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Squizzle posted:well Look at this nihilistic surface level posting
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Al-Saqr posted:Why is this considered a big victory? What's preventing the GOP from trying again a month or two down the road? Trump is supposed to be the pack leader / father figure, and his authority was directly challenged by Paul Ryan and the freedom caucus. It might not seem like a big deal to a functional adult, but all of Trump's power is built on this pack mentality. He looks weak and vulnerable and he isn't going to easily reestablish control over the party. Having this done so publicly is icing on the cake because the broke-brain voters who supported him are also operating on level.
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Squizzle posted:the republicans and trump have a number of things they want to do, and staying on this losing issue would just grind their agenda nearly to a halt at the same time though they don't really seem to grasp how important it was
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Mr. Jive posted:I'm the voice actor on the shortlist for when Trump is cleared of all charges i auditioned for the nuclear first-strike on iran congratulations ad, but never got a call back
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i think this should count as a big deal tbh. loving insanity
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If anything the victory is for people that have been screaming at their poo poo house reps for weeks, that has to feel incredible for these people since this poo poo seemed inevitable. Doesn't matter that they hosed up essentially every single part of this, the people made a difference
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Salt Fish posted:Trump is supposed to be the pack leader / father figure, and his authority was directly challenged by Paul Ryan and the freedom caucus. It might not seem like a big deal to a functional adult, but all of Trump's power is built on this pack mentality. He looks weak and vulnerable and he isn't going to easily reestablish control over the party. Having this done so publicly is icing on the cake because the broke-brain voters who supported him are also operating on level. Nothingmatters news flash: Trump was obstructed by Democrats and traitorous RINOs, pledge now to drain the swamp!
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slouch posted:i think this should count as a big deal tbh. loving insanity there really isn't a good analogue in the modern era for the level of failure this is. Clintoncare didn't finally putter out until 94 and he got several bills before then.
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Inspector Hound posted:Look at this nihilistic surface level posting 
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Mr. Jive posted:Nothingmatters news flash: Trump was obstructed by Democrats and traitorous RINOs, pledge now to drain the swamp! the narrative is very much "republicans failed" right now though
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Dick Milhous Rock! posted:it won't stop their base from blaming the democrats for the republicans being completely unable to pass anything though, because they're morons Anecdote: My uncle, who is the Republican base through and through (White male in 60s, owns a woodworking company in Kentucky,) thinks the Republicans are loving morons for not being able to repeal Obamacare.
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god drat the democrats better be mobilizing money for nationwide ads with Trumps quotes about letting obamacare explode and how that's not his fault
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lmao at Brian Williams interview with Robert Costa on msnbc. Trump is incredibly unprepared for the presidency. Freedom caucus is definitely suicidal for the Republican party.
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they say when Old Man Ryan came back to Janesville, he walked into a Flying J and never left. 30 years he's been there now. There's a man who lost it all in a single day.
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Fact: Obamacare has been in effect as a law longer than Mass Effect has topped best sellers lists the world over
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reminder that nite krew is the cancer that will kill the forums i hope you're all loving ashamed of yourselves
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also props to house dems for prodding the gop into rewriting the bill a thousand times until it was insane gibberish
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there is so much loving material to work with god drat 2018 campaign starts right the gently caress now
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Good soup! posted:Im dying good news!
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Schnorkles posted:reminder that nite krew is the cancer that will kill the forums night krew got me laid once
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Mr. Jive posted:Nothingmatters news flash: Trump was obstructed by Democrats and traitorous RINOs, pledge now to drain the swamp! No, I think this is the 1 exact thing that matters. The reason that Trump won the primaries was that he understood this better than anyone else on stage and knew that he could say *anything* as long as he did it in a dominating way.
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Solarin posted:If anything the victory is for people that have been screaming at their poo poo house reps for weeks, that has to feel incredible for these people since this poo poo seemed inevitable. Doesn't matter that they hosed up essentially every single part of this, the people made a difference Earth-616 newsflash: President Clinton uses quantum tunneling to endorse this post, VP Sanders deploys to Alpha Centauri on outreach mission to enlist conscientious objectors against racist Earth Prime health insurance plan.
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anime was right posted:good news! oh yeah grats on your continued survival btw
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texaholic posted:lmao at Brian Williams interview with Robert Costa on msnbc. Trump is incredibly unprepared for the presidency. Freedom caucus is definitely suicidal for the Republican party. "So what did you learn Mr. President?" " honestly that response is kind of chilling. He literally cannot learn from disaster, he is just going to try and get revenge on anybody he thinks hosed him over
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Anecdote: My uncle, who is the Republican base through and through (White male in 60s, owns a woodworking company in Kentucky,) thinks the Republicans are loving morons for not being able to repeal Obamacare. my friend from college who is possibly the most republican person i have ever know, and i say this having worked for the mn republican party back in the day, is ready to give up on them over this
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this was a major loss. The most important part about it however is that it undermines trump's ability to get other wins in the future and emboldens rogue elements in the party to obstruct him. Tax reform has a better chance of happening because the GOP is generally aligned on it, but its still gonna be real real hard
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Salt Fish posted:No, I think this is the 1 exact thing that matters. The reason that Trump won the primaries was that he understood this better than anyone else on stage and knew that he could say *anything* as long as he did it in a dominating way. i remember that one trump supporter interview when he was like "ILL SUPPORT ANYTHING HE DOES, I LOVE THE POWER" and yeah this just takes a dump on that
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Schnorkles posted:reminder that nite krew is the cancer that will kill the forums and we're all metast-estatic about it
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Solarin posted:"So what did you learn Mr. President?" I got a real cold fury vibe from that, it was curt and to the point wheras trump would usually talk about how he has the best learning
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Yinlock posted:the narrative is very much "republicans failed" right now though posted earlier, but yeah democrats aren't really being brought up in the conversation. it's all on ryan and house republicans failing even with trump himself directly naming schumer and pelosi to bring them in the conversation
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Schnorkles posted:reminder that nite krew is the cancer that will kill the forums oh totally but right now i'm also drinkin' sierra nevada otra vez
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Knowing that fat bitch, I wonder if Monday brings us a totally out of left field crazyass new EO with the hope that they can turn heads away from this mess while making the fat bitch feel like a real strong boss man
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Schnorkles posted:there really isn't a good analogue in the modern era for the level of failure this is. i mostly mean the fact that bannon had his propaganda mill try and push the narrative of "ryancare" because he didnt like it and didnt want his fat moron president associated with it in such an absurdly transparent way
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