Freep: the most despicable, disgusting and idiotic post I have ever read

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VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

McGlockenshire posted:

To: GuavaCheesePuff

Ted is married to my Uncle�s bothers daughter Grace Ann. I can remember as a kid listening to the family talk about this guy she married, and being so aghast that he was Jewish. All that talk stopped after he made it big. When my dad died they had a mass said for him at the National Cathedral in DC. It made my Mom so happy. Don�t like his Liberal ways, but they were always nice to the family.

62 posted on 3/26/2017, 4:12:00 PM by Empireoftheatom48 (God did help the Republic, can we keep it.)

His uncle's brother...isn't that, just his other uncle?

And the daughter would be his cousin.

"So I went over to my mom's brother's sister's daughter's aunt's grandmother's son's grandson's house the other day..."

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# ? May 13, 2024 11:09

Easy Salmon Recipe: Jan 10, 2017

White supremacist James Jackson reveals deranged desire to kill black men to save white women..

I'm sure this will be calm, somber mourning of the rise in white supremacist hate crimes in the wake of donald's presidency, and a reflection on ho--

quote:

To: Timpanagos1
Well, gosh, I certainly hope this doesn't lead to an anti-white-supremacist backlash or sentiment.
If it did, that would be even worse than being run through with a sword.

2 posted on 3/27/2017, 12:14:29 AM by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The post/sig combo is everything.

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To: Timpanagos1
Never heard of this troll.

3 posted on 3/27/2017, 12:14:40 AM by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance**** BIGLY!!!! Shadilay!)
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...Did he just call stabbing a dude to death for being black "trolling"? Or is posting the article "trolling"? Either one could be true, honestly...

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To: Texas Eagle
James Jackson, 28, offered a window into his deranged, hate-filled psyche...

If a black guy killed a white guy for the same reasons, the owner of the Daily News wouldn�t put it on page 60.

Not that the piece of #### usually prints that many pages anymore.

I�ve hated that mother ####er for too many years to count and will dance on his grave.

5 posted on 3/27/2017, 12:19:11 AM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Yes, no one ever hypes black-on-white crime...

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To: dp0622
[ �Jackson said he grew up in an �almost all-white� area outside of Baltimore. �My family is as liberal as they come ... typical liberal Democrats,� he said.� ]

I�ll bet his white libtard family were a bunch of self-loathing freaks, this no doubt led to the psychosis i9nbred into him to make him so sick...

Chronic Liberalism will breed literal MONSTERS, and this sick bastard is the proof.

7 posted on 3/27/2017, 12:33:49 AM by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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"You know who's really to blame for a white nationalist stabbing someone to death? HIS LIBERAL PARENTS! MONSTERS!"

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To: Timpanagos1
He should hang out with those deranged black people calling for killing whites because we aren�t human. Maybe they�ll sort each other out?

8 posted on 3/27/2017, 12:37:11 AM by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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"This is no different than BLM protesting a white police officer shooting a black cop. Checkmate, libcucks. :smuggo:

# ? Mar 27, 2017 05:49

Keeshhound: Jan 14, 2010; Mad Duck Swagger

VitalSigns posted:

His uncle's brother...isn't that, just his other uncle?

And the daughter would be his cousin.

"So I went over to my mom's brother's sister's daughter's aunt's grandmother's son's grandson's house the other day..."

Not if the uncle is the one who married into the family.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 05:56

tote up a bags: Jun 8, 2006; die stoats die

Bremen posted:

Will they even be able to find another speaker? As I recall they had a devil of a time filling the position last time and I doubt the outrage over Trumpcare/Ryancare is making it any more attractive.

It's gotta be Jeb!

or Cruz

# ? Mar 27, 2017 06:00

Lprsti99: Apr 7, 2011; Everything's coming up explodey!; Pillbug

Keeshhound posted:

Not if the uncle is the one who married into the family.

His uncle's brother could also be his dad.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 06:38

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Zwabu posted:

The funny and sad thing is that in a much earlier time, like, early in the GWB administration, a lot, if not most Freepers used to make fun of Hannity and talk poo poo about what a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging idiot he was. This was back when they used to have people like Tony Snow, White House Press Secretary, having active accounts on the site.

Any freeper who would think like that has long since moved on or gotten the zot.

It's not that they thought that, that's what authority was telling them to say. Freep and like minded conservatives are really just the Republican party bitches. They'll say and do anything one of their authority figures tells them to do

# ? Mar 27, 2017 11:39

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

This Nunes story keeps getting weirder and weirder. The other day it was reported that he got a text message and then basically jumped out of an Uber to go deal with it. Today it's reported (and confirmed by his spokesperson) that he met his super secret inside source for his wiretapping allegations ... at the White House. This means that his contact either had enough access to the White House to routinely meet there, or even more weird, his contact works at the White House.

Logically, freep has nothing on today's story as a headline, but it does have the Uber one. From Lawmaker's 'peculiar midnight run' endangers Trump-Russia inquiry posted by freeper RummyChick

The article is from the Guardian.

quote:

To: RummyChick

some are dovetailing this with the Flynn flipped story..

Flynn�s spokesperson says he is �not responding � to questions about flynn flipping

2 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:32:56 AM by RummyChick

So, why might they be linked? Well, for one, we know that Nunes was also at one of the events where we know that Flynn met with Turkey.

Meanwhile, it's not a problem if you just SILENCE ALL THAT WOULD OPPOSE US

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To: RummyChick

The best thing Nunez could do is shut up Pencil Neck AKA: Schiff.

5 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:35:58 AM by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)

I love it when they don't even bother reading the articles.

