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500 good dogs posted:who would be pumped about going to mars? Passengers was a good film with some amazing sfx. As for being put into stasis, I'd worry that my pod might malfunction because of a computer error or else just being a lemon. Or deliberately corrupted by someone with an Agenda, or one of those nasty critters from the Alien movies.
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King Possum III posted:Passengers was a good film with some amazing sfx.  
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i stopped binging on amphetamines, so that's cool ended up partaking in ruining pick's e/n thread about her wheelchair friend still unsure of the future of me and my best friend's friendship, trying to find other ways to deal that isn't snorting speed like no tomorrow to make myself feel better. also super proud of my sick new avatar, i think it captures exactly what i want you to see when you read my posts.
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one day, all I needed. took a dose tonight because i wanted to do a lot of stuff that i've been neglecting since im dealing with a disastrous personal life. got a lot done and forgot about the world outside for a while, so mission accomplished. almost out of it though, i need a restock.
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oh you just stopped the binging part
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god i'll never stop taking speed are you kidding me? sobriety is boring as hell and lets go down the list of other drugs im open to taking semi-regularly: -Salvia: Nope. No psychadelics. -LSD: Nope. No psychadelics. -Psilocybin: Nope. No psychadelics. -DMT: Nope. No psychadelics. -Booze: Nope. Alcohol blows. -Weed: Nope. No psychadelics. -Opiates: Nope. Hate painkillers. -Benzos: Nope. Hate downers. -Hal: Nope. Disassociatives suck unless they are psychadelics. -Ketamine: gently caress off. A few others I don't care to think of. I'm happy with my amphetamines. They make me feel good, make my thoughts explode in volume and quality, fight my ADD, among some other things. Just trying to not develop a dependence of any kind, spacing out my usage and not using it as a crutch for anything. SpaceClown's internal monologue posted:This is the last drug you can take to break life up, do not - for the love of god DO NOT - gently caress this up you stupid loving clown
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SpaceClown posted:god i'll never stop taking speed are you kidding me? Interesting stuff. My own drug of choice was pharmaceutical opioids. I was always curious about amphetamines, but never managed to find any before I gave up recreationals. Anyhow, I'm enjoying reading all the posts about them. Thanks for sharing your experiences, guys.
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I believe prescription opioids is how my cousin got into heroin. He was doing pills for years and then switched to heroin for a few years. Heroin is way cheaper and cleaner than it used to be so it's a sound choice. He's dead now. Last year on May 1st he was found after an overdose. I was there before the coroner got there. He was my best friend. Please don't do heroin people. I really blame a lot of it on the criminal justice system. He went to jail for heroin possession, became a felon, and then his life was 10x more difficult than it was before. Instead of throwing him in jail and keeping him on probation for years he should have had treatment. When he got out he couldn't get a job for a very long time because he was listed as a felon. He had a bachelors degree and was previously working in a sleep clinic. Then he was barely able to get a job at a cabinet making factory afterwards. He had to move back in with his parents who gave him so much poo poo all the time. His mom and mine are sisters and they can be quite unreasonably harsh. Well, not anymore for my mom. She went to NAMI meetings all the time and learned a lot about mental illness and is now my single best support. His mom however, went to Alanon meetings and they focus on how bad the person who is doing drugs is loving up your life. She went the tough love route and I think that really contributed to his death. I'm very mad but I'd never mention that to her though. Anyway, he couldn't get a place to live because again, he had that felon label. When he finally found a place it was a lovely apartment with, guess what, not so upstanding citizens living there. So he went to jail for heroin instead of getting treatment. Then the felon label turned him into a second class citizen at best. Then, due to the hardship all of this cost him, he got back into heroin and accidentally overdosed. Now he's dead.
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seriously guys how do you sleep without drinking? Fiancee wants to stop drinking during weeknights and like, feel like I didnt sleep at all last night and little sleep I got wasnt very deep 
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I believe prescription opioids is how my cousin got into heroin. He was doing pills for years and then switched to heroin for a few years. Heroin is way cheaper and cleaner than it used to be so it's a sound choice. He's dead now. Last year on May 1st he was found after an overdose. I was there before the coroner got there. He was my best friend. I don't say that as some like scare tactic but just to underline how we all as addicts have the same disease. Every time I think of going and buying dope that what I think of, dying. You want to live, don't you? I do. It doesn't require anything else except your heartbeat.
