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SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

GeminiSun posted:

I got mad and shat out this Linkite redesign in like half an hour.



Voila. Still a sad pokemon ghost, still looks like a substitute doll, still bound to its pokeball. But hopefully cuter, better designed, and less Banksy. I turned the tears into markings on its cheeks a la Yamask, to make it Look Sad without necessarily having to be actually crying for every moment of its existence, and echoed that visual element elsewhere to unify the design.

This is good because the more dark a Pokemon's dex entry is the cuter it should be imo.

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Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

SyntheticPolygon posted:

This is good because the more dark a Pokemon's dex entry is the cuter it should be imo.

proof: cubone

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Herr Tog posted:

proof: cubone

see also: Drifloom

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Wait, so

Linkite is bound to a pokeball because it died in a pokeball. How exactly can it be a wild pokemon that you catch in ANOTHER pokeball?

or do you get it some other way that would spoil the LP if discussed inthread?

Alopex
May 31, 2012

This is the sleeve I have chosen.
Now this is a critter I could see in the touchscreen petting mini games.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

loquacius posted:

Wait, so

Linkite is bound to a pokeball because it died in a pokeball. How exactly can it be a wild pokemon that you catch in ANOTHER pokeball?

or do you get it some other way that would spoil the LP if discussed inthread?

No you were right the first time. It's weird.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Herr Tog posted:

proof: cubone

I still standby Cubone is a baby Kangaskhan. Which confuses me because then what is Marowak?

Also Alolan Marowak is the poo poo. Fire/Ghost instead of single Ground typing? :getin: Also looks boss.

Edit: Oh man Alolan poke's in general. Fuckin' Alolan Ninetails is an Ice/Fairy? Alolan Muk is RAINBOW and has the Dark typing as well? Shiiiiiiiiiit.

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Mar 21, 2017

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

GeminiSun posted:

I got mad and shat out this Linkite redesign in like half an hour.



Voila. Still a sad pokemon ghost, still looks like a substitute doll, still bound to its pokeball. But hopefully cuter, better designed, and less Banksy. I turned the tears into markings on its cheeks a la Yamask, to make it Look Sad without necessarily having to be actually crying for every moment of its existence, and echoed that visual element elsewhere to unify the design.

This is really good.

Now do the evolution. :v:

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

turn off the TV posted:

Now do the evolution. :v:

:confused:

Okay?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

GeminiSun posted:

I got mad and shat out this Linkite redesign in like half an hour.



Voila. Still a sad pokemon ghost, still looks like a substitute doll, still bound to its pokeball. But hopefully cuter, better designed, and less Banksy. I turned the tears into markings on its cheeks a la Yamask, to make it Look Sad without necessarily having to be actually crying for every moment of its existence, and echoed that visual element elsewhere to unify the design.

That's significantly better.

magikid posted:

I feel like when people want dark and edgy, what they're actually looking for is atmospheric. A heavy atmosphere can stir up emotions subtly and make you feel uneasy without resorting to cringeworthy "mature" topics or some kind of deathmetal bloodfest. I think atmospheric games are what inspire these guys, but when you don't know how to interpret that you end up with the latter two.

Atmospheric is Ocarina of Time. Dark and edgy is Shadow the Hedgehog.

Speaking of which, where's that drat fourth Gym Badge? :argh:

And the evil regional team, for that matter. Don't they usually show up after the first badge?

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

Gridlocked posted:

I still standby Cubone is a baby Kangaskhan. Which confuses me because then what is Marowak?

Also Alolan Marowak is the poo poo. Fire/Ghost instead of single Ground typing? :getin: Also looks boss.

Edit: Oh man Alolan poke's in general. Fuckin' Alolan Ninetails is an Ice/Fairy? Alolan Muk is RAINBOW and has the Dark typing as well? Shiiiiiiiiiit.

If Cubone is a baby Kangaskhan, Marowak is just a branching evolution with really morbid conditions.

No wait. Baby Kangaskhan is the 'baby' form, then it branches into Cubone/Kangaskhan based on whether or not its parents are alive. We just can never breed/meet the baby in the wild because you need some dumb incense. Earth Incense.

