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Frames were always janky as all get out and the sooner we move beyond such awkwardness to modern versions the better the definitive modded minecraft version has yet to arrive
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AceClown posted:I disagree with this point, the rednet controller needs a loving advanced degree to use, the basic logic things RedPower are really intuitive to use.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:46
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Rutibex, please never lose your hard on for Redpower. Still, I have no idea why people look back on that mod and think, "wow yes that was good" when there's so much more and there's so much better today, even in 1.10.2. I know a lot of people still want to play 1.7.10 and fair enough, but the performance and QoL improvements in 1.10.2 make it a smoother and overall more enjoyable experience. Johnny Joestar posted:the only thing that will be lost from 1.10 is a handful of crufty tech mods that refuse to update that will be replaced by something else in due time
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Mar 17, 2017 02:23
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Rutibex posted:Red Power let you build moving custom multi-block machines out of frame motors and computer controllers, I do not see anything like that any more. This stuff is just really cool: So, if you liked the frames and funky locomotion, what do you think of something like this? It's got physics:  But more importantly, it's got explosions! 
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Mar 17, 2017 02:24
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:The servos you have on the fountains are not doing anything. They don't work to close an "output" fluiduct. Thermalillies have this weird cooldown where they produce for fifteen seconds, then cool for five minutes, and if they get lava in those five minutes they do nothing and reset the cooldown. And yeah, I'm going to set up an Endoflame field, I just want to make use of the flowers I have already. Quests gave me four Thermalillies and eight Beegonias, I don't even have a petal apothecary yet. Nevets posted:I've always had bad luck with servos working off redstone pulses. Have you cycling filled buckets to dispensers and empty ones back out to fluidcrafters, with the clock setup to pulse the dispensers? That's how I did my thermalilly farm in Regrowth. Speaking of complex and inelegant, I've also started working on thaumcraft. 
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Mar 17, 2017 08:25
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Some things never change apparently. The FTB dudes are currently busy arguing on reddit that Quark letting you place a downward ladder more conveniently is way too overpowered and had to be taken out.
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Mar 17, 2017 10:27
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Threep posted:Some things never change apparently. The FTB dudes are currently busy arguing on reddit that Quark letting you place a downward ladder more conveniently is way too overpowered and had to be taken out. Modding Minecraft is too complex an artform for laypeople to grasp the intricacies of ladder balance, better leave it up to the pros
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Mar 17, 2017 12:55
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ahaha wow that line of reasoning "downward ladders should require string so they're balanced" what the hell i was starting to get worried that everyone in the MINECRAFT MODDED COMMUNITY was starting to become reasonable but this poo poo returns my expectations to normal
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Mar 17, 2017 13:03
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Threep posted:Some things never change apparently. The FTB dudes are currently busy arguing on reddit that Quark letting you place a downward ladder more conveniently is way too overpowered and had to be taken out. Never thought I'd see the day ladders of any kind would be overpowered but here we are.
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Mar 17, 2017 14:03
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FTB Beyond's design choices are very, very bizarre. From what people are saying on reddit, they also changed the recipe for Psi's basic pistol (as in, the one you need to start using the mod) so that you need to kill the ender dragon and the wither three times each to make it.
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Mar 17, 2017 14:15
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Evil Mastermind posted:FTB Beyond's design choices are very, very bizarre. From what people are saying on reddit, they also changed the recipe for Psi's basic pistol (as in, the one you need to start using the mod) so that you need to kill the ender dragon and the wither three times each to make it. I haven't messed around with Psi yet, what does it normally require? I'm guessing not an endgame recipe.
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Hey Fingercuffs posted:I haven't messed around with Psi yet, what does it normally require? I'm guessing not an endgame recipe.
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I'm not gonna rant on inventory management as an example again, since I've done that like a dozen times already, but yeah the running trend here really seems to be "convenience should be incredibly expensive". You could just as easily drop a bucket of water for like 2 seconds and then ladder your way up, so it's not like this is even a unique ability. Quark's ladders don't even hang free like rope ladders do, they just let you place them without doing the stupid awkward tap-shift-slow-descent thing. For free-hanging ladders you have to make them out of metal, and they're way more expensive. Also Quark is very modular and it's easy to change or disable things in the cfg, I hope these people aren't trying to say the option should be taken out. Similarly: Ha ha ha holy poo poo @ the Psi thing though. What the gently caress does it do that you'd even want at that point? I mean even in purely relative-strength terms, you'd have much, much better equipment by that time. I remember skimming a list of community-made Psi spells and none of them seemed that useful, especially since power caps so low in-game even with the best stuff that most statuses you inflict will last like 1.5 seconds and entities move about 1 block. I think 'blink' is one of the only ones I ended up using.
