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usagi's also like in middle school so it's way weirder also for some reason i thought mamoru was in college i have no idea why
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Moltrey posted:usagi's also like in middle school so it's way weirder he's just also 17. usagi's 14. it isn't *that* weird especially later on when she's 16 and he's 19.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:28
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oh duh, I blanked when you said he skipped grades so i remembered him being like 19, which is Oofa Doofa i need to fully watch sailor moon
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Mar 17, 2017 01:32
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Moltrey posted:oh duh, I blanked when you said he skipped grades so i remembered him being like 19, which is Oofa Doofa
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Mar 17, 2017 01:33
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Endorph posted:sailor moon crystal season 3 is pretty decent if you want a quick injection of sailor moon. don't watch the first two seasons tho.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:38
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Catherine's a different type of game and for a different audience I imagine. is a huge part of the audience for the persona games and jrpgs in general not adults, tho, at least in north america and europe? I just can't imagine actual teenagers giving a poo poo about this franchise
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Moltrey posted:i was honestly considering just watching the original tho that might be dumb. i remembering being so excited for crystal and then so bummed, glad season 3 is good tho as for 90s sailor moon it's fun even to this day but you gotta be willing to skip an ep if it seems like filler and you aren't digging it. otherwise you'll just get bored. wizard on a water slide posted:is a huge part of the audience for the persona games and jrpgs in general not adults, tho, at least in north america and europe?
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Mar 17, 2017 01:40
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why wouldn't teenagers care about persona, I'm sure plenty of people here were when 3 or 4 came out.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:42
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i know people who played p4 when they were 12 years old and loved it
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Endorph posted:i know people who played p4 when they were 12 years old and loved it 13 but yeah
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Mar 17, 2017 01:43
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wizard on a water slide posted:is a huge part of the audience for the persona games and jrpgs in general not adults, tho, at least in north america and europe? Why wouldn't teenagers care about a stylish franchise with a lot of cute boys/girls where people their age have cool magical powers and fight heavily symbolic battles. That is level 90% of all media aimed at that age group.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:43
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Endorph posted:there are thousands of teenage girls who love this poo poo. it has cute boys and is about communicating with people. and it has good anime art. why wouldn't teenage girls love it. because it's a mechanically complicated, 100 hour jrpg Motto posted:why wouldn't teenagers care about persona, I'm sure plenty of people here were when 3 or 4 came out. that was 10 years ago, stuff also changes
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Mar 17, 2017 01:44
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like obviously im wrong since like fifty people jumped on me saying that but i also don't know that teenagers only like games about teenagers in high school
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Mar 17, 2017 01:45
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is it really that mechanically complicated? You smash personas together and hit enemies' weaknesses. and dude, teenagers love jrpgs. like, adore them. if i was to associate one genre with teenagers, especially teenage girls, it would be the jrpg.
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wizard on a water slide posted:like obviously im wrong since like fifty people jumped on me saying that but i also don't know that teenagers only like games about teenagers in high school thankfully atlus has other franchises and games about teenagers not in highschool, and even adults
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Mar 17, 2017 01:46
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Wait no I was fourteen, lol, I forgot how old I am
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Mar 17, 2017 01:47
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wizard on a water slide posted:is a huge part of the audience for the persona games and jrpgs in general not adults, tho, at least in north america and europe? I can. Quite easily? Like, teens have a lot of free time to play videogames and stuff, and jrpgs don't seem particularly more mature or aimed at an older audience than most games. And it's about high school kids and high school life, so it's a setting relevant to teens and everything. I don't see why they wouldn't pick it up. Edit: wizard on a water slide posted:because it's a mechanically complicated, 100 hour jrpg I dunno, for me at least the 100 hour jrpg was a genre more palatable to me as a teenager. Just had a lot more free time for it. SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Yeah I have no idea why teenagers WOULDN'T be into Persona. It's incredibly identiftable with it's broadstrokes yet specific characters and got that good occult poo poo. Like Eriko from Persona 1 was not that weird for how much she was into mind demons and fighting other demons. Like I remember being a very very young teen when Persona 4 came out and seeing screenshots in whatever gaming magazine i had and thinking that a "realistic" kinda RPG looked rad as hell. Like I was super into EarthBound so seeing poo poo like A Normal Japanese Town and Yu reading books in his room was cool to me. wizard on a water slide posted:is a huge part of the audience for the persona games and jrpgs in general not adults, tho, at least in north america and europe? Endorph posted:you should really peep season 3 for the animation if nothing else, it looks really nice since they brought on new staff and yeah I remember trying to watch original sailor moon years ago and like the first ten episodes are just usagi solo goofing up fights, which it's kinda cool that it's a slow burn but also not
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Motto posted:thankfully atlus has other franchises and games about teenagers not in highschool, and even adults I didn't like strange journey or smt4 :/
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Mar 17, 2017 01:49
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Endorph posted:to be fair mamoru's 17, he skipped a grade or two
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Mar 17, 2017 02:21
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i think being 16 made playing FES a more memorable introduction to the series so i'm sure it definitely still has plenty of appeal to people that age
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Mar 17, 2017 02:57
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wizard on a water slide posted:I didn't like strange journey !!!!! the wrongest opinion
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Mar 17, 2017 03:22
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I liked Strange Journey, but I tapped out around Sector D cause man i just couldn't do that anymore. I really liked the story and wish I could see it out, but I'm good. It not being numbered really helps my dumb completionist brain, plus I still gotta get to 4 and 4A
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Mar 17, 2017 03:48
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I was a teen when I played P3/4 but mostly since it was set in Japan that appealed to me vs yet another HS setting. Also I feel like when I was young(er) ANYTHING other than being teen was cool and interesting vs going to class/clubs  The only thing I can think of is that games are much more expensive nowadays than back then but 100 hrs were nothing to a bored kid.
