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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:Honestly I feel like grappling sports are way more dangerous because if someone doesn't play safe you have a lot of chance to bend/break someone badly or put way too much body weight on a bad area. The most fun sparring I've done is kali knife fighting so have fun with that! kimbo305 posted:This is a good discussion. Thinking to the last person to ask "why isn't there more striking chat in this thread?," Kind of the same reason why I don't attempt flying armbars or jump guard when rolling.
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Bangkero posted:Are you thinking along the lines of whether you or your sparring partner will have anything to gain if you follow through with the kick? And if you do follow through will you have the power needed for a knock out? Or are you pulling your kick since you're being a safe sparring partner? Yeah, I'm pulling the kick so I don't hurt anyone. It probably lands with less force than a decent hook. But I do want to throw it hard for competition. And there, I need to have an answer for how to disengage or follow through from a harder kick. Trying to swing through gives a sparring partner (who presumably isn't hurt by the kick) a lot of time to catch the kick and dump me. But that motion, as I see it, is the only way to approximate the weight shift and followthrough of a hard kick.
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Whenever I get the inevitable "BJJ and judo isn't that bad for you and stuff? Like, it can hurt your knees and back?" I reply "being fat and lazy does more damage to your knees and back than grappling." But really, I had fewer persistent dents and dings on me during the years when I was boxing than I do now. The two times that I ended up with post-concussion symptoms, though, were ten times worse experiences than the worst I've had from grappling (separated/broken ribs). The trick I've found now is if I'm injured in any way, I'm not afraid to take it light. I had a good six months in which I was completely avoiding right handed tsurikomi goshi, right handed morote seoi nage, and certain breakfalls at judo because they were bugging my shoulder. If someone poo poo talks me for it, I poo poo talk them back.
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Also every grappler here should purchase a foam roller right now. Using one regularly will do wonders to keep your hips and back in good shape and not feeling like your muscles are trying to shrivel up and die.
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It's been a long time since I practiced karate but I remember one time during a spar I took a solid roundhouse kick to the side of my torso, right underneath the armpit (maybe I was trying to catch the kick?) and it destroyed me. What is it about getting hit there that's so devastating?
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Mar 28, 2017 11:04
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Probably. I think I remember I did get the wind knocked out of me pretty hard.
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CommonShore posted:Whenever I get the inevitable "BJJ and judo isn't that bad for you and stuff? Like, it can hurt your knees and back?" Lumping those two in together for injury potential is a little misleading also, unless you're at a BJJ school where you always start standing and don't pull guard.
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Kekekela posted:Lumping those two in together for injury potential is a little misleading also, unless you're at a BJJ school where you always start standing and don't pull guard. I lump them together because I do Judo on Mondays and Wednesdays and BJJ on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays, so they tend to come up together in conversations about my physical activities.
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CommonShore posted:Whenever I get the inevitable "BJJ and judo isn't that bad for you and stuff? Like, it can hurt your knees and back?" I reply "being fat and lazy does more damage to your knees and back than grappling." Ive already lost weight since starting this. The drills in the morning really helped with this (hip escapes, caterpillar crawls, rope pulls, etc) Its way better to move in some sort of capacity (doesn't even need to be MA) than be a fat sloth.
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hi liter posted:Also every grappler here should purchase a foam roller right now. Using one regularly will do wonders to keep your hips and back in good shape and not feeling like your muscles are trying to shrivel up and die. Also a lacrosse ball. Easy to keep one at work.
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do yall have any hot tips for getting out of pins? i got locked in a kata-gatame by a purple belt (in bjj, yellow in judo) and his grip was like iron, i struggled for a good minute and couldn't weasel or break out of it. tournament in cbus coming up at the end of april for bjj and i might enter in and see how it goes. i don't know how to lock in much more than the basics but i'm being told competition is the best way to learn
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boy are my arms tired posted:do yall have any hot tips for getting out of pins? i got locked in a kata-gatame by a purple belt (in bjj, yellow in judo) and his grip was like iron, i struggled for a good minute and couldn't weasel or break out of it. There are no hot tips. The one cool trick (tm) is get up onto your side 30 to 45 degrees to start creating space. If both of your shoulders are down, you're hooped. For kata gatame, you need to free your elbow first, either by getting it around his head to the mat, or by shrimping away and sucking your elbow into your stomach. To be perfectly honest though, if a BJJ purple belt had you there, the only reason that you weren't asleep is that he decided to play nice.
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CommonShore posted:There are no hot tips. The one cool trick (tm) is get up onto your side 30 to 45 degrees to start creating space. If both of your shoulders are down, you're hooped. we were starting from that position and trying to break free as a drill for judo practice i guess i'm not being mobile enough and just trying to power through things, i'll try shrimping more. thanks!
