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Oxygen Deficiency: May 19, 2008

What were peoples end-game setups? I went with double fists, wire/slow, overclock and deadly heal chips and it was tons of fun. Especially when controlling A2 in berserker mode :unsmigghh:

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Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Oxygen Deficiency posted:

You have to farm them from the stubby legs machines. It's annoying because the game doesn't exactly tell you to do this, it just says "oh these guys drop them" with no map update. It would've been nice if they indicated they were a rare drop instead of leaving the player wondering if they're doing it wrong. I had to look up a walkthrough.

edit: Also invest in item drop chips. I did it in hard mode which maybe also added more enemies in the city areas.

I think if you talk to the quest giver again, there's a dialogue which tells you to kill stubbies and I think it might mention they're rare, and 6O gets suspicious of your asking.

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Cephas: May 11, 2009; Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!

really queer Christmas posted:

Gotta say, I'm amazed at what a small difference like controlling 9S instead of 2B does to change my perception of characters.

Route B: One of the things I thought was really clever was how playing as 9S with 2B following you around makes you realize how little 2B actually talks. Most of the game is 9S sarcastically commenting on things with absolutely no response from 2B. She'll occasionally say things like "What's this?" but rarely even to him. So most of Route B you're playing 9S basically just talking to himself. But even then, 9S is still like "Hanging out with 2B is so much nicer than working alone! :kimchi:

# ? Mar 20, 2017 14:58

RanKizama: Apr 22, 2015; Shinobi Heart

Cephas posted:

Route B: One of the things I thought was really clever was how playing as 9S with 2B following you around makes you realize how little 2B actually talks. Most of the game is 9S sarcastically commenting on things with absolutely no response from 2B. She'll occasionally say things like "What's this?" but rarely even to him. So most of Route B you're playing 9S basically just talking to himself. But even then, 9S is still like "Hanging out with 2B is so much nicer than working alone! "

"Flattery is unnecessary." - Operator 21O

# ? Mar 20, 2017 15:05

HGH: Dec 20, 2011

I think I really felt that point in the desert escort sidequest where 2B flat out goes "What do you want me to do? You're supposed to be the talkative model" in the face of a bunch of dumb questions.

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Oxygen Deficiency: May 19, 2008

After spending all of Route B trying to do as much battle hacking as possible for variety, for Route C/D I approached every battle as 9S with the intent of punching enemies repeatedly in the face, mainly because I was so loving sick of hacking, but it also ending up being relevant to 9S's slow decent into violent madness! :haw:

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Look Sir Droids: Jan 27, 2015; The tracks go off in this direction.

I bought this game on PC this weekend!

I died in the prologue. I am bad at this game. I'm glad I knew going in that dying in the prologue starts you back at the beginning.

Definitely need to rework the controls. I'm using an Xbox 360 controller. Dodge just doesn't make much sense to me on the trigger. I keep wanting to do Dark Souls things. Also lock on works kind of weird.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 15:35

Mordiceius: Nov 10, 2007; If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Yoko Taro is my spirit animal: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieb...d/#11727df334ec

quote:

What with Nier: Automata finally released, I thought it worth talking with Taro Yoko about his involvement with the series over the years.

�I was born in the city of Nagoya in Aichi Prefecture. I entered into the Nagoya Women�s University Kindergarten and then (skipping ahead) enrolled into the Department of Visual Information at the Kobe Design University. The courses entailed learning about visual expression and CG but the reason I decided to enter this department was that English was not included in their entrance exam and I was not good at English at that time.

�I have liked games for a very long time but when I saw Gradius at the arcade as a junior high student, I became certain that in the future all forms of entertainment will be taken over by video games. This is why I started working for the gaming company Namco after I graduated college. However, I am quite disappointed that my predictions were off and films and TV still dominate the world as usual.

�As for my favorite games growing up, if I were to mention a game other than Gradius, it would have to be Xevious. I was shocked by how they were able to integrate light and shadow using pixel art with a limited number of colors and how the left-right color arrangement was asymmetric.

�I am also definitely a fan of Panzer Dragoon. I found it was brilliant with good taste, especially how they had M�bius create the package design for the original release.�

Talking of Panzer Dragoon, it�s here where we got onto the subject of the Dragon-On Dragoon or Drakengard as the games are known in the West.

