Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

Beet Wagon posted:

They'll send me a thing with all this information:

Shark's personal NAME
Individual PIT Identification number
Sex & measurements of your shark
Birth month
Capture information

So yeah they basically doxx it for us. But if you want I could make it a facebook page for you guys to stalk or a twitter for Samizdata to go HAM on.

e: wooo! we're only 58 votes behind first!

Thats cool and all, but what I think we all want to know is will that allow you to kill it with that fishmurderspeargun you have?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

I did my part and voted.

VealCutlet
Dec 21, 2015

I am a marketing god, shave that shit
https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/844393961678655488

I am... a star citizen... employee

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

Beet Wagon posted:

Honestly I'm sorta surprised Loukanikos is pulling the votes that he is. I mean he was a rad as gently caress dog don't get me wrong, but seems kinda niche for SA to rally behind. I think CSPAM is doing a better job of spamming the "go vote, idiots" message but honestly I want to poo poo the thread up with "guys look at my dog" as little as possible cause I know there's some folks here who don't appreciate it.

You are talking about a dog that was a legend. Who faced of against rows of armored police. And ate tear gas for lunch. He was a good dog and deserves votes.

Gradis
Feb 27, 2016

GAPE APE

Beet Wagon posted:

They'll send me a thing with all this information:

Shark's personal NAME
Individual PIT Identification number
Sex & measurements of your shark
Birth month
Capture information

So yeah they basically doxx it for us. But if you want I could make it a facebook page for you guys to stalk or a twitter for Samizdata to go HAM on.

e: wooo! we're only 58 votes behind first!

and a pic of moma hunting it

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

alf_pogs posted:

of course the politically engaged dog is the only one beating you. i just want a good honest dog, not some riot-protest anarchist

kayak or rusty for lyf

Agreed. I voted for Kayak even though my Lucky Dog lost, I am of the opinion that dog vote is on the same level as the CIG funding tracker.

Oh, and gently caress that political dog. It doesn't belong to anyone on SA.

And yeah, I am goddamned salty about that poo poo.

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

I think we should name it Space Catte.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Sharks are cool.

I hope Discovery Channel does CIG week.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Lladre posted:

You are talking about a dog that was a legend. Who faced of against rows of armored police. And ate tear gas for lunch. He was a good dog and deserves votes.

Oh yeah I mean no argument here Loukanikos was rad as gently caress. I just kind of figured the inflatable pug from BYOB would run away with the votes lmao

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Beet Wagon posted:

:siren::siren:Another annoying alert about the dog competition:siren::siren:

Kayak is now 70 points behind first. I've toxxed to 'adopt' a tagged lemon shark with my donation to the Bimini Biological Field Station if he wins and that means the thread gets to name it something stupid like Derek Smart Was Right or Shark Citizen or even something macabre like naming it Star Citizen The Shark and seeing which one dies first.

Do the needful, commandos

Also I promise I'll stop spamming this poo poo soon.

I voted the first time. For Kayak, of course. Not only due to his charm, good looks, and chicken phobia, but also he is a real dog that is still alive.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Sabreseven posted:

That cockpit is bland as bland can be.

Also, is it just me seeing it or has the general quality of the textures in SC gone downhill lately? They look so flat and grey, and dull, very very dull.

Cockpit good! you just stupid stalty asshatt

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Did I say good? I meant GREAT!



look at all that visibility on your fighter when you're looking at the UI

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

trucutru posted:

Did I say good? I meant GREAT!



look at all that visibility on your fighter when you're looking at the UI

I had more visibility going down on a fat chick compared to that screenshot.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
:yikes:

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

TrustmeImLegit posted:

They unironically called him a Chris Roberts Historian in official communcations so I believe it.

So he's writing the Hadith and Sunnah for Chris Roberts?

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

spacetoaster posted:

So he's writing the Hadith and Sunnah for Chris Roberts?

Transcribing - obviously Christ Roberts is dictating the gospel directly to him

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

Colostomy Bag posted:

Sharks are cool.

I hope Discovery Channel does CIG week.

