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quote:Kevin Tancharoen needs to direct way more stuff. If you're ever watching an AoS and are like, goddamn the fight scenes in this were amazing, odds are it's one of his eps. My favorite would have to be Spacetime in the third season, where they use having seen the future as an excuse to make the fight choreography planning part of the plot of the episode. Works both in-story and as a nod to the work that goes into making those things that wind up being 30 seconds of frantic motion.
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zoux posted:Kevin Tancharoen needs to direct way more stuff. If you're ever watching an AoS and are like, goddamn the fight scenes in this were amazing, odds are it's one of his eps. Didn't he direct the Arrow episode where they start in a hallway, roll into an elevator (keep fighting) and then spill out several floors later and continue to fight?
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Mar 23, 2017 06:45
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He definitely directed tonight's episode of Arrow, and may be it was placebo due to having read this thread before watching, but it seemed to have vastly superior action... ...even if you could pretty easily spot DOLPH's stunt double. Edit: I looked it up and the infamous Arrow hallway fight was apparently 1x21 "The Undertaking" directed by Michael Schultz who has directed a lot of different and interesting poo poo, but I'm gonna say it still makes sense because he directed Barry Gordy's The Last Dragon. Lol. Longbaugh01 fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 07:15
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Longbaugh01 posted:...even if you could pretty easily spot DOLPH's stunt double. This has been one of the only drawbacks of Arrow's fight scenes over the years. Pretty much anyone without a hood is instantly recognizable as a stunt double. But most of the time the fights are good enough that I don't care.
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Mar 23, 2017 08:01
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ToastyPotato posted:Imagine a world where there are actors that already have martial arts training. Imagine a world where martial arts scenes have been filmed that don't require masks to hide stunt doubles. Imagine. This is what drives me nuts about this production. It's not like this is a new problem. Movies in the late 90s had gotten pretty loving good at hiding that their leads can't do karate. Did we forget since then?
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Mar 23, 2017 08:19
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X-O posted:But most of the time the fights are good enough that I don't care. At least once they learned not to have two people in dark hooded outfits fight with minimal movement in an unlit warehouse at night.
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Mar 23, 2017 08:46
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Rhyno posted:Didn't he direct the Arrow episode where they start in a hallway, roll into an elevator (keep fighting) and then spill out several floors later and continue to fight? That one was by James Bamford, the stunt coordinator/fight choreographer for Arrow.
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Mar 23, 2017 13:41
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zoux posted:Yeah. Blessing of Many Fractures has the only real memorable fight (Drunken Master), so put that in the win column for him.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:07
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One of those voodoo analytics outfits is saying Iron Fist is the second "biggest hit" out of the Marvel Netflix shows.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:21
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Longbaugh01 posted:He definitely directed tonight's episode of Arrow, and may be it was placebo due to having read this thread before watching, but it seemed to have vastly superior action... Oliver Vs Mr. Blank is a fight I've always been fond of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W5pupNQ32c
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Mar 23, 2017 15:33
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zoux posted:One of those voodoo analytics outfits is saying Iron Fist is the second "biggest hit" out of the Marvel Netflix shows. No such thing as bad publicity.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:45
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MacheteZombie posted:No such thing as bad publicity. Apparently they only take "positive" mentions. I have no commentary on their methodology and am pretty skeptical of these 3rd party analytic companies, and Netflix has as perfect data analytics as you can have with respect to viewer data so it doesn't really matter what these companies say, but in this case any controversy wouldn't apply to this methodology. But don't be terribly surprised if there's a second season.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:13
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Lurdiak posted:This is what drives me nuts about this production. It's not like this is a new problem. Movies in the late 90s had gotten pretty loving good at hiding that their leads can't do karate. Did we forget since then? I'm too lazy to dig around right now, but do the producers and directors for Iron Fist have martial arts movie/TV background? Even Walker Texas Ranger used a double for Chuck Norris's spin kicks and crap.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:39
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ToastyPotato posted:I'm too lazy to dig around right now, but do the producers and directors for Iron Fist have martial arts movie/TV background? Even Walker Texas Ranger used a double for Chuck Norris's spin kicks and crap. The show runner is the guy that did the last three seasons of Dexter...
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Mar 23, 2017 16:47
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zoux posted:One of those voodoo analytics outfits is saying Iron Fist is the second "biggest hit" out of the Marvel Netflix shows. I watched it all, but that's because I was doing my taxes. It's pretty bad. Finn Jones was not the right guy for the role. The final episode is hilarious, but I'm pretty sure that was unintentional. I do like the running joke about Danny being just incompetent.
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Mar 24, 2017 00:36
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RevKrule posted:Blessing of Many Fractures has the only real memorable fight (Drunken Master), so put that in the win column for him. Just finishing the last episode right now and yes, that was the highlight of the series for me too. When the dude stood up with his booze I thought "are they?... Nah, they wouldn't, they.... HOLY poo poo BALLS YES!!!!!!!"