�It started when I was in limbo after being fired from Sony Computer Entertainment. My friend Mr. Iwasaki, who was the producer, invited me asking, �Won�t you be the art director for this project I just started?� The original plan was for Iwasaki-san to be the director but I took up that role mid-project since he became too busy.�

�I only directed the first Drakengard title but Square Enix had told me �create a game like Dynasty Warriors with a medieval setting. And, include dragons while you�re at it.� I remember thinking �there�s no way we can win against the Warriors series by just following suit� as I developed the game.

�At the time, Square Enix was not particularly interested in the story, so I did whatever I felt like doing. I have fond memories of getting many complaints from them after the fact. Well, they aren�t really �fond� memories� Yep.�

The original Nier followed on from the Drakengard games and was especially renowned for its soundtrack.

�I instructed Okabe-san from MONACA, who composes the music for us, on the desired direction by sending him mp3�s and YouTube links of songs that I want him to use as reference. Normally, it�s rude to do this to a composer but I�ve known Okabe-san for a very long time, so I can ask for favors like this. He actually might not have been happy about it though.�

While the original Nier was a big shift away in terms of how the Drakengard games worked, the games are still connected in a narrative sense to the recently release Nier: Automata.

�The Drakengard and Nier series are within the same world but this game takes place more than 10,000 years apart from the others. Please do not worry about having to play them all, as you can enjoy this without having any knowledge of the others. Actually, I think you�ll become more confused if you know all of those games.

�The first thing I mentioned to Platinum Games when we started working together was that �I don�t want to make Nier: Automata a sequel of the series, but rather create it as if it were a new title. This is why I won�t number the title. Let�s create something new together.� I still feel the same way, so the answer to the question on how it fits into the overall narrative of the series would be that �it doesn�t fit in.�

What is also slightly different about Nier: Automata is how it is being developed by Platinum Games and how Yoko was involved in the process. This is because the original studio behind these games, that of Cavia, was shut down in 2010.

�In order to develop this game, I had temporarily stationed myself in Osaka (where Platinum Games is located), away from my family. I reign over the team as the director but I�m actually just drinking beer and loafing around. So, the young staff there had created the game in its entirety.

�Since Platinum Games is the developer for the latest installment, the action sequences are very sophisticated. However, it also retains elements from the previous title, such as the unique changes in gameplay. This was made possible because the staff at Platinum liked and respected the previous title.

�In any case, Nier: Automata is not a perfect game. But I am proud of everything in it.�

Now that Nier: Automata�s development has come to an end, I was also curious as to what Yoko would be up to next.

�As for the future, I am thinking of returning to being unemployed. I get bored very fast, so I would like to do something new. Something like a restaurant is attractive. It does seem to be a very tough job though.�

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Oxygen Deficiency: May 19, 2008

Look Sir Droids posted:

I bought this game on PC this weekend!

I died in the prologue. I am bad at this game. I'm glad I knew going in that dying in the prologue starts you back at the beginning.

Definitely need to rework the controls. I'm using an Xbox 360 controller. Dodge just doesn't make much sense to me on the trigger. I keep wanting to do Dark Souls things. Also lock on works kind of weird.

I went into this game with the mentality of other platinum games and felt that getting hit a lot and losing health means i'm really bad at the game. It turns out getting hit a few times isn't actually a huge deal and healing items are plentiful, not to mention there's no grades so you're not punished for using them.

It still feels like Bayonetta though. In a good way.

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Nina: Oct 9, 2016; Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)

This game is just what Platinum needed I feel. It proves that you can and should apply the Platinum formula of gameplay design to genres other than highly skill intensive character action.

But it also makes me even sadder that nothing came out of Scalebound

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Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

Oxygen Deficiency posted:

What were peoples end-game setups? I went with double fists, wire/slow, overclock and deadly heal chips and it was tons of fun. Especially when controlling A2 in berserker mode

engine blade/faith makes you attack really fast and that's all I needed

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Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

How do I get to the photograph area that's in a part of the desert it won't let me go to? I assume I'm missing something obvious but a sandstorm pops up to stop me getting out that far.

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RanKizama: Apr 22, 2015; Shinobi Heart

Manatee Cannon posted:

engine blade/faith makes you attack really fast and that's all I needed

Speed is everything for me as well. I have a bad habit of running barefisted in my second weapon slot because having just one sword on my back looks cool and I like the idea of my female android whooping rear end with just normal punches and kicks. This doesn't tend to work out well in boss fights though.

