2017

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Dexo posted:

Zelda: Breath of the Wild isn't some super original game. Like Everything in that game has been done before to varying degrees. What sets Zelda apart is it's crazy level of polish and charm in it's world. Meanwhile this game has seemingly very low levels of polish.

they should have polished the ui a lot more imo but yeah its very good.

also i thought of one new concept! freeze objects and impart momentum on them and then ride them when they unfreeze. was that used anywhere else?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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DrNutt posted:

I mean you could play it right now if you wanted, unless you think that EA is hiding all the good stuff after the first ten hours and just really want to be sure.

I'm getting it for PS4 and don't really want to do a bunch of Origin stuff.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Well, the game just bugged out and put all of my powers into permanent cooldown and made them all completely unusable. I was sort of enjoying the game enough during he prologue to keep my pre-order (especially since I got it 30% off during an Origin pricing error) but now I think I might cancel and maybe pick it up down the line when it's greatly reduced or finally hits the EA access vault. What little of the openworld gameplay I did wasn't grabbing me, the Nomad is less fun to drive than the Mako, and I didn't really care for the Mako.

Where is the refund link in Origin?

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Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Real hurthling! posted:

they should have polished the ui a lot more imo but yeah its very good.

also i thought of one new concept! freeze objects and impart momentum on them and then ride them when they unfreeze. was that used anywhere else?

I think it was in the most recent Zelda game for 3DS, IIRC.

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