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Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!

ElGroucho posted:

He hasn't hosed his wife in 10 years man

I don't know why I'm asking this, but what makes you say that?

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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

SBJ posted:

Its a pretty legit question and im trying to learn more about the topic by asking for other peoples opinions. Im sorry it triggered you.

i think youre looking for the bad trump thread

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

SBJ posted:

Why is trump deporting illegal immigrants a bad thing? Other than it solving none of americas problems but merely being an enforcement of existing laws for its own sakes

they do the hard jobs

also:


NotWearingPants posted:

Immigrants do fewer crimes so it raises the per capita crime rate.

Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"

SBJ posted:

Its a pretty legit question and im trying to learn more about the topic by asking for other peoples opinions. Im sorry it triggered you.

I'm not triggered friend you are posting contrary to the spirit of the thread, in which we try and "lol", not "ask legit questions"

Kumo
Jul 31, 2004

Captain Yossarian posted:

Shut the hell up idiot

SBJ
Apr 10, 2009

Apple of My Eye

Laughter in the Sky

thathonkey posted:

i think youre looking for the bad trump thread

Im not looking for support. I dont really have a horse in this race. So far he seems like the worst president ever, but that being said not everything he does seems pants on head retarded to me.

E.g. building a wall is moronic, but deporting illegal immigrants doesnt seem that outlandish.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
I know it's not terribly obvious, but this isn't the thread for serious Trump questions. I mean, just a few days ago some moron goon mistook presidential challenge coins for k-cups.

SBJ
Apr 10, 2009

Apple of My Eye

Laughter in the Sky

TotalLossBrain posted:

I know it's not terribly obvious, but this isn't the thread for serious Trump questions. I mean, just a few days ago some moron goon mistook presidential challenge coins for k-cups.

Oh. That is unfortunate

ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL

SBJ posted:

Why is trump deporting illegal immigrants a bad thing? Other than it solving none of americas problems but merely being an enforcement of existing laws for its own sakes

sout
Apr 24, 2014

TotalLossBrain posted:

I know it's not terribly obvious, but this isn't the thread for serious Trump questions. I mean, just a few days ago some moron goon mistook presidential challenge coins for k-cups.

This is actually the headquarters of the #resist movement

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

SBJ posted:

Im not looking for support. I dont really have a horse in this race. So far he seems like the worst president ever, but that being said not everything he does seems pants on head retarded to me.

E.g. building a wall is moronic, but deporting illegal immigrants doesnt seem that outlandish.

You need to go to the dnd thread idiot

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

SBJ posted:

Its a pretty legit question and im trying to learn more about the topic by asking for other peoples opinions. Im sorry it triggered you.

The way it works now, any ICE agent can issue a hold on a suspected illegal alien without a court order. The local police force is then required to keep that person in custody at their own expense, and if the ICE agent hosed up and the person sues then the local municipality is on the hook for any lawsuits.

Sanctuary cities are basically saying, "gently caress you, do your own job and accept the liability for it when you gently caress up." If ICE was getting court orders for these detainer holds it wouldn't be an issue. Cities would be forced to follow court orders. But ICE wants local police to detain people any time an ICE agent has a hunch and says, "Juan Gonzalez... that name sounds familiar... hold him!"

Sanctuary cities supposedly also have the advantage of making policing easier because illegal immigrants are more willing to engage with the police, but I don't know if that's backed up by any actual studies. Rank and file police usually oppose Sanctuary cities because they are fascists.

I apologize for the lack of lols in this post, but I photoshopped Greedo's head onto Trump's sarlac rear end mouth yesterday and I think I deserve a pass.

NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 27, 2017

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
April 1st: Trump sits in the white house and does work

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers

NotWearingPants posted:

Sanctuary cities supposedly also have the advantage of making policing easier because illegal immigrants are more willing to engage with the police, but I don't know if that's backed up by any actual studies. Rank and file police usually oppose Sanctuary cities because they are fascists.

LA Times posted:

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said Tuesday that reports of sexual assault and domestic violence made by the city’s Latino residents have plummeted this year amid concerns that immigrants in the country illegally could risk deportation by interacting with police or testifying in court.

Beck said reports of sexual assault have dropped 25% among the city’s Latino population since the beginning of 2017 compared with the same period last year, adding that reports of domestic violence have fallen by 10%. Similar decreases were not seen in reports of those crimes by other ethnic groups, Beck said.

“Imagine, a young woman, imagine your daughter, your sister, your mother … not reporting a sexual assault, because they are afraid that their family will be torn apart,” Beck said.

Beck’s comments — which drew criticism from immigration enforcement advocates — came during an event in East Los Angeles in which Mayor Eric Garcetti signed an executive directive expanding the LAPD’s policy of not stopping people solely to question them about their immigration status to three other city agencies: the Fire Department, Airport Police and Port Police. The LAPD stopped initiating contacts with people in order to determine their immigration status in 1979. In 2014, the city ceased honoring requests from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to hold people in custody for possible deportation."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-immigrant-crime-reporting-drops-20170321-story.html

SBJ
Apr 10, 2009

Apple of My Eye

Laughter in the Sky

NotWearingPants posted:

The way it works now, any ICE agent can issue a hold on a suspected illegal alien without a court order. The local police force is then required to keep that person in custody at their own expense, and if the ICE agent hosed up and the person sues then the local municipality is on the hook for any lawsuits.

Sanctuary cities are basically saying, "gently caress you, do your own job and accept the liability for it when you gently caress up." If ICE was getting court orders for these detainer holds it wouldn't be an issue. Cities would be forced to follow court orders. But ICE wants local police to detain people any time an ICE agent has a hunch and says, "Juan Gonzalez... that name sounds familiar... hold him!"