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Trojan Kaiju: Feb 13, 2012

Sakurazuka posted:

How do I get to the photograph area that's in a part of the desert it won't let me go to? I assume I'm missing something obvious but a sandstorm pops up to stop me getting out that far.

Cling to the invisible wall towards the right until you can move forward, then go left

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Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Trojan Kaiju posted:

Cling to the invisible wall towards the right until you can move forward, then go left

Hah, thanks.

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Oxygen Deficiency: May 19, 2008

Sakurazuka posted:

How do I get to the photograph area that's in a part of the desert it won't let me go to? I assume I'm missing something obvious but a sandstorm pops up to stop me getting out that far.

You can get there through a sort-of-tunnel path that leads around by the right edge of the desert map as you enter from the camp.

Speaking of the desert, I accidentally discovered the pile of Emil heads which, if I hadn't finished his quest earlier, would probably have been extra disturbing.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 17:00

Rainuwastaken: Oct 30, 2012; Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

kirbysuperstar posted:

Right after you get a pop up telling you you can taunt proper, one shows up after saying "Taunt - Mash L3". So, 1/4th through Route C?

It also tells you this when you first equip a Taunt plug-in chip, which was about four hours into the game for me.

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Squallege: Jan 7, 2006; No greater good, no just cause; Grimey Drawer

The end of the Soul Box is one of my favorite scenes in the game. It was the big tipping point of how far 9S had fallen and he still had much further to go :stare:

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OddObserver: Apr 3, 2009

A certain enemy type makes me wonder if someone on the team was a Serious Sam fan...

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Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Oxygen Deficiency posted:

You can get there through a sort-of-tunnel path that leads around by the right edge of the desert map as you enter from the camp.

Speaking of the desert, I accidentally discovered the pile of Emil heads which, if I hadn't finished his quest earlier, would probably have been extra disturbing.

Ah god I just found them aaaaaaaa

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Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

I found them without having done his quest and I was just amused

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lets hang out: Jan 10, 2015

They're mostly buried the first time you visit, you might have run over the tops of them if you explored early.

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Vermain: Sep 5, 2006

Cephas posted:

Route B: One of the things I thought was really clever was how playing as 9S with 2B following you around makes you realize how little 2B actually talks. Most of the game is 9S sarcastically commenting on things with absolutely no response from 2B. She'll occasionally say things like "What's this?" but rarely even to him. So most of Route B you're playing 9S basically just talking to himself. But even then, 9S is still like "Hanging out with 2B is so much nicer than working alone! "

It's a great use of perspective change, especially with how brusque the Operator is. (Route C spoilers): It also only further helps to highlight the separation that forms the core of route C. The world feels dead without the constant chatter of the first two routes, which perfectly ties in to A2's separation from other people and 9S's slow descent into nihilistic madness.

Speaking of route C: I just finished it and what a god drat great time that was. The tandem battle on the ascent up the Tower is so well done, and the story takes such a dark-but-believable twist with that arm rip. There was a genuine sense of awe that I had when A2 was climbing up the tower of 9S's memories.

Vermain fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Mar 20, 2017

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Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Do I need to keep Machine Cores for anything, they sell for a ton of money. Not that I really need much now I guess.

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Mordiceius: Nov 10, 2007; If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Question regarding endings C/D/E and working on completion:

Im pretty sure I accidentally spoiled myself on the fact it's possible to sacrifice your save like the original NieR, so I don't want to do that until I get the platinum. I got the D ending before the C ending (by picking 9S before A2). Then I went back to do the C ending and it seemed to transition straight into the E ending. I turned the game off for fear of being told to sacrifice the save. Am I safe to do it?

If there is a save sacrifice, is it after the E ending?

Basically what I'm trying to ask is:

Can I get the E ending and then go back and work on the Platinum trophy or should I do that before the E ending?

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lets hang out: Jan 10, 2015

No you can sell them. If you want to be Optimal only sell as many as you need to because they're worth more later in the game but it's really not a big deal

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Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Sakurazuka posted:

Do I need to keep Machine Cores for anything, they sell for a ton of money. Not that I really need much now I guess.

Sell em, they go up in value later in the game though, so I'd just sell them when needed until they reach a better sell value

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Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Cool I'll hang on to them for now, it's been a long time since I've been hurting for money anyway.