I may be able to ask them tomorrow at lunch.

http://imgur.com/a/XUw70

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

DapperDon posted:

I may be able to ask them tomorrow at lunch.

http://imgur.com/a/XUw70

Can we quit doxxing goons?!!>?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





DapperDon posted:

Thats cool and all, but what I think we all want to know is will that allow you to kill it with that fishmurderspeargun you have?

Nah man I don't kill sharks I pet them. Goin down to the Keys soon to shoot some fat fuckin hogfish though!

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

Did you guys know there is an extended Freelancer intro sequence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exR36BzJCdo

Did you know that is basically spoils everything that is otherwise decently paced and also ALIENS DESTROY THE SOLAR SYSTEM WOAAAAH.

It screams Chris Roberts-

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Michaellaneous posted:

Did you guys know there is an extended Freelancer intro sequence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exR36BzJCdo

Did you know that is basically spoils everything that is otherwise decently paced and also ALIENS DESTROY THE SOLAR SYSTEM WOAAAAH.

It screams Chris Roberts-

This makes me so angry that whoever decided to cut the trailer at the colony ships going into FTL originally for the actual intro to the game is a loving genius.

VealCutlet
Dec 21, 2015

I am a marketing god, shave that shit
https://i.imgur.com/Zdl1ugC.gifv

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

Michaellaneous posted:

Did you guys know there is an extended Freelancer intro sequence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exR36BzJCdo

Did you know that is basically spoils everything that is otherwise decently paced and also ALIENS DESTROY THE SOLAR SYSTEM WOAAAAH.

It screams Chris Roberts-

"We could use our powerful technology to pacify or enslave or eliminate these humans and harvest an entire star system's worth of resources. Nah, let's just blow it all up to be dicks. That'll show those commies."

My new porn name is Atticus Rockford.

Space Crabs posted:

This makes me so angry that whoever decided to cut the trailer at the colony ships going into FTL originally for the actual intro to the game is a loving genius.

So genius that I'd like to think someone knew Crobberts was being a massive idiot and purposely made the video so the dumbassedry could be excised later.

ComfyPants fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 23, 2017

defaultluser
Jan 13, 2007

The person can drink sake for the following five reasons. First of all, for the national holiday. Moreover, it fills with the nectar. Finally, for reasons. Next, to heal the dryness of the place. After that, to refuse the future
Fun Shoe

Space Crabs posted:

This makes me so angry that whoever decided to cut the trailer at the colony ships going into FTL originally for the actual intro to the game is a loving genius.

Agreed if true! That blows the entire plot.

But may I present a counterpoint? Intro Video was likely cut to save CD space. Recall, this massive game shipped on a SINGLE CD, complete with a shitton of mp3 audio.

I believe the intro video was pre-rendered, while the rest of the scenes were real-time. If that's correct, the video woud be the first thing to get cut.

defaultluser fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Mar 23, 2017

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
So, is freelancer a good game? When I was a kid a friend had wing commander 2 and I had X-Wing so I obviously was like, lol, what a piece of poo poo. From then on I have never played a CHRIS ROBERTS game, not that I am a fan of space games.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard




Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

trucutru posted:

So, is freelancer a good game? When I was a kid a friend had wing commander 2 and I had X-Wing so I obviously was like, lol, what a piece of poo poo. From then on I have never played a CHRIS ROBERTS game, not that I am a fan of space games.

Yeah Freelancer is pretty good, it's more of a light action-RPG than a space sim, though.

I played Wing Commander 2 before I had X-Wing or TIE Fighter so I enjoyed it at the time and still play it now and then. Of course, it's the one game in the series that Roberts had the least involvement with.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


brendan 2097 read a thing once so prepare to hear about it forever

Sum Mors
Feb 21, 2008

Beet Wagon posted:

Oh yeah I mean no argument here Loukanikos was rad as gently caress. I just kind of figured the inflatable pug from BYOB would run away with the votes lmao

Dog was just doing dog things. What kind of owner thinks is cool and good to have their dog get kicked by police and breathe tear gas? Why is this a heroes story?

That said, I voted for Legal.

defaultluser
Jan 13, 2007

The person can drink sake for the following five reasons. First of all, for the national holiday. Moreover, it fills with the nectar. Finally, for reasons. Next, to heal the dryness of the place. After that, to refuse the future
Fun Shoe
Yeah, Freelancer is definitely a fun game to play if you like the FPS-style controls.