Sanctuary cities supposedly also have the advantage of making policing easier because illegal immigrants are more willing to engage with the police, but I don't know if that's backed up by any actual studies. Rank and file police usually oppose Sanctuary cities because they are fascists.

I apologize for the lack of lols in this post, but I photoshopped Greedo's head onto Trump's sarlac rear end mouth yesterday and I think I deserve a pass.

This all makes sense and I now understand how this whole thing can be bad. Thanks.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
Illegal immigrant labor keeps da price of poo poo down

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Dizz posted:

April 1st: Trump sits in the white house and does work

Lol

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

NotWearingPants posted:

The way it works now, any ICE agent can issue a hold on a suspected illegal alien without a court order. The local police force is then required to keep that person in custody at their own expense, and if the ICE agent hosed up and the person sues then the local municipality is on the hook for any lawsuits.

They aren't actually required to do this. There are a number of police departments that won't hold anyone for ICE without a warrant.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/846166053663191040

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
There has always been an easy way to drastically reduce illegal immigration: prosecute the people that employ undocumented immigrants.

Unfortunately, that option rarely gets implemented because the people that employ undocumented immigrants are the people that finance our politicians.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying


lol

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

turn off the TV posted:

They aren't actually required to do this. There are a number of police departments that won't hold anyone for ICE without a warrant.

Yeah, that's part of being a Sanctuary City?

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

NotWearingPants posted:

Yeah, that's part of being a Sanctuary City?

It's individual police departments doing it, not necessarily the city. I don't know if that is what defines a sanctuary city or not.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

NotWearingPants posted:

Sanctuary cities supposedly also have the advantage of making policing easier because illegal immigrants are more willing to engage with the police, but I don't know if that's backed up by any actual studies. Rank and file police usually oppose Sanctuary cities because they are fascists.

fwiw it's contentious even among the police

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2017/0316/Why-Texas-police-are-showing-support-for-sanctuary-cities

quote:

MARCH 16, 2017 —Opponents of a Texas bill that would strip funding from so-called sanctuary cities have gained support from an unlikely source: local sheriffs.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/26/police-divided-over-trumps-sanctuary-city-order/97103552/

quote:

"Local police departments work hard to build and preserve trust with all of the communities they serve, including immigrant communities,'' a joint statement issued by the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the U.S. Conference of Mayors said. "Immigrants residing in our cities must be able to trust the police and all of the city government.''

It is not the first time the chiefs' group, a coalition of top police officials representing the largest agencies in the country, has counseled against expanding local police responsibilities to include immigration enforcement.

Four years ago, the group issued its own “immigration policy paper’’ warning that local officers lacked basic resources, training and "clear authority'' to assist in such matters.

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008

NotWearingPants posted:

There has always been an easy way to drastically reduce illegal immigration: prosecute the people that employ undocumented immigrants.

Unfortunately, that option rarely gets implemented because the people that employ undocumented immigrants are the people that finance our politicians.

Then we elected a guy who used undocumented workers to build his casinos and hotels

red19fire
May 26, 2010

NotWearingPants posted:

There has always been an easy way to drastically reduce illegal immigration: prosecute the people that employ undocumented immigrants.

Unfortunately, that option rarely gets implemented because the people that employ undocumented immigrants are the people that finance our politicians.

And there's also the angle of persecuting the 'small business owner' just trying to get by. Political hotwire if ever there was one.

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010

SBJ posted:

Im not looking for support. I dont really have a horse in this race. So far he seems like the worst president ever, but that being said not everything he does seems pants on head retarded to me.

E.g. building a wall is moronic, but deporting illegal immigrants doesnt seem that outlandish.

MY man I am serously worried that you may somehow have misunderstood the purpose and indeed spirit of this, the lolling @ trump megathread.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
wont someone please think of the lols

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008

Minimalist Program posted:

MY man I am serously worried that you may somehow have misunderstood the purpose and indeed spirit of this, the lolling @ trump megathread.

Clearly you don't understand his 98th dimensional strategy. Check and mate, snowflake. :smaug:

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Dizz posted:

April 1st: Trump sits in the white house and does work

Lmbo

bag em and tag em
Nov 4, 2008
Trump is playing 3 dimensional poker while youre all playing checkers!

Is the dumbest burn. Lol like if you showed up to a pick up basketball game with a deck of cards and Sat off to the side playing by yourself while claiming that made you the smart person in the room.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Cheney finally sided against his own republican party on something and all it took was the possibility of a major war.

lol.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

NotWearingPants posted:

Cheney finally sided against his own republican party on something and all it took was the possibility of a major war.

lol.

lmao

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
big rear end orange man elected by maga loving IDIOTS then lol

cnut
May 3, 2016


I hope this doesn't hurt her brand. If it does she can sue Donald! LOL!

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

bag em and tag em posted:

Trump is playing 3 dimensional poker while youre all playing checkers!

Is the dumbest burn. Lol like if you showed up to a pick up basketball game with a deck of cards and Sat off to the side playing by yourself while claiming that made you the smart person in the room.

how many dimensions is regular poker anyway

bag em and tag em
Nov 4, 2008
Lol

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
how you gonna have that headline and not post a pic of said translator???

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haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






quote:

When the balky hardliners of the House Freedom Caucus visited the White House earlier this week, this was Steve Bannon’s opening line, according to people in the conference room in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building:

“Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill.”

[...]

One of the members replied: “You know, the last time someone ordered me to something, I was 18 years old. And it was my daddy. And I didn’t listen to him, either.”


Lmao

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