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spit on my clit posted:jeb did 11/9 Of course, it all makes sense now. How else could George Bush do 9/11 while reading to children at the same time?
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rudatron posted:The anticapitalist stuff scares off dems, but these guys I'm talking about aren't as anti-capitalist as you think, and in many cases they've reconciled the excesses of capitalism with diversions into race and gender, which absolutely did embrace post modernism i totally agree that all kinds if narratives are spun, my main point here is that i dont think your run of the mill liberal tweeters are actually knowingly applying any pomo, post structural forms of reasoning, and that its second hand values and wishful thinking. the same thing can be said for trump supporters, trump lies at a rate of like 100 lies a day, mostly saying things have no bearing on reality -- are trump supporters in the lineage of pomo thought? do they think academic liberals gave rhem tools to meme their president into being? id argue that no-- most trump supporters, just like their liberal counterparts are simply performing values that make them feel good about the folks they want to empathize with my original point is that, while you very well could trace popular liberal beliefs to intro to postcolonialism classes or whatever, they are simply regurgitating values and not employing any actual faculties from these disciplines
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passionate dongs posted:my original point is that, while you very well could trace popular liberal beliefs to intro to postcolonialism classes or whatever, they are simply regurgitating values and not employing any actual faculties from these disciplines I agree with this for sure.
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passionate dongs posted:my original point is that, while you very well could trace popular liberal beliefs to intro to postcolonialism classes or whatever, they are simply regurgitating values and not employing any actual faculties from these disciplines Woke Twitter in a nutshell.
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passionate dongs posted:my original point is that, while you very well could trace popular liberal beliefs to intro to postcolonialism classes or whatever, they are simply regurgitating values and not employing any actual faculties from these disciplines prolix but yeah thats rite
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https://twitter.com/historyinflicks/status/846420858897940480 I'm still creeped out by "democrats" giving hand jobs to people like Bush, Cheney, McMullin and other Neo-conservative cretins.
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spit on my clit posted:the enemy of my enemy is my friend if they hate russia They also hate poors so they're 2 for 2 on having common enemies with the dems
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The Brown Menace posted:They also hate poors so they're 2 for 2 on having common enemies with the dems That's really what it is for those people. Both sides are far more interested in engaging in a culture war and lining people against each other to keep the status quo going.
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Bush is still a worse President than Trump. The Iraq War alone makes it very difficult to catch up with him. Don't get me wrong, I think Trump will get to being worse eventually but people really undersell how bad Bush was. Right now, most of what makes Trump bad is just bad plans most of which he probably can't implement, not hundreds of thousands of people actually dead to find imaginary weapons.
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passionate dongs posted:my original point is that, while you very well could trace popular liberal beliefs to intro to postcolonialism classes or whatever, they are simply regurgitating values and not employing any actual faculties from these disciplines if you study liberals you might also find they breathe oxygen human beings preferring to deal with labels rather than ideas to minimize effort involved is loving elementary
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Bush is still a worse President than Trump. The Iraq War alone makes it very difficult to catch up with him. Don't get me wrong, I think Trump will get to being worse eventually but people really undersell how bad Bush was. Right now, most of what makes Trump bad is just bad plans most of which he probably can't implement, not hundreds of thousands of people actually dead to find imaginary weapons. This. The Iraq War was a monumental gently caress up that I don't think enough people understand.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:This. The Iraq War was a monumental gently caress up that I don't think enough people understand. yeah, trump will probaly be worse in the long run(if he stays in and stuff doesn't collapse though various bullshit) but Iraq was monstorous cluster gently caress run by dumb loving idiots. there is a great episode of the dollop thats on the Iraq war. http://thedollop.libsyn.com/122-the-iraq-war the IC was basicaly sidelinded because they predicted this poo poo, so cheny and rummy got private companies to make poo poo up about the weapons and paint a magical picture about how easy it would be. then they put liberty U interns and wall street rich gently caress in charge of rebuilding and literally pushing trickle down economics.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:This. The Iraq War was a monumental gently caress up that I don't think enough people understand.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-a7650691.html I like all the inadvertent self-owns going on rn
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Darkman Fanpage posted:This. The Iraq War was a monumental gently caress up that I don't think enough people understand. I don't think I've heard a single person - conservative, liberal, socialist, libertarian, anybody - declare the iraq war a smart or successful move in years the only right-leaning professor in my department describes it as the worst foreign policy decision in his lifetime and he's over 50 people may not understand the exact details and the degree, but the vast majority of americans think the iraq war was a big mistake
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like I'm sure they're out there and I'm sure you'll link some dipshit post editorial or something to refute what i'm saying, but even mixed support for the iraq war is a niche position in the us now
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wizard on a water slide posted:I don't think I've heard a single person - conservative, liberal, socialist, libertarian, anybody - declare the iraq war a smart or successful move in years And yet Democrats nominated someone who voted for it because, "Who could have possibly predicted it would go bad? That clever President Bush fooled us into voting for it!"