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Hardawn posted:Gonna have some sleepless nights at first Yeah there's no way around this it's gonna suck and it is going to be difficult but at the end of the day do you want to live your life? That's what you have to ask yourself.
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Jim Barris posted:You know that could just as easily be the end of your story. "Now he's dead." I guess I can't argue that. We both had the same life growing up due to the closeness of our moms. I'm not worried at all about drinking too much alcohol and drowning in my own vomit or something. I am however worried that I'll get the courage to shoot myself though. I'm on and off the fence about living. In fact now that my brain is starting to come back to reality, I've been thinking about it more which is a bit unsettling. I have a good support system with the VA though. I can always go on a vacation there for a while. BTW, we need stricter gun laws. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I guess I can't argue that. We both had the same life growing up due to the closeness of our moms. Don't hesitate to seek help if you feel like it is getting too intense. It's understandable that you would see some things worsen for a while - it takes a bit for your neurotransmitter levels to stabilize after you remove a stimulus which has been artificially altering their levels for a while. That's true of any pretty much any addiction, with or without bipolar as a complicating factor. I know it can be of little comfort in the moment, but the more time you put between yourself and the substance (or whatever addiction) the more things level out.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Don't hesitate to seek help if you feel like it is getting too intense. It's understandable that you would see some things worsen for a while - it takes a bit for your neurotransmitter levels to stabilize after you remove a stimulus which has been artificially altering their levels for a while. That's true of any pretty much any addiction, with or without bipolar as a complicating factor. I know it can be of little comfort in the moment, but the more time you put between yourself and the substance (or whatever addiction) the more things level out. That's what I'm hoping. The bipolar really throws a wrench in the gears because I have no way of telling if it's just my brain adjusting with the lack of alcohol or if it's my mental illness. It's a bit disheartening because I don't know what symptoms may go away or if they're here to stay. I've already noticed that I'm far less reserved and am quite blunt about everything which is something I REALLY have to look out for because I don't want to scare or push people away. Surprisingly the alcohol was suppressing my openness, in regards to possibly inappropriate actions. Now, I am excellent at putting on a good face so nothing has happened but I have to question everything in my brain to see if it's appropriate or not to say or do. Only time will tell how this pans out. Also, I think some people in here really deserve some sort of gift like plat or something. Some of you have PM'd me about this and it's interesting seeing the lovely goons talk to me behind their face on SA and expressing concern for me or offering support. That is very encouraging and even though I may not have messaged back too much, it's just amazing to see someone else care. Especially from these forums. I don't know how to do it but I'm pretty sure you can purchase an upgrade for other users. If I find some of you without plat or something and you haven't been a serious dick then you might see something coming your way. No promises though. But some of you really deserve it for being good people. I always appreciate that.
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Jim Barris posted:Yeah there's no way around this it's gonna suck and it is going to be difficult but at the end of the day do you want to live your life? That's what you have to ask yourself. its not even withdrawls though its just like brain wont shut off and it loving sucks
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Ok so I don't know how to buy someone plat. Do I need their email address? man, most of you nice fuckers have plat already.
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Nooner posted:its not even withdrawls though its just like brain wont shut off and it loving sucks You know that scene in X-Men: Days of Future Past where Charles stops taking that drug to help him walk and all of the voices start coming back into his head and he breaks down because he can't take it? Kinda feel like that? Because that's what I feel.
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Take 30 deep breathes then try to hold your breath for 2+ minutes
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The easiest way to deal with the restlessness (whether mental or physical) is to find something that requires two hands and full attention.
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satanic splash-back posted:The easiest way to deal with the restlessness (whether mental or physical) is to find something that requires two hands and full attention. pinball
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Double fisting yourself works
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Nooner posted:its not even withdrawls though its just like brain wont shut off and it loving sucks best advice i can give: just chill. just. chill.
