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facialimpediment posted:Just remember, Donnie is really, really unpopular. It took 3 years of war in Iraq, 5 years of war in Afghanistan, and gas prices approaching $3/gal for GWB to hit this level.
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Godholio posted:It took 3 years of war in Iraq, 5 years of war in Afghanistan, and gas prices approaching $3/gal for GWB to hit this level. If this keeps up, the only way the Democrats can lose in 2020 is if they run Clinton again.
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As we saw from the previous 8 years, Democrats winning the White House is basically an attempt at damage control. They need seats in Congress to be relevant.
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Godholio posted:As we saw from the previous 8 years, Democrats winning the White House is basically an attempt at damage control. They need seats in Congress to be relevant. Not to mention state houses.
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BigDave posted:If this keeps up, the only way the Democrats can lose in 2020 is if they run Clinton again. The Democrats will find new and exciting ways to gently caress up even without poo poo like swiftboating
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Smiling Jack posted:The Democrats will find new and exciting ways to gently caress up even without poo poo like swiftboating Zuck.
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Godholio posted:Zuck. Yeah, this is going to happen no loving doubt  Not being sarcastic.
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I loving hope not. The pod saves America guys were kind of supporting him a bit and it made me feel gross. Like the last thing we need is someone who is in control of a major information source that is not shy about playing games with what it shows to run for president.
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Godholio posted:Zuck. I think he'll certainly try to run, but I can't possibly imagine any demographic he'd actually appeal to, especially in the primary. If the Democrats do end up going with an inexplicable celebrity candidate, my money's on Oprah.
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BigDave posted:If this keeps up, the only way the Democrats can lose in 2020 is if they run Clinton again. Oh my loving god I hope they staple a blue tie to the collar of a golden retriever and run it for president and promise us an invisible ghost as VP, anything at all please
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https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/843536820503826434 edit: people are getting stupider all the time https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/843319793000181760 Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/latimes/status/842640421977280512 Proposed to downgrade it to a misdemeanor
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/843536820503826434
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The Shaq stuff is mostly piggybacking off the Kyrie Irvin flat earth troll thing. Don't put much into it. But, put some stuff into this! Donnie's basically filling his agencies with political spies because he doesn't trust the cabinet heads enough. https://twitter.com/edatpost/status/843602638872743937
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facialimpediment posted:The Shaq stuff is mostly piggybacking off the Kyrie Irvin flat earth troll thing. Don't put much into it. well that doesn't scream paranoid dictator at all
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facialimpediment posted:The Shaq stuff is mostly piggybacking off the Kyrie Irvin flat earth troll thing. Don't put much into it. lol. Let's appoint people who don't understand the core missions of their agencies but will totally rat out Trump's cabinet if they deviate from what these assholes perceive as the core missions of their agencies.
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CommieGIR posted:http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-are-educators-learning-how-to-interrogate-their-students That's messed up. The Reid Technique is for getting confessions and only confessions.
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The best part about this is that unemployment is insurance paid for by the beneficiaries. It's like if they required a drug test to get auto insurance benefits.
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I want to say Florida started that ball rolling a decade-ish ago when reptilian space Governor Rick Scott took seat and weaseled a clause in about drug testing for unemployment bennies. Not a huge surprise since he formerly was on the board of LabCorp or some other similar company that makes tons of money on little bottles of piss. Want to say that lasted a while, but was eventually struck down by a court. Or maybe I was just really high at the time and I'm completely misremembering it. Usually the case.
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Zeroisanumber posted:lol. Let's appoint people who don't understand the core missions of their agencies but will totally rat out Trump's cabinet if they deviate from what these assholes perceive as the core missions of their agencies. Rick loving Perry. Edit: Pretty sure every state that's tried a full-scale drug testing for bennies program has found it to be completely ineffective and a huge waste of funding. Godholio fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Long time conservative dream finally achieved. But has there been a single state where this is already a thing, where the money saved outweighs the cost to implement the program? Guess it doesn't matter though so long as it lets them continue to perceive all poors and minorities as lazy addicts and welfare queens.
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But I am already drug tested fairly frequently???
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Why not do this for all federal assistance, starting with those who get the most? I bet a lot of people who take the mortgage interest deduction will get hit before we get to unemployment benefits or welfare. Surely there's nothing underhanded about only applying these conditions to recipients who are likely to be poor.
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FastestGunAlive posted:Long time conservative dream finally achieved. But has there been a single state where this is already a thing, where the money saved outweighs the cost to implement the program? Guess it doesn't matter though so long as it lets them continue to perceive all poors and minorities as lazy addicts and welfare queens. It's more about funneling state money to drug testing corporations than it is about preventing crack addicts from getting money.
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Yeah the states that have used it have found that something like 95% of the people pass the drug test, 4% just don't take it for one reason or another, and 1% fail it and the vast majority of those failed drug tests are due to marijuana because opiates, cocaine, meth, etc. are all in your system for only a week at most.
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And none of them give a gently caress if you're using your unemployment to go buy handles of Popov vodka. And for some reason we still don't drug test elected officials.
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So. If someone gets fired for a substance abuse problem, they no longer have the means to support themselves while they enter rehab. So they get another job, repeat until you can't find another or death. If i am interpreting this correctly, this will literally kill people and make children go hungry. Since its up to the state, the pain will be concentrated in the red rural areas of trump county. The opioid crises is particularly bad in parts of trump county (plus the northeast). Alabama had more opioid prescriptions written in it than people in 2012. Something like 20% of all people on an opioid prescription >10 days will become addicted. Unemployment means that you had a job and are (nominally at least) looking to find another. It's like $1600 a month for a year and has been proven as one of the best ways to stimulate the economy. These people aren't freeloaders There was a huge talk last year about republicans addressing the opioid crises in America and this is honestly one of the worst things I can think of doing to people who can still be saved.
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Sacrist65 posted:So. If someone gets fired for a substance abuse problem, they no longer have the means to support themselves while they enter rehab. So they get another job, repeat until you can't find another or death. just do hard drugs like coke that gets out of your system faster or smash natty ice all day like god intended
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Iirc Florida actually did this and the number of recipients actually popping hot were so low it was deemed a huge waste of money and resources. Like somewhere in the high 90s was clean. So the amount saved was nowhere near the amount it cost to test everyone.
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