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Mar 17, 2017 14:51
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Evil Mastermind posted:Just iron and redstone to get started. So no, not even close to an endgame recipe. I don't even think the mod adds any new mineable resources.  That's quite a jump to into progression, now I'm going to go home and add Psi to my current modpack just to see what all the fuss is about.
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Mar 17, 2017 14:52
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Vib Rib posted:I'm not gonna rant on inventory management as an example again, since I've done that like a dozen times already, but yeah the running trend here really seems to be "convenience should be incredibly expensive".
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Vib Rib posted:
It's pretty nice on skyblock maps, because it has a spell type that lets you rewind yourself in time. More than once I'd fallen off my platform, then quickly switched to my psi gun and rewound back to on top of the platform 
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Mar 17, 2017 15:29
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Meanwhile, since Mcjty's cable mod Xnet is now past a 1.0 release I've been testing it out in combination with his unique power generation mod Deep Resonance, which is pretty much designed to give you logistics problems to solve. Xnet is basically a new take on Logistics Pipes while Deep Resonance is about creating crystals that give you varying amounts of RF depending on how much effort you put into the process. Deep Resonance's crystals are made with a process that starts with smelting Resonating Ore into crystal liquid. The complicated part is that the liquid has 4 variables, quality, purity, strength and efficiency, that decide how good the resulting crystal is. Quality is entirely decided by the smelting step. The smeltery slowly consumes a tank of lava to run, and if the amount of lava in the tank is kept between 40-60% you end up with 100% quality liquid. The trickier part is that it runs quicker closer to 60%, but if it goes over 60% the quality craters. Adding Xnet in easily solves this. Here's the Xnet controller supplying everything the Smelter needs to run:
And here's the result:  It's possible to just crystalize that right away, but since the purity determines how much of the crystal's output is RF and how much is radiation it's not really a good idea, so the next step is running it through a purifier which uses a compound made from gravel, coal and sand to slowly bring it to 85% purity giving a (default settings) output of 1700 RF/tick and about 80 million total. Similar results for similar effort as Big Reactors, but beats making the reactor for the Nth time. Once you have a few crystals you can use those to fuel a laser and throw various items into it (from redstone to nether stars) to raise strength and efficiency for much stronger crystals.
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Vib Rib posted:I'm not gonna rant on inventory management as an example again, since I've done that like a dozen times already, but yeah the running trend here really seems to be "convenience should be incredibly expensive". You could just as easily drop a bucket of water for like 2 seconds and then ladder your way up, so it's not like this is even a unique ability. Quark's ladders don't even hang free like rope ladders do, they just let you place them without doing the stupid awkward tap-shift-slow-descent thing. For free-hanging ladders you have to make them out of metal, and they're way more expensive. I think the biggest thing I use psi for is mining. Being able to 3 shot a wither is also nice until you can get a proper farm built. I agree that once you have multiple dragon eggs, it's useless.
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  I think searching for things in JEI did this. Had been sitting on 8gb in use and then suddenly a JEI search froze the client up and everything else started locking up too, so I checked out the resource monitor and it was sitting on that number.
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Vib Rib posted:I'm not gonna rant on inventory management as an example again, since I've done that like a dozen times already, but yeah the running trend here really seems to be "convenience should be incredibly expensive". You could just as easily drop a bucket of water for like 2 seconds and then ladder your way up, so it's not like this is even a unique ability. Quark's ladders don't even hang free like rope ladders do, they just let you place them without doing the stupid awkward tap-shift-slow-descent thing. For free-hanging ladders you have to make them out of metal, and they're way more expensive. In a way, he almost is insisting the option should be taken out. He thinks Vazkii should change it to a different item entirely using ladders and string. Because he apparently thinks mining straight down in a 1-block hole is a thing people do and that's too powerful. It's ridiculous. I even pointed out to him how ridiculous it was. They are reverting the psi recipe changes. Thankfully. I don't really use Psi but the recipe changes were massively stupid.
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Vib Rib posted:Similarly: Ha ha ha holy poo poo @ the Psi thing though. What the gently caress does it do that you'd even want at that point? I mean even in purely relative-strength terms, you'd have much, much better equipment by that time.
I was expecting the recipe to take a few diamond blocks, maybe some nether mats, and that's all. Instead it takes mats that make it never really worth building. Especially with AA in the pack. I think FTB just hates it because nothing is gated once you build those blocks, but given how the mod works it's fine. And I'm someone who hates flight period and likes "hard mode" or "gregtech" type packs. Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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There was a really cool magic-only 1.7 server hosted on SA a few years ago, and it was really fun until a bunch of golems rose up and tanked the server, or something I don't remember. Does anyone know if that person made a new server? Or do they still read this thread? Is there an updated version of that modpack for 1.10 or whatever? I don't know what to do with all of the configs (and I'm far too lazy to dig around and figure it out) when I build a modpack, so I don't know if I'm actually getting the most out of them when I make one myself, so I really like pre-done ones, and the all-magic was a really neat theme.