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Mar 17, 2017 04:06
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For a while I thought because I liked P3P and P4 I would like the other SMT games, and I wasn't able to get into any of them. Like not the even the promise of Dante from the Devil May Cry series was able to keep me engaged through Nocturne.
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Raxivace posted:For a while I thought because I liked P3P and P4 I would like the other SMT games, and I wasn't able to get into any of them. The old PS2 games had extremely high encounter rates and you know I hated the invisible maze from Nocturne. The LPs are better honestly if wanted to see how the story goes but they were very stylish games even now. Raidou 2 is a good game with teen protagonist not in HS who runs a detective firm on the side but no VA.
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Mar 17, 2017 04:27
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man you guys want grown up persona but where the hekl is my Raidou 3? i am waiting atlus
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STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS posted:man you guys want grown up persona but where the hekl is my Raidou 3? i am waiting atlus It's going be directed by Yoko Taro after they remaster Nier 1 and Drakengard series.
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i thought I was a weak gamer and would never beat Nocturne even tho I beat SMT I and II before it but I did it and proved I had a strong gamer soul
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Alder posted:It's going be directed by Yoko Taro after they remaster Nier 1 and Drakengard series. gently caress where can i throw my money please i want that so bad
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Moltrey posted:I liked Strange Journey, but I tapped out around Sector D cause man i just couldn't do that anymore. I really liked the story and wish I could see it out, but I'm good. It not being numbered really helps my dumb completionist brain, plus I still gotta get to 4 and 4A lol, it gets so much worse after that
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Mar 17, 2017 05:02
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If you want a persona game where you are an old, play Trails of Cold Steel III
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Terper posted:If you want a persona game where you are an old, play Trails of Cold Steel III The ancient age of 20.
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Terper posted:If you want a persona game where you are an old, play Trails of Cold Steel III I tried ToCS I just don't care enough about the characters to progress beyond intro. Also they feel very bland.
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In addition to the whole "target audience of high schoolers and nostalgic adults", "they already did it with P2" etc, I think that a school with stuff like weekly clubs, midterm/final exams and summer vacation is a very good "base" and structure for the kind of calendar based social simulation that Persona 3 + is. Also a school setting has the advantage of being a universal experience everyone has had, even if the Japanese style school is a little different than the experiences overseas audiences had. It wouldn't work as well if the main character worked in an office or whatever. That reminded me though, something I noticed from reading stuff like the OP is that it seems like none of the Social Links this time around involve school clubs. I guess it's since this game's protagonist is a social outcast rumored to be a delinquent? So he wouldn't get involved with things like that? That's probably good even though the clubs had a fixed and fairly easy to remember schedule, the club characters were usually pretty dull compared to the random oddballs like Tanaka and Mutatsu the Buddhist monk from P3. Hashino's weird P5 "I originally wanted to make the game about backpacking" interviews make me wonder if they were originally considering doing away with the P3-4 social sim format. Though I have the feeling that stuff never got to the point of even thinking about game mechanics and stuff.
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Alder posted:I tried ToCS I just don't care enough about the characters to progress beyond intro. Also they feel very bland. Trails' characters are good but CS probably has the weakest open by introducing a large cast in bulk then fleshing them out bit by bit in later chapters.
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Mar 17, 2017 05:51
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Really wished being able to swap out people mid-battle wasn't locked behind a social link, let alone one that's not even a main character.
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Mar 17, 2017 06:19
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Alder posted:How about FeMC? Catherine is not Persona, it was an experimental game that sold pretty decently. Persona is their big moneymaker hit where the high schoolers and the high school setting is a big deal to a ton of people, they are not dropping that unless something big happens that would make them see that change as necessary.
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Mar 17, 2017 06:34
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Offisona: You're a generic male Japanese office worker. While staying late waiting for the boss to leave...and wow the last thing I would want to do is explore a dungeon.
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Captain Baal posted:Catherine is not Persona, it was an experimental game that sold pretty decently. Persona is their big moneymaker hit where the high schoolers and the high school setting is a big deal to a ton of people, they are not dropping that unless something big happens that would make them see that change as necessary. You don't really need to post why it's not going to happen. I don't think anyone here is under any illusions that it will (you're right, it won't) happen just expressing frustration that it could without destroying the franchise. Let 'em. It's not doing any harm.
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