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Risky Bisquick posted:http://www.rbc.com/economics/economic-reports/pdf/provincial-forecasts/prov_fiscal.pdf Alberta's not looks so great either wow. Other than net debt, Ontario seems quite stable. Even debt to gdp is up from 32%-38% over 10 years, but other provinces seem to be accruing debt like crazy in comparison.
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eXXon posted:Well since someone asked who cares about this question, the answer is that the Star is on the case: Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Risky Bisquick posted:http://www.rbc.com/economics/economic-reports/pdf/provincial-forecasts/prov_fiscal.pdf check out those BC surpluses, thanks Christy!
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Alberta's not looks so great either wow. Isnt Notley diverting a bunch of resources into non-oil related areas of their economy, and since theyre so new they wouldnt show up quite yet as they arent established? Ontario probably got boosts from selling off anything still crown corp, so I wouldnt exactly call it stable. 
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Furnaceface posted:Isnt Notley diverting a bunch of resources into non-oil related areas of their economy, and since theyre so new they wouldnt show up quite yet as they arent established? Optics, Furnaceface, Optics!
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Furnaceface posted:Isnt Notley diverting a bunch of resources into non-oil related areas of their economy, and since theyre so new they wouldnt show up quite yet as they arent established? We sold shared of Hydro One for pennies. Our GDP is 600B, and we're talking about a windfall of what, 10B? Raise taxes instead.
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Furnaceface posted:Isnt Notley diverting a bunch of resources into non-oil related areas of their economy, and since theyre so new they wouldnt show up quite yet as they arent established? I'm just saying, if you drew up some trend lines based on those charts Ontario's would look better than I expected in comparison.
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Duck Rodgers posted:Its that last point there that really bothers me. People hated Filmon for hallway medicine, privatizing MTS, Filmon Friday's etc. Yet Pallister gets elected with basically the same platform? For your first question I feel like the hate for Selinger combined with the fact he wasn't doing anything immediate about ~the deficit~ did the NDP in. CFS in Manitoba is an absolute mess, healthcare is okay, but wait times are among the worst in the country that combined with the PST increase, you expect better results if you are deficit spending to keep everything afloat. If Oswald had won the leadership in 2015 I think we would have at least an NDP minority, a fresh face along with some promises to right the ship would have gone a long way for increasing support for the party. The only reason I can draw this conclusion is Pallister is still really really unpopular despite winning the election and doing all the things he said he would. People were just tired of Selinger.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Optics, Furnaceface, Optics! I know.  PK loving SUBBAN posted:I'm just saying, if you drew up some trend lines based on those charts Ontario's would look better than I expected in comparison. Oh then yeah, I can see that. Risky Bisquick posted:We sold shared of Hydro One for pennies. Our GDP is 600B, and we're talking about a windfall of what, 10B? Raise taxes instead. *another finger on the monkeys paw curls* Taxes increased on all households making less than 110k.
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Vintersorg posted:If he approves that there should be riots in the streets. "Every crown corporation should be privatized because expensive government employees are why services cost so much, with a free market strategy costs would go down because businesses will lower salaries and pass those savings onto the consumer" - Every idiot I've even talked to about MTS privatization
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Selinger should of passed a bill requiring a referendum on selling off Crown Corporations while he still had the chance.
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A Typical Goon posted:"Every crown corporation should be privatized because expensive government employees are why services cost so much, with a free market strategy costs would go down because businesses will lower salaries and pass those savings onto the consumer" - Every idiot I've even talked to about MTS privatization I hate it when people are all *!~Economics 101~!*, but "the price is whatever the market will bear is literally one of the first things taught about supply and demand, and these idiots never seem to remember that. It's infuriating.
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CLAM DOWN posted:check out those BC surpluses, thanks Christy! After you do, checkout the BC Hydro debt accumulated over the last 8-9 years.
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mojo1701a posted:I hate it when people are all *!~Economics 101~!*, but "the price is whatever the market will bear is literally one of the first things taught about supply and demand, and these idiots never seem to remember that. It's infuriating. Trickle down economics is the stupidest theory, and I can't believe how many proponents it still has after the massive accumulation of wealth in the hands of the rich that we've seen over the past 40 years. Socialism fails because "people are lazy" but trickle economics works because "rich people aren't greedy" Ya ok then 
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imagine how much better that would look if we didn't have progressive dingbats supporting the green party
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BC Greens are in favour of Uber and could conceivably pick up 1-3 seats on Vancouver Island which, if those polls are correct (lol) would turn an NDP majority to a minority. So uh yeah it could change things. Uber and the BC Greens are both bad in case it seemed like I was in favour of either of those things.
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THC posted:imagine how much better that would look if we didn't have progressive dingbats supporting the green party Imagine if BC had implemented proportional rep that time. Or the other time.