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Serifina posted:In a way, he almost is insisting the option should be taken out. He thinks Vazkii should change it to a different item entirely using ladders and string. Because he apparently thinks mining straight down in a 1-block hole is a thing people do and that's too powerful. It's ridiculous. I even pointed out to him how ridiculous it was.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I'll admit that my usual mining method is "dig into the side of a hill/mountain, then dig a 1x2 hole straight down, stopping occasionally to set up platforms or explore caves", but even so being able to just lower a bunch of ladders onto a hole I found isn't "OP", it's convenient. It's not like I'm just spawning endgame items out of thin air, I'm just digging straight down and placing ladders as I go to see what I find. You basically just described my mining method. Nobody digs 1x1 holes straight down. They either dig staircases or 1x2 holes down then ladder back up. Being able to place ladders below you is handy for, like, ravines and caves, but you can get the same effect with a bucket of goddamn water. Being able to place ladders below you is a quality of life thing, nothing more.
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Serifina posted:Being able to place ladders below you is handy for, like, ravines and caves, but you can get the same effect with a bucket of goddamn water.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Clearly the solution here is to nerf buckets. Maybe make it so you need to forge them in a sterling generator out of a stack of ender pearls or something.
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Mar 17, 2017 19:19
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Buckets can only be made out of dark steel and break after use.
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Did anyone ever update the Diamond Buckets mod for 1.7.10? I miss all those buckets types.
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Can't use Nether Stars and Dragon Eggs for crafting, you can easily gain an infinite amount using a grinder! If anything we should adopt the Terrafirmacraft style of not being able to move water sources. The person making this change feels ice is absolutely fine and there is no problem just using ice to place water everywhere.
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So I've been trying to play the Grimdark pack on the curse launcher, but I keep running into bad FPS lag in game. I know I can run other 1.10 modpacks like All The Mods, but I've got no clue why Grimdark is getting as bad as a quarter of second of movement every few seconds. Is there a mod or tool that lets me figure out what is causing these issues?
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mechanicalFactory posted:So I've been trying to play the Grimdark pack on the curse launcher, but I keep running into bad FPS lag in game. I know I can run other 1.10 modpacks like All The Mods, but I've got no clue why Grimdark is getting as bad as a quarter of second of movement every few seconds. Is there a mod or tool that lets me figure out what is causing these issues?
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mechanicalFactory posted:So I've been trying to play the Grimdark pack on the curse launcher, but I keep running into bad FPS lag in game. I know I can run other 1.10 modpacks like All The Mods, but I've got no clue why Grimdark is getting as bad as a quarter of second of movement every few seconds. Is there a mod or tool that lets me figure out what is causing these issues? Someone had the same problem and turned off mipmaps, which fixed it. Edit: wtf I posted BEFORE frenzy, why is my post after his?!
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frenzy posted:Turning off mipmaps might fix it? McFrugal posted:Someone had the same problem and turned off mipmaps, which fixed it. I did turn off mipmaps, it helped somewhat at start, but after playing for a bit, the lag kept getting worse. Khorne posted:How much RAM is available to the pack? Lots of 1.10 packs don't work well with <6gb. I gave it 5gb using the launcher, I can't give it anymore since my computer only has 8gb of RAM.
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Get more RAM; modded minecraft is a monster at consuming it.
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Minecraft Modding: Please download more RAM to continue
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People were asking about Regrowth-style packs before; I just found one called hypovolemia , which is the same start-in-a-wasteland style, but it's based mainly around Blood Magic. Practical Logistics 2 also came out, if you like data readouts.
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I have 8gb, I allocate 7gb and somehow Win10 survives with 20+ tabs open in Firefox. You should be able to load it with 4-5gb though, something else is going on. Sometimes with an issue like that you can induce a crash a report by using ctrl+alt+del to kill the process. Make sure the only Java you have installed is 64bit Java 8. hop in the discord, I can help troubleshoot. frenzy fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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 I got my lava timer working, then decided I could use the same footprint to set up a bee shower, too. In the background is my Thaumcraft treehouse. To the right of it is my regular-rear end house.
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Of note is you can automate feeding a beegonia exactly the same as an endoflame: three redstone dust, a wooden pressure plate, two half-slabs, an open crate, and a hopper. Optional chest on the hopper for extended storage of bees to burn. (all bees must burn)
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