Also Alolan Muk is a total shitwrecker.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

loquacius posted:

Wait, so

Linkite is bound to a pokeball because it died in a pokeball. How exactly can it be a wild pokemon that you catch in ANOTHER pokeball?

or do you get it some other way that would spoil the LP if discussed inthread?

Same way you catch Voltorb probably.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

turn off the TV posted:

This is really good.

Now do the evolution. :v:

How about we wait for OFS to get there first

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
It's a trade evolution.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

magikid posted:

Atmospheric is Ocarina of Time MAJORA'S MASK. Dark and edgy is Shadow the Hedgehog.

Fixed.

FishOnAPiano
Oct 9, 2012

Arcade Rabbit posted:

From what I've seen, Sage does some really weird stuff with it's evolutions. Like, branching evols determined by Ice Heal or Burn Heal. It's absurd, but the context and design make it understandable why they evolve that way. From a gameplay perspective, it is very awkward though. But again, this is one of those things that a canon game would never touch, so I'm pretty okay with a fanhack giving it a try.

The canon games have pokemon that require a dark type pokemon to be in the team alongside in order to evolve, two that only evolve when specifically traded with each other, one that evolves into two different pokemon simultaneously if you have a spare slot in your party and one that loving requires you to turn your game upside-down to evolve. I don't think we can call out fangames having weird evolution requirements as a thing. Though maybe having too many of them might be a fair complaint.

EDIT: and half of these were already covered by people a page and a half ago because I am a dingus

FishOnAPiano fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Mar 21, 2017

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Schubalts posted:

It's a trade evolution.

Theo will get its evolution eventually, and a few other trainers have one, and even then I do get one myself.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Honestly, the Ice Heal one is a bit egregious even with GF's own occasionally absurd evolutionary requirements taken into account. There are only like 5 moves(Blizzard, Ice Beam, Ice Punch, Ice Fang, Tri Attack) in the entire game that cause the Freeze condition, all of them are high power moves, and 3 of them only have a 10% chance of causing it. And the two that have a 20% chance both have multiple potential status procs attached to that percentage which means the chance of Freeze is even lower with those. Even if you're fully aware of that evolutionary requirement it's a pain in the rear end to actually do, which most of the others mentioned (aside from trades) aren't - they're absurd to figure out, but relatively easily done once the conditions are known.

Hell, I've gone through entire playthroughs without seeing the Freeze condition pop up.

serefin99
Apr 15, 2016

Mikoooon~
Your lovely shrine maiden fox wife, Tamamo no Mae, is here to help!

Lord Koth posted:

Honestly, the Ice Heal one is a bit egregious even with GF's own occasionally absurd evolutionary requirements taken into account. There are only like 5 moves(Blizzard, Ice Beam, Ice Punch, Ice Fang, Tri Attack) in the entire game that cause the Freeze condition, all of them are high power moves, and 3 of them only have a 10% chance of causing it. And the two that have a 20% chance both have multiple potential status procs attached to that percentage which means the chance of Freeze is even lower with those. Even if you're fully aware of that evolutionary requirement it's a pain in the rear end to actually do, which most of the others mentioned (aside from trades) aren't - they're absurd to figure out, but relatively easily done once the conditions are known.

Hell, I've gone through entire playthroughs without seeing the Freeze condition pop up.

Except you don't need it to be frozen, you need it to hold an Ice Heal. And it is trivial to go to literally any store in the game and just buy one, and that's assuming you didn't pick one up during your travels, since the games love to throw freebie status healers of all types at you.

Arcade Rabbit
Nov 11, 2013

You don't have to cure the condition, I believe it just needs to level up while holding the item. The really crazy part is that the branching evolutions are stage two, and both of them evolve in to the same stage three pokemon. The branches are just detours that let you get either Ice or Fire moves on it.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Arcade Rabbit posted:

The really crazy part is that the branching evolutions are stage two, and both of them evolve in to the same stage three pokemon. The branches are just detours that let you get either Ice or Fire moves on it.
:psyduck:

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...




it's a really cool evo line

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
that is cool and great

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received


PU-Route 8.ogg

If it's familiar it's because this is from Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.