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Oh right the election, that explains why all my partisan NDP friends are non-stop trash talking the greens on social media now. Like no one loves to trash talk the greens in this thread more than me, but their poo poo is making me cringe. There's so much to attack the greens on but they're reaching and it makes them look desperate.
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Baronjutter posted:Oh right the election, that explains why all my partisan NDP friends are non-stop trash talking the greens on social media now. Like no one loves to trash talk the greens in this thread more than me, but their poo poo is making me cringe. There's so much to attack the greens on but they're reaching and it makes them look desperate. Now that the event centre referendum is over in Nanaimo, the local political groups now seem to be filling with a ton of pro-NDP, mostly anti-Liberal posts. It just feels excessive given Nanaimo seems to unlikely to swing Liberal.
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Same except most of my friends are partisan Greens.
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Cerepol posted:What did the PCs do to BC that is some super low support The BC Liberal Party is our conservative party in BC.
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Cerepol posted:What did the PCs do to BC that is some super low support The BCLiberals are the conservatives here. The federal Conservative party endorses them over the provincial Conservative party.
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Cerepol posted:What did the PCs do to BC that is some super low support The BC Liberal party is in no way related to the federal Liberals. When Vander Zalm tanked the Socreds in the early 90's, they all defected and took over the Liberal party from Gordon Wilson and remade it in their own image. On how Vander Zalm tanked the party see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Vander_Zalm#Provincial_Premier quote:Vander Zalm became embroiled in a conflict of interest controversy over the sale of his Fantasy Gardens flower garden and theme park. The conflict of interest arose because the Taiwanese buyer, Tan Yu, was provided VIP treatment and lunch with the Lieutenant-Governor prior to the sale. Vander Zalm claimed that control over the theme park was his wife's responsibility. Adding fuel to the fire, Faye Leung, a colourful Chinese-Canadian entrepreneur and the woman who brokered the deal, thought that Vander Zalm was a "bad man" since the day she first met him and secretly recorded conversations she had with him, and was happily willing to speak to the media and provide copies of her audio tapes. Xaranthius fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Oh I'm sorry if we seem desperate about the possibility of Four More Years of Today's BC Liberals loving up our province I guess blasé disinterest is a more winning posture, worked super well for us in 2013
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THC posted:Oh I'm sorry if we seem desperate about the possibility of Four More Years of Today's BC Liberals loving up our province To me, it feels like a waste of energy here. I feel like it would be better spent trying to sway people in more Liberal ridings.
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BC Greens constantly attack the NDP, they almost never criticize the Liberals, and they even actively help the Libs and take their side a lot of the time. Anyone who's still a BC Lib supporter is unlikely to swing to us but there's a chance we could win over some prog Green supporters by highlighting exactly how much you're stabbing yourself in the dick if you're a prog who votes for them I mean I get what you're trying to say here but this is serious poo poo man and the Greens are not our friends. Oh and many BC Liberals are federal Liberals, including Premier Clark Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Xaranthius posted:The BC Liberal party is in no way related to the federal Liberals. https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/294131041994682369
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I feel like every time you read a post in this thread, a CanPol poster should whisper into your ear, "Libs gonna Lib."
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THC posted:Oh and many BC Liberals are federal Liberals, including Premier Clark Yes, but the party itself is not affiliated. Also, in case anyone is interested Michael Chong is doing an AMA right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/60lj6k/im_michael_chong_and_im_running_to_be_the_next/ Feel free to upvote my question :P
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Xaranthius posted:Yes, but the party itself is not affiliated. I can't find your question in the sea of Reddit firearms circlejerking
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DariusLikewise posted:I can't find your question in the sea of Reddit firearms circlejerking You can sort by "new" or here's a direct link: https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/60lj6k/im_michael_chong_and_im_running_to_be_the_next/df8dlcj/
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Xaranthius posted:Yes, but the party itself is not affiliated. Why are there so many pieces of poo poo jerking off over guns in that thread
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The BC liberals are just the federal liberals but they don't bother dressing up their right wing policies in progressive language. They're swimming in enough developer money to not give a poo poo what the average idiot thinks, and the BCNdp are so useless they don't actually present much of a major threat to them.
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Argas posted:I feel like every time you read a post in this thread, a CanPol poster should whisper into your ear, "Libs gonna Lib." It is recorded that in antiquity when a mighty goon had registered their ten thousandth poo poo-post in CanPol that they would have laurels placed on their head and would lead a mighty parade through the streets, And standing behind them at their moment of glory would be a troll repeatedly whispering "Memento Liberals semper mendacium"
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I don't see how the Alberta NDP will succeed in the next election when an apparently large number of people somehow believe that the price of oil on the international markets would go up if Alberta's tax rates went down.
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Voters are extremely stupid and will vote for the incumbents if things are good and vote for anyone else if they think things could be better. It doesn't matter if things are good despite the party in power, or that things are bad due to the world economy or the moon falling into the earth. "loving NDP the moon's never crashed into the earth when the alberta PC's ran the show!"
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