The guns are all mounted on turrets, and you control them linked, virtually targeting your foe while you fly around.

The game runs fine on Windows 10, just use the No-cd executable once it's done installing. Microsoft broke the CD protection for all these old games several years ago with a Windows update,so the game will fail to launch when it can't validate the CD.

defaultluser fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Mar 23, 2017

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Beet Wagon posted:

Nah man I don't kill sharks I pet them. Goin down to the Keys soon to shoot some fat fuckin hogfish though!

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

After the 2.6.2 patch log I am not worried anymore and neither should you.

e: tax

https://youtu.be/8rSH8-pbHZ0

MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Mar 23, 2017

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

The Titanic posted:

And that's precisely it. Community and family, all giving each other hand jobs over their ship purchases. If you have what seems like a completionist package sold every day... surely you have the associated "guess what I just blew my kids college fund on guise!!!" posts to go along with it.

I just think that if you have one without the other, in really high numbers (like it should be the exception instead of the norm when you burn $15k on a video game to not want validation that you are not an idiot), then maaaaaaaayyyyybe something somewhere is not entirely honest.

It's probably nothing though. These Star Citizen guys don't put up a fight about their game or anything. They're all super cool and chill and don't care if people don't believe in it.

You kidding me? You only spend $15K, no one will ever talk to you again. That's weak sauce!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Beet Wagon posted:

They'll send me a thing with all this information:

Shark's personal NAME
Individual PIT Identification number
Sex & measurements of your shark
Birth month
Capture information

So yeah they basically doxx it for us. But if you want I could make it a facebook page for you guys to stalk or a twitter for Samizdata to go HAM on.

e: wooo! we're only 58 votes behind first!

Can I revoke my vote?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Sure is something to see this still going.

Roberts sure can play a long con.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

trucutru posted:

So, is freelancer a good game? When I was a kid a friend had wing commander 2 and I had X-Wing so I obviously was like, lol, what a piece of poo poo. From then on I have never played a CHRIS ROBERTS game, not that I am a fan of space games.

Let me tell you, I played the everloving poo poo out of some StarLancer and FreeLancer.

Freelancer is good but when you spend enough time watching this Star Citizen clusterfuck you start to understand how some things felt "off" about the game.

You have a bunch of different types of shields and weapons and loot but none of it really matters and there are quests and missions but they seem kinda incidental I guess is the best way to put it. The universe is actually interesting but you don't really get to interact with it very much at all. Something feels like it's missing.

But boy do you have to navigate through multiple step communication requests to dock somewhere, and there are elaborate landing and taking off animations. Purchasing modules for your ship sends you to a ship showroom where all the modules are laid out on tables and your current ship is wheeled in. Every ship, planet and station has a Bar you go get drinks in and there are dozens of places to dock, see ship showrooms, and trade the cargo like minerals you don't need for anything else other than selling and you don't even need the money either.

All of the dozens of planets, stations and capital ships are just bars you dock at. He was focused on weird details and pointless minutiae of making ship showrooms, bartenders, table cleaners, news networks, drinking animations that he forgot to actually make these places places. They exist as collections of the details he thought was important and sacrificed everything else to make.

It totally makes sense why they had to kick him off the project and FreeLancer feels like it's the last 2/3rds of a game because Chris Roberts couldn't or wouldn't work on the basic 1/3rd first.

You start to get a great idea of how Chris Roberts works. Star Lancer was a good game and his biggest successes were the similar Wing Commander games where the primary focus is the scripted missions that you can run over with a microscope to fine tune. Some scripted AI and you are done, the player does most of the work. But when he tries to spread out into living universes he is a giant autist that doesn't understand human interaction and fails completely by breaking out an electron microscope on poo poo like proper docking procedures or what the intergalactic news cycle should be.

All of which would be fine if he eventually got around to the other things, but as he has admitted himself and has been proven by his removal from other projects, he will not get to the other things. He will run right into the ground with his terrible ideas if people let him, and nobody can stop him now.

So Star Citizen, of course, should be well worth the $75,000 some people are purchasing it for.

