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It's been mentioned that martian marines train extensively throughout their careers at 1g. It wouldn't be a new experience at all to Draper.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:It's been mentioned that martian marines train extensively throughout their careers at 1g. It wouldn't be a new experience at all to Draper. Book Draper and several other characters realize that training at 1g and living at 1g are very different things.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:59
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:The director can always come up with an excuse to have people move around. And given that they do something to acknowledge the discomfort the martians are experiencing under earth gravity, they could have played it up and probably improved the scene IMO. These are all really good suggestions and as good as the show is, it sometimes suffers from pretty uncreative direction. It sometimes feels like everyone's just standing and reading their dialog from the book because why would they move around it doesn't mention that in the book????
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Mar 21, 2017 01:27
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Smiling Jack posted:Book Draper and several other characters realize that training at 1g and living at 1g are very different things. right, but having her struggle to walk across a room would be silly
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Mar 21, 2017 01:39
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What use would training at 1g if she gets tired walking around a conference at 1g? Are Martian marines going to take naps in crash couches between firefights when they show up to drink the rivers dry and crush
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Mar 21, 2017 01:54
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Phi230 posted:then you shouldn't have even started watching the show because literally the first scene in the entire series is about the protomolecule timp posted:In both cases it's a lot easier for me to play along when the magic/alien poo poo is introduced when they've painstakingly set the stage without it first. Solkanar512 posted:Did I misinterpret it, or was it implied that Amos had that brain magnetization thing done to him? I didn't see anyone mention it but I figured folks would.
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Mar 21, 2017 02:57
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Baronjutter posted:A well written scify can be "hard" but not go into useless wanky engineering chat. The problem of course is the only people with the background to write believable hard scify tend to be STEM/Engineering types and they just can't not go into detail because what else are they going to write, human dialog??? Pfft that's social "science" crap. I've probably read some Hard Sci-fi that wasn't just a technical manual. Like i'd certainly say Story of your life is a Hard Sci-Fi story because it deals with linguistics and the difficulty of communicating with beings that don't even think like you do. I had anthology of sci-fi stories and one of the stories spent 4 pages describing how the fuel goes from the tanks to the engines. The rest of the story did not get any better.
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Mar 21, 2017 03:24
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I thought the Amos/Scientist discussion was more of a "Why retain ANY humanity? You can kill the rest of that off you know." Then Amos went off on a bender because he knows he is broken but isn't sure what direction to take things in.
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Mar 21, 2017 03:47
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Just watched the first three eps of season 2, gotta say... hot drat that was cool. Also, Tom Jane is the coolest man alive.
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Mar 21, 2017 03:49
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OMGVBFLOL posted:right, but having her struggle to walk across a room would be silly Agreed. I imagine the cumulative effect over several days would lead to fatigue, both from physical exertion and sleep disruption. When you think about it 1 earth g is 3 Martian g, simple poo poo like breathing while sleeping becomes three times as hard.
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Mar 21, 2017 03:52
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OMGVBFLOL posted:was anyone else sorta vaguely disappointed when the protomolecule thing came to a head on eros? it just felt so... idk, the combination of reactionless drive, "huge living thing that rapidly overgrows everything" trope, and julie mao's resurrection/replication was just felt like a wave of soft-ish/fantastical elements that came at you pretty much all in the span of an episode, and after a season plus of pretty much the hardest sci fi that's ever been put to screen it kinda felt like a letdown. I'm a huge fan of the understated reaction to Eros being alien - Naomi and Amos doing some mental maths, Avasarala's face of resigned confusion, Holden 's blasé "okay, so we've broken a few laws of physics here".
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Mar 21, 2017 04:49
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Grand Fromage posted:Yes. If we are supposing a situation where we've had the tech to rebuild Mars' atmosphere then keeping it intact would be trivial. Whatever the rate of loss is, just keep your terraforming gas factories putting out that amount of gas and you're good. http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a25493/magnetic-shield-mars-atmosphere/
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Mar 21, 2017 05:52
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Wrap a huge superconducting cable around the Martian Equator to give the planet an artificial magnetic field, is only because aurorę look cool.
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Mar 21, 2017 05:54
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Smiling Jack posted:Agreed. Additionally, all your reflexes are going to be keyed to lower gravity, so handling objects and things like recovering from tripping would all be messed up too. Astronauts have talked about how after long missions on the ISS, they'll try to leave things like cups or remotes hanging in space when they want to set them aside and just drop them. Astronauts have also talked about how heavy you feel after you come back from space. Even though they are physically in very good shape, it takes time to readjust to full gravity. I imagine a Martian - even one with extensive 1G training - would find adapting to living at Earth gravity difficult.
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Mar 21, 2017 06:20
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Some of you people. There's a hearing and y'all complaining that people do the appropriate thing and just sit still? Really? Might as well complain about some more explosive decompression.
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Mar 21, 2017 06:39
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I remember when I would watch Law & Order and see SAm Waterston walk over to the witness to ask an important question and think "No. Nooo."
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Mar 21, 2017 06:46
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Tiggum posted:people in this thread will not shut the gently caress up about book stuff yeah that seems to be the case. unless people want to fork the discussion (like the AV Club did with Game of Thrones) into "read the books" and "haven't read the books" im out e: actually a "haven't read the books" thread would just get trolled into oblivion nvm Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 10:57
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I don't think people would care enough
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Mar 21, 2017 11:19
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Alternatively you could stop being a huge baby and just read the books.
