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When Mass Effect 3 was in beta and it turned out you could accidentally download it on Xbox 360 it wasn't in a completed state and there was a bunch of placeholder dialogue using either text to speech or some intern blandly reading the dialogue and very little if any emoting from the characters, all of which was cleaned up at launch so maybe that's what up?
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Endorph posted:also the face line is in the game, it isn't an edit or stitched together I've been super hard on this probably garbage game but I can't believe this is real, I refuse to believe a team of people that make videogames for a living signed off on this. "No, we don't need another take. That was fine."
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Mar 17, 2017 00:56
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Fojar38 posted:its about ethics in game development It's a complete enigma. Nothing is ever done because if anyone says anything, and stands up for what is right in these situations which is still ultimately in the best interest of the final shipped product, you will be blacklisted and never find a job in the industry again. It's pretty loving stupid, but thank god some of these awesome folks that do want to do the right thing pretty much keep their mouth shut and move into another company and out of the shithole that is Bioware/EA today. Hudson is now working on an unannounced project for Scorpio.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:57
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Constellation I posted:Kind of on the fence here. Pre-ordered this years ago so I'm going to be paying $40 for it after taxes. If only you could get the huge tax write off EA can expect.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:59
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I feel like the voice direction is "we aren't going to have the money, time or talent to animate this properly, so do it like you've had ten Valium so it matches up. Wait make that space Valium. Ok go."
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Mar 17, 2017 01:00
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Fojar38 posted:When Mass Effect 3 was in beta and it turned out you could accidentally download it on Xbox 360 it wasn't in a completed state and there was a bunch of placeholder dialogue using either text to speech or some intern blandly reading the dialogue and very little if any emoting from the characters, all of which was cleaned up at launch so maybe that's what up? lol
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Mar 17, 2017 01:00
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Fojar38 posted:When Mass Effect 3 was in beta and it turned out you could accidentally download it on Xbox 360 it wasn't in a completed state and there was a bunch of placeholder dialogue using either text to speech or some intern blandly reading the dialogue and very little if any emoting from the characters, all of which was cleaned up at launch so maybe that's what up? No, the code people are playing is the game. The review copies are the game. The 10 hour trial content is the game. This is the finished product not including future patches.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:00
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"not how he died...i pulled those logs...what happened with...pathfinder" is what's setting off my "what is going on" alarm That genuinely sounded either stitched together or that someone is skipping rapidly through the dialogue and if that's the state it's in right now without any player intervention whatsoever and it sticks out like such a sore thumb I can't think of any other explanation other than that it's not done (and that includes "the game is just bad" because there is no other conversation that is anywhere near that bad)
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Mar 17, 2017 01:01
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Fojar38 posted:When Mass Effect 3 was in beta and it turned out you could accidentally download it on Xbox 360 it wasn't in a completed state and there was a bunch of placeholder dialogue using either text to speech or some intern blandly reading the dialogue and very little if any emoting from the characters, all of which was cleaned up at launch so maybe that's what up? 
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Mar 17, 2017 01:01
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Fojar38 posted:"not how he died...i pulled those logs...what happened with...pathfinder" is what's setting off my "what is going on" alarm is it that hard to believe a video game can have bad voice direction
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Mar 17, 2017 01:02
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There's got to be one worst line in everything. This one just happens to be a doozy.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:04
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Endorph posted:the line was like that in giant bomb's preview. the line was like that in the ign preview. the line was like that on some dude's stream. It's hard to believe that a video game can have voice direction that uneven If they phoned it in entirely shouldn't we be seeing similar poo poo everywhere
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Mar 17, 2017 01:04
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Fojar38 posted:"not how he died...i pulled those logs...what happened with...pathfinder" is what's setting off my "what is going on" alarm It's the worst bit of dialogue. It is not the only one that's like that. There's a lot of stuff that is in the ballpark of being that bad.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:05
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Fojar38 posted:"not how he died...i pulled those logs...what happened with...pathfinder" is what's setting off my "what is going on" alarm There are not quite equal, but similarly appalling passages of dialogue and voice acting. I watched a few hours of the game last night and was just like what on loving earth.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:05
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Constellation I posted:Kind of on the fence here. Pre-ordered this years ago so I'm going to be paying $40 for it after taxes. same. Fojar38 posted:"not how he died...i pulled those logs...what happened with...pathfinder" is what's setting off my "what is going on" alarm from what the tone of the scene is supposed to be, she is supposed to be tired and under extream stress and now this is a new thing where the super dependable dude is dead and their mongo child is in charge and she is just stuttering words out at this point because everythings probaly hosed. the problem is the voice acting and the face convey none of this. the actress reading everything straight and the face looks dead and set on whore paint job.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:05
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Fojar38 posted:It's hard to believe that a video game can have voice direction that uneven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-msmx9yW5Q
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Mar 17, 2017 01:05
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Reminder a solid 90% of the game is still unknown to us and full of so many more wonderful blunders to be found. I'm really tempted to buy it and find them, but I know a funny youtube video will have them sometime in the next few weeks.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:05
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thank you for the youtube hot take but unedited would be appreciated Funky See Funky Do posted:It's the worst bit of dialogue. It is not the only one that's like that. There's a lot of stuff that is in the ballpark of being that bad. Can I see some? You'd think that if there was anything else that notoriously bad it'd be being as trumpeted as that mp4
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Mar 17, 2017 01:06
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Fojar38 posted:If they phoned it in entirely shouldn't we be seeing similar poo poo everywhere Fojar38 posted:thank you for the youtube hot take but unedited would be appreciated
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Mar 17, 2017 01:07
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Nazzadan posted:I've been super hard on this probably garbage game but I can't believe this is real, I refuse to believe a team of people that make videogames for a living signed off on this. I can because I've been there. When you have a nightmare project and you know no one cares anymore so you just do your job and get out of there because morale is in the toilet and you get your paycheck while you prep your portfolio.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:07
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Fojar38 posted:Personally I let internet memes guide all of my opinions, not just my video game ones  I'm going to read this thread through and respond like I'm not 600 post behind.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:08
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I wouldn't mind the animation but the performance problems are so weird. I shouldn't be getting better fps when in combat than when I'm chatting with someone.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:09
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Utnayan posted:It's a complete enigma. Nothing is ever done because if anyone says anything, and stands up for what is right in these situations which is still ultimately in the best interest of the final shipped product, you will be blacklisted and never find a job in the industry again. It's pretty loving stupid, but thank god some of these awesome folks that do want to do the right thing pretty much keep their mouth shut and move into another company and out of the shithole that is Bioware/EA today. So what was it like when you were fired from Bioware? 