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wizard on a water slide posted:I don't think I've heard a single person - conservative, liberal, socialist, libertarian, anybody - declare the iraq war a smart or successful move in years yep. the only "good" part of the whole thing is saddam and his chudd like sons are dead. and thats about it and none of the stuff that happend was worth that.
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passionate dongs posted:i totally agree that all kinds if narratives are spun, my main point here is that i dont think your run of the mill liberal tweeters are actually knowingly applying any pomo, post structural forms of reasoning, and that its second hand values and wishful thinking. Because said academics are usually normal people with ideas of 'common sense', ie, the academics are smart enough to be able to ignore the glaring flaws of post modernism, and just selectively apply it when it's useful to them. The Tumblr kids, lacking that external restraint, apply it everywhere - they are the true 'post modernists', not the academics In other words, to do anything of substance, you have to ditch post modernism as soon as possible - which of course the academics do, but subtly, without anyone noticing
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rudatron posted:Because said academics are usually normal people with ideas of 'common sense' this is neither an accurate description of social scientists and critical theorists, nor one most of the good ones would value
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Darkman Fanpage posted:This. The Iraq War was a monumental gently caress up that I don't think enough people understand. just a reminder that the dems ran a pro-iraq war vote candidate who had to constantly defend that vote against a gop candidate that was constantly anti-iraq war his entire campaign hillary has good foreign policy experience only if you think bush had good foreign policy experience
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wizard on a water slide posted:this is neither an accurate description of social scientists and critical theorists, nor one most of the good ones would value
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rudatron posted:It's more accurate than either they or you realize. You don't even get considered for such a position without having some fairly expensive qualifications, so all of these guys come from well off and well placed families. That means they're well socialized. what do you mean by "common sense", and why would you assume a person you define as inherently extraordinary (by dint of having the appropriate qualifications and coming from a "well-placed family") would have it?
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rudatron posted:They don't have to be knowingly applying pomo to say that pomo has had this effect. Pulling a special pleading of "well Tumblr kids aren't really practising post modernism because they're not academics" is asinine - they're taking the post modernism to its absurd conclusion. The fact that they end up with absurd conclusions isn't a condemnation of them as individuals, is an indictment of post modernism itself. They, through their stupidity, are demonstrating the stupidity inherent in post modernism, that learned academics won't expose yeah sorry this isnt a real thing but im not gonna convince you otherwise
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jimmy comparing sanders and pelosi's messaging on healthcare after the AHCA was defeated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2RcTdVMRVo sanders predictably pushed for single payer. pelosi was directly asked whether or not the party would move in the direction of single payer and her answer was effectively a mealymouthed no interspersed with moments of not being able to form complete loving sentences
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nancy pelosi is such a terrible loving face for the party. she can't form complete loving sentences whenever she speaks. jimmy is so harsh on her here that i feel kind of uncomfortable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJLSc2N4VE
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comedyblissoption posted:"stop bringing up a vote from over 10 years ago!!!" - hillary clinton Yep, IMO the Dems to enthusiastically supported the war should be blacklisted from the party but obviously that's not gonna happen. It is the single worst policy decision of my entire life and Dems have to downplay how bad it was since most of them supported it. Too many Dems have a kneejerk desire to "do something" about everything even when government has no business getting involved. Therefor they push endless war, the drug war, gun control, idiotic internet regulations, etc with far more zeal than most voters can relate with. MaxxBot has issued a correction as of 06:05 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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The fact that Hillary picked "gosh darned Bush was too much of a brilliant schemer for me to see through his web of intrigue" as the best possible defense of her vote is a terribly underappreciated page in the election saga.
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steinrokkan posted:The fact that Hillary picked "gosh darned Bush was too much of a brilliant schemer for me to see through his web of intrigue" as the best possible defense of her vote is a terribly underappreciated page in the election saga. its not a bad defense i mean like the 9/11 aumf was literally billed as "lets go murder dudes now no restrictions" and the bombing started before the bill was submitted, while the iraq aumf had enough softening language and contingencies and whatnots to need a six month windup for casus belli that people poo poo their pants still today about the iraq aumf while ignoring the 9/11 aumf entirely shows that ya'll all loving punks and probably too young to actually remember any of what happened
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yeah well not immediately bombing afghanistan would have been unpatriotic 
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You can't compare the two. It was really goddamned obvious what was happening with the Iraq invasion and how bullshit it all was. Lots of people were calling Bush et. al. out and there were ongoing protests. As bad as the 9/11 AUMF may have been, Clinton's vote for the Iraq invasion (and especially when coupled with her refusal to disavow it for so long) is uniquely disqualifying.
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tbf to hillary could you imagine what might have happened if she voted no? she would have been called a coward! and what if they did find saddam's nukes?! what if iraq really had turned into a stable and democratic state?! her political career would have been ruined! no, much better to have gone along with the dubious war.
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