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nooner's just a dorkus, he'll be fine
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best advice i ever got for craving drugs: just chill. do it. just chill. can't chill? don't worry, just chill. can't stop worrying? forget about it, just chill. etc.
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ive determined to harden my resolve so im supplementing my regular breakfast of boiled oats with a bowl of concrete
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Spirituality isn't so much about signing up for dogmatic Christian God but acknowledging the lack of control you actually can exercise in your life. Drunks in particular will sit and rage about the control they perceive they have when you really have even less than you'd think. Acknowledging this is something that leads to a sense of peace. Everything works out how it needs to because it couldn't any other way. You can see this thorough line through any religion or whatever
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Better Fred Than Dead posted:Spirituality isn't so much about signing up for dogmatic Christian God but acknowledging the lack of control you actually can exercise in your life. Drunks in particular will sit and rage about the control they perceive they have when you really have even less than you'd think. It's true. The most devout Christians I have ever known have been terrible criminals.
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Nonviolent J posted:Double fisting yourself works Hey, can you PM me your email associated with your account?
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Hey, can you PM me your email associated with your account? Oh Penny, you can't PM without plat. It's a chicken and egg problem for sure.
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How you doing, BTW, Penny? Still going strong?
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Ice Blue Mink posted:Oh Penny, you can't PM without plat. It's a chicken and egg problem for sure. lmao
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Better Fred Than Dead posted:Spirituality isn't so much about signing up for dogmatic Christian God but acknowledging the lack of control you actually can exercise in your life. Drunks in particular will sit and rage about the control they perceive they have when you really have even less than you'd think. 12-step approaches are fine for some people, and not fine for others. Being proselytic about it isn't really helping anyone.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:12-step approaches are fine for some people, and not fine for others. Being proselytic about it isn't really helping anyone. Isn't proselytizing the whole point of teaching people about God? So you can get all your friends on board and bring them to your church to toss in their 10% tithes? Of course you kick some of that money back to the elders (who brought in their friends) in the form of church trips to the Bahamas or what not. It's like a pointy triangle shaped system.
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Ice Blue Mink posted:Oh Penny, you can't PM without plat. It's a chicken and egg problem for sure. Lol right, well poo poo. I want to get Nonviolent J plat for just making this thread and allowing this discussion. As to how I'm doing, I'm all over the place. I don't know what's happening right now.
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Yes but are you sober still? That's the most important part.
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You having a place to talk this all out is good enough for me man! If you really want to get people something that already have plat or whatevs you could get them a nice fresh avatar But really you should save your money and get a kickass new shirt or a steam or gog game for yourself to have a fun time with!!
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I guess I don't subscribe to a specific religion or anything so I have a difficult time understanding the precise issue and I've always been a pretty staunch atheist. It's cool and fine if people don't like AA or 12 step programs, but focusing on dogma is missing the point to me. Smart recovery tells you you have power and aren't helpless, and fundamentally so does AA (you decided to not drink today didn't you? You decided to start work on the Change you need) aside from the what is supposed to be humbling confession where you "admit your life ain't going how you always wanted it to go" in step 1. Considering the lengths I went to maintain my denial, it was necessary for me to claim the title of alcoholic. I would encourage exploring or seeking out agnostic or atheist recovery groups if that's your inclination and it's something that'll help. Really, if it helps, that's what matters. Doing it alone, I know it didn't work for me. The most frightening thing was always thinking I had a "time limit" that I was waiting to pass, and once things fell into place I'd automatically start drinking. Oh boy was it a treat when that time came and went and I was hitting it harder than before, feeling even more out of control than at any point before then. Connecting with you with supportive people who've been through the same wringer as you is really the focus anyway. Otherwise you have people saying "75 drinks a week!! That's nothing. Call me when you've learned how to really drink" Of course some people are going to lean into dogma but it's more of a pity IMO cause it's so boring. You'll also run into people who don't think you're "clean" unless you're not on any anti depressants either. Which is destructive as hell. To me, any spirituality is firmly planted inside yourself. "the reality deep down within you" and harnessing it doesn't rob you of anything. That well springs forth from within. Like nomad was saying earlier in the thread, what would your heart have you do? Ultimately I just want people to be happy with their lives and their choices. For themselves.
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