This route is a peaceful wheat field. The music lends it almost too much calm.


The game is not subtle about how hosed it's going to be soon.


There's a house with a free heal and a PC, thankfully.


It is hours with how bad this game's fishing mechanics are! *laugh track that melts into braying donkeys*


We get a new rod out of it though. This gates, like, nothing, since most of the waterways we've already seen will give us Forelogs and higher level Magikarp.


And this guy isn't available in any previous route.


For all the water-types I do end up using, this is almost quaint. An early stone evolution might make it worth it to you, if playing Uranium were "worth it".


Cornn berries have no direct function and exist exclusively to be cooked into things that increase contest stats. Uranium has nothing of the sort, rendering them pointless.


Route 8's grasses have Missy-D.

While they do get Hex at level 23, Misdreavus really wants Shadow Ball and it doesn't get it until level 41, and the TM is located at the point it should be level 41 anyway. A Mismagius without Shadow Ball is like a Medusa Head without a sine-wave flight path; just a decapitated head, you know?


Cottonee is here too. You already have the Giga Drain TM so pop that baby and evolve this stupid thing into Saci, if you want to. Prankster Stun Spore works as well here as it ever has (which is rather well).


Zapmander went from coughing bulb-butt dog to Guile hippocamp!

Electruxo is hardcore as gently caress. It's resilient as gently caress with 95/95/105 defenses, and its other stats are solid enough. Water/Electric is really good typing to have, too.

You may be asking why I stopped using him until he hit level 27, well, that's because he evolved at level 27. The Tandor starters only have one evolution, and they're supposed to make up for it by having Mega Evolutions down the line. What it does in practice is that Zapmander got really lame for a bit there then he went home became a family man and is now a huge badass.




The AI won't do what real players would and switch to a flying-type, so Dig is a pretty decent move for in-game. High power Ground moves are some things' job.


Tancoon's evolved form Tanscure is the official filler for npc trainers across the region. Thankfully it gives a real EXP reward.


Oh, hey, you're an infrequent random encounter here.


I refused to accept Righty.


Oh poo poo. Put on your fedoras, we're going there.

Well, we aren't, actually, it's just going to tiptoe awkwardly around this for no clear reason.



PU-VinovilleTown.ogg

This is a remix of Pallet Town. That's what you do with the place with the 4th gym, right? Homage starting towns?

Better than the 5th at least. Hoo boy.


It's "religious" in that NPCs speak like this, which sounds more like a cult, but that'd, like, make all this poo poo have a point.


The Pokemon Center is all the way in this corner, safely nestled away from things that would cause progress.




This game worked with 4th generation TMs but uses 6th generation mechanics, meaning Bullet Seed went from a lovely starting move to a legitimate physical grass move. Its average power is a hair below 80.

Between that and Dig, Deeznuts has those high-power physical STABs its been missing. Cocancer, statistically, is a brick shithouse. 90/120/115 defenses almost make you forget how bad grass/ground is defensively, 95 attack works well enough, and its speed and special attack blow.

Also it has special Halloween event sprites.




Back on route 8 is this lady.


Her name is Ripley because reference. What kind of reference?


Why, alie-


I was getting to that.


Anyway we're gonna help this lady with aliens because she has trouble keeping watch all night.


Did I mention it's a stealth mission?


You can't get in the line of sight of one of the li'l aliens. This is clearly what you should do when making RPG Maker XP straaaaaaain at being a Pokemon game.


It's not long or difficult, it's just... why.


Oh yeah, Boss Alien.


Unlike previous minibosses, this one is straight immune to capture. Steel/Psychic with Levitate pretty hard for most things to crack, but I have a secret weapon.


Dumbledore is immune to its psychic attacks and manages to land a burn with Fire Blast, and can sorta tank it with Drain Life anyway.


Afterwards, we reveal the culprit:


A nerd?!?!


OH gently caress WE JUST GOT BAZINGA'D


Sheldon is bored out of his mind as he's a turbo-nerd in a farming community because [???].


He's also the gym leader, so we're gonna have to big bang his theories.

Or something.