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Mar 24, 2017 01:53
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StumblyWumbly posted:I watched it all, but that's because I was doing my taxes. Finished episode 6 and it was horrible. "It means I never lose" was a horrible line. Madame Gao was like the only redeeming part of the episode.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:14
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ToastyPotato posted:I'm too lazy to dig around right now, but do the producers and directors for Iron Fist have martial arts movie/TV background? Even Walker Texas Ranger used a double for Chuck Norris's spin kicks and crap. Was that because of insurance or something? I'm just looking it up and when that series ended, Norris would have been <googles> 60? Huh. When you've been doing martial arts fairly consistently for about 40 years or whatever length of time he'd been at it and decades of kung fu flicks and action movies on top of that, I'd have assumed you'd be staying vital for quite some time. Still, maybe you'd just wear out and slow down by the time you reach that age if that's your schedule. I don't know.  Can you imagine if they'd adapted Iron Fist in, like, the eighties and Chuck Norris had played Danny Rand? I can imagine him trying to edit the script. "Listen, I can really relate to Danny's story; I went to Asia and learned martial arts too. But I want to change this bit about him getting his powers from a dragon; don't you think it would be a lot smarter and a lot more American if the real power of Iron Fist came from accepting Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Saviour? Huh? Huh?"
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Mar 24, 2017 02:54
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Wheat Loaf posted:Was that because of insurance or something? I'm just looking it up and when that series ended, Norris would have been <googles> 60? Huh. When you've been doing martial arts fairly consistently for about 40 years or whatever length of time he'd been at it and decades of kung fu flicks and action movies on top of that, I'd have assumed you'd be staying vital for quite some time. Still, maybe you'd just wear out and slow down by the time you reach that age if that's your schedule. I don't know. He aged ungracefully I guess and just couldn't throw them pretty kicks anymore (or maybe he had some injury that slowed him down.)
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Mar 24, 2017 03:21
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Norris was never that good at punch-kicking in a visually interesting way. It's easy to look good when you're opposite Bruce Lee, that dude could carry a sack of potatoes to a 5-star match.
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You guys one episode of Legion is better than all the good parts of Iron Fist put together. It is the show I watch and then watch again.
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Mar 24, 2017 04:10
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StumblyWumbly posted:You guys one episode of Legion is better than all the good parts of Iron Fist put together. It is the show I watch and then watch again. How is this show not tearing up the Internet? It is easily the best comic book show on TV right now.
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Mar 24, 2017 04:26
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notthegoatseguy posted:How is this show not tearing up the Internet? It is easily the best comic book show on TV right now. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA You're clearly not watching Legends of Tomorrow where they just confirmed Jesus Christ to be a real person in CWverse continuity.
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Mar 24, 2017 04:30
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Rhyno posted:Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Well Constantine is part of the CWverse so technically his intro would have been a round about way of confirming the Judeo-Christian faiths right?
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Mar 24, 2017 04:38
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Rhyno posted:Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa I bring Aubrey Plaza to the fight and you bring Jesus? I'm feeling good (bit of a spoiler)
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Mar 24, 2017 04:48
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ToastyPotato posted:Well Constantine is part of the CWverse so technically his intro would have been a round about way of confirming the Judeo-Christian faiths right? Faith has existed in thousands of tv shows. CW confirmed that Jesus Christ existed and was a real person in their comic book super hero teevee universe.
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Mar 24, 2017 06:09
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Jesus is real I met him on the bus once man Good weed
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Mar 24, 2017 06:12
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He was a real person, Jesus exists in any show that doesn't explicitly say he doesn't.
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Mar 24, 2017 06:14
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Aphrodite posted:He was a real person, Jesus exists in any show that doesn't explicitly say he doesn't. Uh huh. This would be the Jesus who was crucified and has magical divine blood.
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Mar 24, 2017 06:30
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DC has The Spectre, It's all real.
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Mar 24, 2017 06:32
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Rhyno posted:Faith has existed in thousands of tv shows. CW confirmed that Jesus Christ existed and was a real person in their comic book super hero teevee universe. I meant confirmed them as real things that actually happened. Because Constantine explicitly deals with heaven and hell, etc. Though I guess the show never really ever touched on anything specifically Christ related, to be fair. Not that I can remember. Just vague angels and demon stuff, with generic church imagery/lingo. I forgot Spectre was a thing they were doing on Constantine too! I miss the show to be honest. 
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Mar 24, 2017 06:37
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Aphrodite posted:DC has The Spectre, It's all real. We're talking about television, not comics where God and Jesus show up all the time.
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Rhyno posted:Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Boring, wake me up when a tv show does the requisite "God is probably real after all and science can't explain some things." thing but from a Muslim perspective.
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Mar 24, 2017 09:31
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Rhyno posted:You're clearly not watching Legends of Tomorrow where they just confirmed Jesus Christ to be a real person in CWverse continuity. They've spent the entire season trying to find the Spear of Destiny, of course biblical Jesus is real in the CWverse.
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Aphrodite posted:He was a real person, Jesus exists in any show that doesn't explicitly say he doesn't. Jesus is never explicitly mentioned in the MCU (Christianity is, so we assume he exists), but according to Marvel Ancient Norse is the one objectively true religion and mankind was shaped by alien forces and not the hand of God. The Marvel Universe is pretty anti-Christian catechism. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 15:32
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Is Daredevil the most explicitly Christian Marvel hero?
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Mar 24, 2017 15:33
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zoux posted:Is Daredevil the most explicitly Christian Marvel hero? Yeah. It seems kind of dumb to go to Mass and pray to god when Thor lives one zip-code over and Steve Rogers has literally risen from the dead.
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Mar 24, 2017 15:38
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That's what faith is my friend. I do like Cap's answer to it in the first Avengers.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Jesus is never explicitly mentioned in the MCU (Christianity is, so we assume he exists), but according to Marvel Ancient Norse is the one objectively true religion and mankind was shaped by alien forces and not the hand of God. Well, it's true in that the figures exist, but many of their deeds are just made up stories. You think Loki ever heard the one about how he gave birth to Odin's horse?
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Meh, Xena met Jesus and Santa Claus in the same episode 20 years ago.
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