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Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

you'll change your tune on the money front once you get to upgrading everything (especially if you're like me and just buy the materials instead of farming for them), so holding onto those is def a good move

# ? Mar 20, 2017 17:40

Instant Grat: Jul 31, 2009; Just add
NERD RAAAAAAGE

Once again, for everyone playing this on PC: A mod was released yesterday which fixes the fullscreen resolution bug currently affecting the game. I've written up a fairly detailed post about it on Reddit, which details what the bug is, how to install the fix, and how to deal with the most common problems that people are having with regards to getting it running. Click here for the deets.

I also put together a comparison gallery, to give you an idea of how the game looks before and after applying the mod (no spoilers, only screens from the first 10 minutes of the game): Linky

# ? Mar 20, 2017 17:42

RanKizama: Apr 22, 2015; Shinobi Heart

Mordiceius posted:

Question regarding endings C/D/E and working on completion:

Im pretty sure I accidentally spoiled myself on the fact it's possible to sacrifice your save like the original NieR, so I don't want to do that until I get the platinum. I got the D ending before the C ending (by picking 9S before A2). Then I went back to do the C ending and it seemed to transition straight into the E ending. I turned the game off for fear of being told to sacrifice the save. Am I safe to do it?

If there is a save sacrifice, is it after the E ending?

Basically what I'm trying to ask is:

Can I get the E ending and then go back and work on the Platinum trophy or should I do that before the E ending?

Someone please answer this guy because I'm in a state of panic wondering the same thing as I'm getting really close to this point.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 17:42

Sefal: Nov 8, 2011; Fun Shoe

Mordiceius posted:

Question regarding endings C/D/E and working on completion:

Im pretty sure I accidentally spoiled myself on the fact it's possible to sacrifice your save like the original NieR, so I don't want to do that until I get the platinum. I got the D ending before the C ending (by picking 9S before A2). Then I went back to do the C ending and it seemed to transition straight into the E ending. I turned the game off for fear of being told to sacrifice the save. Am I safe to do it?

If there is a save sacrifice, is it after the E ending?

Basically what I'm trying to ask is:

Can I get the E ending and then go back and work on the Platinum trophy or should I do that before the E ending?

Yes, you can get ending E without deleting your save. During the ending the game will prompt you if you want to delete it. say no and you can keep playing with the save after getting ending E

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Alder: Sep 24, 2013

Where are the other male YorHa androids? I've cleared 66% side quests and I've not met anyone other than my little brother 9S.

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Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

RanKizama posted:

Someone please answer this guy because I'm in a state of panic wondering the same thing as I'm getting really close to this point.

The answer to that:

Save sacrifice is after ending E. It's not mandatory and it asks you to confirm like 6 times.

Alder posted:

Where are the other male YorHa androids? I've cleared 66% side quests and I've not met anyone other than my little brother 9S.

Other scanner units show up in side-quests but there aren't loads and loads of them. You may have already seen one and forgotten about him. The dude who puts YoRHa chips in the S type body

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HellCopter: Feb 9, 2012; College Slice

There are some other (male-only) scanners hanging around.

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Nina: Oct 9, 2016; Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)

The D-unit from a weapon story seems male too but you can't really be sure. So far it's safe to assume S-units are the sole male YoRHa

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Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Nina posted:

The D-unit from a weapon story seems male too but you can't really be sure. So far it's safe to assume S-units are the sole male YoRHa

I think there's a D unit in the intro, no? If so, I'm almost certain it has a female death cry.

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RanKizama: Apr 22, 2015; Shinobi Heart

Josuke Higashikata posted:

The answer to that:

Save sacrifice is after ending E. It's not mandatory and it asks you to confirm like 6 times.

Oh, good deal. Thanks for clarifying!

So...

What's the point of deleting your data then?

# ? Mar 20, 2017 17:59

Nina: Oct 9, 2016; Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I think there's a D unit in the intro, no? If so, I'm almost certain it has a female death cry.

Actually now that you mention it you're right. Just S it is then.

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Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

RanKizama posted:

Oh, good deal. Thanks for clarifying!

So...

What's the point of deleting your data then?

You'll see when the time comes.

Nina posted:

Actually now that you mention it you're right. Just S it is then.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I think there's a D unit in the intro, no? If so, I'm almost certain it has a female death cry.

There is one, 1D is the original captain, but there's no voice cry when it dies unlike some others in the intro.

As for the types unexplained in game, the stage play site explains them.
D is defender and H is healer. I don't recall F if it even is one.

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