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Mar 21, 2017 15:59
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In the books the protomolecule turns everyone into huge babies.
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Mar 21, 2017 16:23
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Baronjutter posted:It sometimes feels like everyone's just standing and reading their dialog from the book because why would they move around it doesn't mention that in the book????
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Mar 21, 2017 17:34
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Number Ten Cocks posted:In the books the protomolecule turns everyone into huge babies. No, that's 2001: A Space Odyssey and I think it's just the one guy.
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Mar 21, 2017 17:43
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ATP_Power posted:There isn't nearly enough shots of people scowling and putting partially eaten meals into the food recycler to be taking stage directions only from the books. Truth. Only one (future) character finishes their food. Every scene on the Roci should have at least one person eating, then throwing the rest of the food away.
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Mar 21, 2017 17:51
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I think all the martians on earth should be poopin' their pants during the meeting because their weak low-gravity bowels can't hold their poo poo in when faced with mighty earth gravity. I think it would have added some meaningful motion and a touch of levity to the situation.
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Baronjutter posted:I think all the martians on earth should be poopin' their pants during the meeting because their weak low-gravity bowels can't hold their poo poo in when faced with mighty earth gravity. I think it would have added some meaningful motion and a touch of levity to the situation. This man knows what I want to see.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:53
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Episode 9 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_fhxDZyTgk Directorial criticisms aside, the utter contempt Aghdashloo shows here is absolutely hilarious.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:56
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From just the preview scene, the Martians trying to use Bobbie's testimony as a key to their reconciling with Earth while trying to keep the exact details of what happened to their Marines hazy seems like a terrible plan, especially without any other evidence. Last thing you want if you're trying to bury a military incident is an obviously traumatized soldier babbling about someone running around outside on Ganymede without a pressure suit as she's trying to feed you an official line that's obviously not her opinion.
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Mar 21, 2017 20:06
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I know this is pedantic, but isn't "We fired on the Earthers before they fired on us," a true statement she could make that would gel with what she's saying happened and the line Mars wants to sell? And, if pushed, "We believed we saw them firing on us." This is one point where I'm not totally understanding the sticking point of the drama.
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Mar 21, 2017 20:42
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I'm almost certain the chaplain is in on the Protogen conspiracy. Unless he's biding his time to figure out if the UN is connected to the blue man, I don't see why he would want to bury that info.
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MizPiz posted:I'm almost certain the chaplain is in on the Protogen conspiracy. Unless he's biding his time to figure out if the UN is connected to the blue man, I don't see why he would want to bury that info. Right. Mao's alternate benefactor is definitely someone high up in the MRCN or Mars Gov- possibly a connection he made even while he was dealing with Errinwright.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I know this is pedantic, but isn't "We fired on the Earthers before they fired on us," a true statement she could make that would gel with what she's saying happened and the line Mars wants to sell? And, if pushed, "We believed we saw them firing on us." This is one point where I'm not totally understanding the sticking point of the drama. I don't think they did fire on the Earthers. They teamed up with them to fight the alien. She's just having trouble remembering.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I don't think they did fire on the Earthers. They teamed up with them to fight the alien. She's just having trouble remembering. I also think she's having a hard time accepting or wanting to believe she saw a goddamn alien monster thing. Everyone would think she was nuts if she just said they were fighting an alien.
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Fister Roboto posted:Alternatively you could stop being a huge baby and just read the books. How would that help? The problem is that people discussing the books in the TV thread is annoying. It would still be annoying if I'd read the books, because this is supposed to be the thread for discussing the TV show, not the books.
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Tiggum posted:How would that help? The problem is that people discussing the books in the TV thread is annoying. It would still be annoying if I'd read the books, because this is supposed to be the thread for discussing the TV show, not the books. It is Game of Thrones in Space
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Baronjutter posted:lol that's the absolute garbage canadian attempt at netflix and is renown for being poo poo and teetering on the edge of shutting down because no one wants that poo poo. I could have sworn I saw Netflix saying they got international distribution rights but I guess Canada gets hosed again thanks to our lovely telecoms
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Dreylad posted:I could have sworn I saw Netflix saying they got international distribution rights but I guess Canada gets hosed again thanks to our lovely telecoms For netflix international means "everywhere except the US.... oh and canada" gets my hopes up every time. Canada generally gets the worst of both worlds. We'll not have what ever show on netflix, but we'll also not have access to the US cable channel we'll have some awful more expensive canadian version that only comes in a +$30 a month bundle on top of a $50 a month package.
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Fister Roboto posted:Alternatively you could stop being a huge baby and just read the books. Alternatively you can stop being a huge baby and just read the loving OP. AlternateAccount posted:Lastly, but not at all least, please be cool about book stuff. Keep it in its own thread. I imagine it's cool to mention things that have already happened and even discuss differences and expound on show happenings as long as you're not spoiling future stuff.
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All that chat about the preview and nothing about Avasarala's smiling "Wherever I goddamn liiiiiike"? Come on thread!
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Fister Roboto posted:Alternatively you could stop being a huge baby and just read the books. gently caress this attitude. You're a dick. There's a whole book thread where you can literally discuss anything. How hard is it to NOT say something in this thread regarding the books if it's not come up in the show yet? Spoiler: it's not. You assholes just get a semi from ruining poo poo for others. Be cool. Goddamn.
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Dreylad posted:All that chat about the preview and nothing about Avasarala's smiling "Wherever I goddamn liiiiiike"? Come on thread! I liked her "Whoever the gently caress you are, sit down" comment.
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