I'm sure the 3+ years of motion capture work for 300+ speaking roles making tens of hours of finished footage with orchestral score and hollywood actors totally didn't take away from the basics of the game in time and budget. You see I know all of these basics are done because

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

XK posted:

When you make an open world sandbox game, the thing that makes it feel good is when the player always has the choice between playing the game story, or playing the world. I can't count how many locations I've come across in GTA games where I wondered why that area was there. No story line poo poo ever happened there, and there was nothing important, but I could punch a dude, start a fight, have cops show up, steal a bike, ride into the ocean, grab a yacht, 30 minutes later I'm hunting in the woods or dive bombing a 747 at a military base.

It's not an easy thing to pull off, though. You have to explicitly make it part of the design process. GTA4 was probably the worst of the GTA series at it. There were too many completely dead areas where it was completely obvious they never came up with anything to throw into them. The highways on the north end of the map, and all the northwest neighborhoods, and the east, and pretty much all over. The living locations were scattershot, and most of them involved high speed driving to have fun. I think that's the reason why GTA4 often is called the weakest entry in the series. There just weren't enough opportunities to play the world.

I remember spending hours in the second to top floor of a parking garage in GTA3, sniping cops with a rocket launcher, then trying to escape. I think I spent more time doing that than playing the storyline.

Still no Linkedin mail. Irritated.

Reminded me of this I ran into lately: http://keithburgun.net/videogames-are-broken-toys/ .

Discusses some of your feelings, I think.

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Colostomy Bag posted:

Not often a post on the official forums makes me really lol but this one got me.



He has been known for decades, so he is no conman.
Except for Gizmondo where everyone but him went to jail. And then there was the 'creative accounting' thing where everyone but him was jailed. Oh, and the whole Star Citizen thing. Anyway, as I was saying, definitely not a conman; remember Freelancer?

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Chris Roberts personal snuff film collection about to be stumbled upon.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Space Crabs posted:

Let me tell you, I played the everloving poo poo out of some StarLancer and FreeLancer.

Freelancer is good but when you spend enough time watching this Star Citizen clusterfuck you start to understand how some things felt "off" about the game.

You have a bunch of different types of shields and weapons and loot but none of it really matters and there are quests and missions but they seem kinda incidental I guess is the best way to put it. The universe is actually interesting but you don't really get to interact with it very much at all. Something feels like it's missing.

But boy do you have to navigate through multiple step communication requests to dock somewhere, and there are elaborate landing and taking off animations. Purchasing modules for your ship sends you to a ship showroom where all the modules are laid out on tables and your current ship is wheeled in. Every ship, planet and station has a Bar you go get drinks in and there are dozens of places to dock, see ship showrooms, and trade the cargo like minerals you don't need for anything else other than selling and you don't even need the money either.

All of the dozens of planets, stations and capital ships are just bars you dock at. He was focused on weird details and pointless minutiae of making ship showrooms, bartenders, table cleaners, news networks, drinking animations that he forgot to actually make these places places. They exist as collections of the details he thought was important and sacrificed everything else to make.

It totally makes sense why they had to kick him off the project and FreeLancer feels like it's the last 2/3rds of a game because Chris Roberts couldn't or wouldn't work on the basic 1/3rd first.

You start to get a great idea of how Chris Roberts works. Star Lancer was a good game and his biggest successes were the similar Wing Commander games where the primary focus is the scripted missions that you can run over with a microscope to fine tune. Some scripted AI and you are done, the player does most of the work. But when he tries to spread out into living universes he is a giant autist that doesn't understand human interaction and fails completely by breaking out an electron microscope on poo poo like proper docking procedures or what the intergalactic news cycle should be.

All of which would be fine if he eventually got around to the other things, but as he has admitted himself and has been proven by his removal from other projects, he will not get to the other things. He will run right into the ground with his terrible ideas if people let him, and nobody can stop him now.

So Star Citizen, of course, should be well worth the $75,000 some people are purchasing it for.

I'm sure the 3+ years of motion capture work for 300+ speaking roles making tens of hours of finished footage with orchestral score and hollywood actors totally didn't take away from the basics of the game in time and budget. You see I know all of these basics are done because

Thanks, that indeed sounds like the thumb-person that dreamed of SC.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5