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Mar 17, 2017 01:09
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Endorph posted:it's stitching clips together and and adding some punchlines but it's not literally making lines up, dude. if the line reads are bad, they're going to be bad with or without a youtuber adding a laughtrack afterwards. Actually that stuff matters a lot. Simply watching with or without audio changes the way the scene looks. Case in point: The problems regarding facial animations aren't nearly as noticeable if it's being watched in 60 fps with sound. Start throwing edits and laugh tracks in and you have a whole different scene that was designed to look ridiculous
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Mar 17, 2017 01:10
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Fojar38 posted:thank you for the youtube hot take but unedited would be appreciated its the same, i've played the trial and that scene. this is a real thing they've shipped. (minus the wacky music effects from that clip, obviously)
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Mar 17, 2017 01:10
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I don't know when Foster did her lines, but Tom Taylorson (Scott Ryder) on Twitter said that he's been doing voice lines for this game as recently as January and as far back as 2015.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:10
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Fojar38 posted:Actually that stuff matters a lot. Simply watching with or without audio changes the way the scene looks. Case in point: The problems regarding facial animations aren't nearly as noticeable if it's being watched in 60 fps with sound.
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I was really excited to try this, and made sure to not read up on anything about to avoid skewed opinions etc etc. Don't want to write a wall of text so here are some points. - Quite like the combat, feels like what ME1 was trying to be. - Half the characters seem to have skin like plasticine, the other half like stone walls. - Sara Ryder constantly looks like she's done a prank off-screen and is waiting for the others to find out. - A lot of moments dramatic moments feel hollow, almost like they're not actually happening. The moment when you got the Tempest didn't seem to have any weight behind it at all. - It feels like the game has no music. - The whole 'Pathfinder! Pathfinder? Pathfinder.' way of referring to Ryder feels really lame. - I'm already sick of the jumpjet noise. Despite those above points I don't think the game was crap overall. I like the premise and it looks like it could very well get more interesting as time goes on, it just feels weirdly empty for the first few hours, and kind of like it wished it was a fantasy game instead of sci-fi. Tirranek fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Mar 17, 2017 01:11
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this game sure sucks and is awesome and I look forward to not buying it and watching many more hilarious gifs and webms and short videos 
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monster on a stick posted:So what was it like when you were fired from Bioware? Haven't you heard? It was my uncle.
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Endorph posted:i can notice the facial animations even when it's got sound, op. furthermore even if that's the case that's still a really bad excuse for the terrible facial animations. I guess we're different then because it's the sort of thing I only notice if someone is slowing the poo poo down and zooming the camera on it.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:12
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Dongicus posted:Bethesda and Bioware should be put down in this gamer's humble opinion. This
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Mar 17, 2017 01:12
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Anyone with an i5 3570k oc'd and 8gb of ram and a 750ti play this yet? what kind of settings could you play it at?
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Mar 17, 2017 01:12
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https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/842497096607563776
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Mar 17, 2017 01:13
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Well that answers that (if he isn't lying but ehhh)
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Mar 17, 2017 01:13
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Okay so I've finished up my ten hours. Some thoughts: 1) a lot of the facial animations still suck. They're definitely improved from the December trailer, but PeeBee in particular is having issues. 2) a lot of the voice actors are phoning it in. Kumail Nanjiani is absolutely not phoning it in, and nor is anybody playing a Salarian. I don't know why the Salarian voice actors are knocking it outta the park, but they really are. 3) combat is fuckin rad. Best of any Bioware game I've played. I know we don't buy RPGs for the fight scenes, but everything about the combat is super fun. Biotic Charge really didn't need jetpack support but I appreciate it nonetheless. 4) Eos is empty as gently caress. I don't know why game developers think we want these big empty sandboxes to tool around in but it's just not that interesting. 5) I really hope there are more squadmate options. Right now it looks like we're saddled with the two boring humans whose personalities are "is a soldier" and "is a cop" respectively. Liam's dialogue is particularly cringey: it's like he's spitting out half-remembered Firefly quotes. 6) exploration (of actual stuff, not empty desert) is pretty fun. I like how the scanning mechanic turns you into a space detective.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:13
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The day 2 patch will fix it
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Mar 17, 2017 01:14
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hahaahahahah holy gently caress.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:14
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Fojar38 posted:"not how he died...i pulled those logs...what happened with...pathfinder" is what's setting off my "what is going on" alarm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGs-pLmDd1s&t=860s
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Anyone with an i5 3570k oc'd and 8gb of ram and a 750ti play this yet? what kind of settings could you play it at? You should be fine, from what I hear the game is pretty well optimized as is expected from Frostbite
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