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boy are my arms tired posted:we were starting from that position and trying to break free as a drill for judo practice This video is pretty good IMO, tl;dw version: you may need to bridge two (or more) times to escape, first to make space and disrupt the pin (may take multiple attempts if your partner is bigger/more skilled) then more bridging to escape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Im8IKc8NeY
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Dave Grool posted:This video is pretty good IMO, tl;dw version: you may need to bridge two (or more) times to escape, first to make space and disrupt the pin (may take multiple attempts if your partner is bigger/more skilled) then more bridging to escape. wow yeah this really helped! i definitely was not bridging as much as i should have been (in general) we did practice kesa-gatame a little but we mainly focused on kata-gatame and also a little on the one that looks like a north-south choke, it had a long name and i can't remember what it was
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It appears as though bridging and framing are really important to helping to escape these types of positions. Someone had me in side control the other day and this move really helped me in getting out and totally surprised him because he thought I had got him in some sort of arm lock.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT67Grv28k
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boy are my arms tired posted:wow yeah this really helped! i definitely was not bridging as much as i should have been (in general) kami shiho gatame - topside four corner hold - aka North South. All of the flat topside pins are "-- shiho gatame" because they emphasize controlling the hips and shoulders as four points. kata gatame is the arm triangle pin. Videos on escaping the arm triangle will apply to escaping kata gatame, though bjj escapes don't typically have the urgency which judo requires. FWIW I find that kuzuri kami shiho gatame with the lapel grips to be the most difficult pin to escape. I spent a minute looking for a video or image but I couldn't find the exact modification that I mean - you reach under uke's armpits from behind and grab his lapels as high as you can on both sides, and then you drive your shoulder into the back of his head while your cheek is on his chest, essentially pinning him with the gi.
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Neon Belly posted:Also a lacrosse ball. Easy to keep one at work. Keep it in a sock. You can put pinpoint the spinal erectors that way. Also the back buddy is loving great. I bought one the other week and its unreal.
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Mar 31, 2017 03:51
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In a sock?!
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ICHIBAHN posted:In a sock?! Yes, hold the ankle end of the sock in one hand and throw the ball over your shoulder. Your hand counter weights the ball and let's you adjust it to right where you need it. Also you can beat people up with it.
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Your supposed to exert a constant pressure one the muscle for 10s not beat the poo poo out of your back with a club lol
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Mar 31, 2017 09:57
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What in the gently caress
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You don't hit yourself with it, you throw the ball your back and lean against a wall.
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This is hilarious
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lol though at the idea of self flagellating with a lacrosse ball in a sock
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ICHIBAHN posted:In a sock?! Barbaric right?
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i got my first tap at no-gi rolling yesterday evening  side mount into americana but it just kind of happened, i didn't even really think about it coach and upper belts were all like "yeah thats it, good job!" and then next round i immediately get arm barred lmao. no-gi is a lot of fun!!!
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I returned to class yesterday after blowing out a finger tendon a month ago. Felt pretty anxious just walking in the door. My PT friend who had gone through a similar injury was there and convinced me not to grapple til the splint is off though, so I stuck to Art Jimmerson style striking. Not the most satisfying thing but still good to be back in the atmosphere at least.
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I can hear willie_dee getting the vapors on that self-defense stuff: http://drunkcyclist.com/2017/03/28/tales-from-the-trail-getting-stompd/
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kimbo305 posted:I can hear willie_dee getting the vapors on that self-defense stuff: That comment section is a wild ride
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boy are my arms tired posted:i got my first tap at no-gi rolling yesterday evening Congrats! My sensei showed a sneaky cross collar choke from mount setup to armbar that I immediately loved. Cross choke gets the arm up to protect the neck so you can pin a leg under the arm and go through the normal setup of your arm grab. And then it actually worked the first time I used it (on a purple belt that Im sure was going light on me). Faking with a scissor sweep (going one way) and then quickly changing up with flower sweep is another I've been trying.
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kimbo305 posted:I can hear willie_dee getting the vapors on that self-defense stuff: What an rear end in a top hat. I don't know if I would have done better than that poor dude, getting assaulted out of nowhere.
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Does BJJ work on the trail?
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kimbo305 posted:I can hear willie_dee getting the vapors on that self-defense stuff: I feel really bad for the dude, but i don't know what "getting the vapors" means, I like to think I would fight back if someone randomly attacks me like that? Scary thought. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_yS9iQ0qeQ I would of broken this blokes arm for sure though (or at least tried and see how my BJJ works irl) and kept him for the police for sure, loving bike thieves. (its a common distraction/bike theft trick, someone talks to you, someone else takes the keys, you chase them on foot, the second guy wheels your bike out of site, guy loops round and takes off on your motorbike)
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willie_dee posted:I feel really bad for the dude, but i don't know what "getting the vapors" means, I like to think I would fight back if someone randomly attacks me like that? Scary thought. I was actually coming here now to post that video as "actual footage of willie_dee vs bike thief surfaced" but welp
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Xguard86 posted:What an rear end in a top hat. I don't know if I would have done better than that poor dude, getting assaulted out of nowhere. I sometimes think about whether I would try to lead with a headbutt on someone if I had my bike helmet on. Would take it off asap to they didn't have a nice handle on my head, though. willie_dee posted:i don't know what "getting the vapors" means, quote:I would of broken this blokes arm for sure though (or at least tried and see how my BJJ works irl)
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Kekekela posted:bum fights for catfood New thread title please
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Xguard86 posted:What an rear end in a top hat. I don't know if I would have done better than that poor dude, getting assaulted out of nowhere. Yea, someone being an agressive rear end hole is just adult bullying most of the time, I used to get it a bit when I was smaller, don't anymore sadly. It's horrible and if it's a surprise who knows what happens.
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kimbo305 posted:I can hear willie_dee getting the vapors on that self-defense stuff: The comments to this post are loving incredible. Every bad internet argument at once.
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