She just said "sigh".


At least she has one of the little aliens for us because... uh...


There's no chance to save between the S51-A and this, by the way. Uranium is usually better about this.


We bazoople the alien into the team.


Uuuuuunfortunately we're reaching the point where I slather on thick layers of bullshit so a mere defensively-gifted goober with a late evolution and no good STAB moves isn't gonna cut it.


Transition shot.


This is a reference to Village Bridge, a town in Black/White and their sequels that has a very simple background track at base but talking to certain NPCs adds more layers to the music.

It's far, far better than anything Uranium has in it.


Seriously this is kind of intense.


Why are these people only saying, like, incantations.

Is there a technical term for this, can any bishops comment (only bishops allowed)


There's a church and it has books, because the best way to worldbuild is text dumps a mile away from anything the text is about.

tl;dr my original characters blonic and blails, but w/r/t heatran


tl;dr our yin-yang pair of legendaries are kinda literal compared to Reshiram and Zekrom.

Surprise! There's two other text dumps! Because both tiles of each bookcase has its own!

tl;dr there's an rear end in a top hat glowing in the bottom of the ocean

tl;dr our literal yin-yang created the universe

By the way, of the five legendary Pokemon in this, only two are actually fully implemented. The rest exist in the data but are in incomplete states.


Anyway, that's enough MYTH and WORLDBUILDING delivered via textwalls. Let's go bazinga some theories.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Theo will get its evolution eventually, and a few other trainers have one, and even then I do get one myself.

well poo poo


Thank you

XavierGenisi
Nov 7, 2009

:dukedog:

BAZINGA!

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?





This thing is adorable and could see it being an actual Pokemon.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
"The Gym Leader is pretending to be an alien because he's bored" is actually a pretty amusing idea. Tells you something about him as a person, at least.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

So, wait, the alien leader was a Scooby-Doo villain, but all the other aliens were real aliens

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Herr Tog posted:

this thread is officially a goon project now. someone please redo the starters now thank you

Same thing happened in the Quartz LP. :cheeky:

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

loquacius posted:

So, wait, the alien leader was a Scooby-Doo villain, but all the other aliens were real aliens

S-51A is one of Sheldon's Pokemon. The other ones are just wild little S-51 that followed it I guess because it's big and imposing.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

I just can't parse this. I know they wanted the legs on the left to be individually distinct but instead it looks like the right legs are parallel to the floor while the left legs attach to the body on a 45-degree angle.

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe
In response to just about everything in this update.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Dexie posted:



This thing is adorable and could see it being an actual Pokemon.


I'm getting way too nitpicky here, but it feels like a gomamon trace? It's the pose and the weird underdeveloped flipperlimbs that are doing it, I think.

ohmygorgon
Jul 13, 2016
Well this was a strange update. Why do the starters evolve at 27? Three stage Pokemon generally evolve too late as it is, but your starter? That's ridiculous. For all the things they include just because "it's always in Pokemon," you'd think they'd keep something so simple.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

ohmygorgon posted:

Well this was a strange update. Why do the starters evolve at 27? Three stage Pokemon generally evolve too late as it is, but your starter? That's ridiculous. For all the things they include just because "it's always in Pokemon," you'd think they'd keep something so simple.

OFS talked about that.

It's because the starters are apparently two-stage trash with mega evolutions.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

ohmygorgon posted:

Well this was a strange update. Why do the starters evolve at 27? Three stage Pokemon generally evolve too late as it is, but your starter? That's ridiculous. For all the things they include just because "it's always in Pokemon," you'd think they'd keep something so simple.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

The Tandor starters only have one evolution,

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Uuuuuunfortunately we're reaching the point where I slather on thick layers of bullshit
:getin:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Only 2 legendaries. That's surprising.

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rannum
Nov 3, 2012

PoptartsNinja posted:

OFS talked about that.

It's because the starters are apparently two-stage trash with mega evolutions.

Except they're not really trash? Taking a look at the wiki they have 530-550 BST, that's higher than several actual starters' final forms.

Considering you get them at level 27 that's a pretty sizable stat different compared with the rest of the pokemon, I imagine.

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