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To: RummyChick

So if Nunez was not being tailed by the left, how did they know he abruptly left a Uber ride and did not go to his designated location?

10 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:47:50 AM by Walkingfeather

Freeper RummyChick is starting to get it.

quote:

To: browniexyz

So Nunes in Uber

Gets message

Bails on Uber

Who picks him up after he got out of the car???

Nunes goes to WH grounds after he gets out of the car

Ryan told Nunes to go to Trump

But what really could have caused this?

Flynn flipping news.
Or Nunes finds his name in surveillance docs

something really fishy

17 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:58:58 AM by RummyChick

It's so rare to get freepers to expose their mental filters to us in this way. Very revealing.

quote:

To: Old Retired Army Guy; LucyT; Liz; miss marmelstein; Iron Munro; Grampa Dave; Lazamataz

On a long car ride last night I heard the most extreme demogogue I have ever heard in my life rattling on and on without taking a breath about �Russia,Russia, Russia.�

The voice was running in an automatic, robotic mode, �Russia,Russia, Russia� �Trump stole the election� �Russia is running the United States� �Russia,Russia, Russia� :�Trump and Russia, Trump and Russia� �Hillary was cheated, Hillary won the election�

Droning on and on and on.

Curious to find out who this insane piece of human garbage was, I kept the station on.

At the end they said it was Adam Schiff speaking to the Brookings institution.

I have never heard such raw insanity in my life.

25 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:15:37 AM by MarvinStinson

what

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To: MarvinStinson; GOPJ; poconopundit; ExTexasRedhead; Jane Long; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; ...

Cong Adam Schiff speaking to the Brookings institution droned on and on about Russia/Trump. I have never heard such raw insanity in my life.

Ut oh....sounds like Adam has been speed-dialing The Psychic Hotline....a-g-a-i-n.

That's where he gets all his information.

Actually Donna Brazile told Adam "being a liberal means you never have to think up stuff yourself."

B/c once a liberal has the Psychic Hotline number, they can go on TV and never have to worry about what to say.

29 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:37:14 AM by Liz ( w W)

They still don't understand how journalism works. They probably never will.

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To: ManHunter

Concurring bump...notice also the 'evolution' of this story from Twitter chatter, to partisan news blog, to British tabloid.

Next up...morning television, and then the nightly news...

Seinfeld was right, its a show about nothing.

30 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:39:44 AM by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)

I'll assume that's meant to be "Soros."

quote:

To: Liz

Adam Schiff is channeling Sorso- connected Ukrainian arms dealer Igor Pasternak

A settled deal with Russia over UKraine might prevent WW3 and be bad for business

35 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:49:12 AM by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)

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To: RummyChick

What a hoot � it�s ok for Hillary to send classified data over her unsecured email server and unsecured, off the shelf, Blackberry, but Nunes would have to enter a massive secured vault to even review possibly �classified� documents. Maybe we could go nuts and assume the Chairman of the Intel Committee has access to secure environments for reading classified information every freaking day, without having DNI, NSA, or FBI looking over his shoulder.

This whole attack is very encouraging:
1) Would the communists be stretching so hard to discredit Nunes if they didn�t fear he has something damaging to their cause and narrative?
2) If they actually had something on Nunes, wouldn�t they publish it instead of this stack of silly innuendo?
3) If the general tenor of the stories is true, it likely means that Nunes is trying to evade the illegal surveillance of the CIA, FBI, and NSA, while he investigates illegal surveillance by the CIA, FBI, and NSA.
He�s not showing them his cards; it�s so unfair!

45 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:25:39 AM by Chewbarkah

In the end, nobody on freep smells anything wrong with Nunes, except for RummyChick.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 18:19

ded redd: Aug 1, 2010

That there's even one Freeper with a switch flipping in their brain is nothing less than a marvel.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 18:27

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From Rep. Ted Poe: House Freedom Caucus Moved the Goalpost in Healthcare Negotiations posted by freeper Sybeck1

The freep link is to the "People's Pundit," which I've never heard of. These quotes seem to match reality, though, so we'll go with it. Emphasis added.

the excerpt posted:

Rep. Ted Poe., R-Texas, resigned from the House Freedom Caucus (HFC) after they moved the goalpost during healthcare negotiations with President Trump. As People�s Pundit Daily previously reported, the ObamaCare repeal bill was amended 11 times in an effort to appease the various conservative and moderate factions in the House GOP.

�I have resigned from the House Freedom Caucus,� Rep. Poe, a founding member of the caucus said in a statement. �In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward. Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective Member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead.�

In an appearance on Fox and Friends Monday morning, the Texas congressman said he spoke with HFC chair Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., who asked him to stay. But he explained how the caucus changed their demands after the president negotiated with House leadership to get their provisions into the bill and felt that the caucus was basically negotiating in bad faith.

�They were always going to be a �No�,� he said.

He made a similiar comment over the weekend.

�Some only want to be the party of �no� & would�ve voted against the 10 commandments,� Rep. Poe tweeted.

Freep opinions: the only alternative to gutting the ACA is socialism

quote:

To: Sybeck1

�They were always going to be a �No�,� he said.

Criticism of the House Freedom Caucus from "conservatives" because the HFC rejected socialism. I don't even know what's going on anymore.

2 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:05:49 AM by gdani (Repeal. It. All.)

We're only to the second reply and we're already at full :tinfoil:

status.

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To: Sybeck1

Why do so many FReepers trust the HFC? They supported Ryan for Speaker! This despite his horrendous views on immigration that are in line with Luis Gutierrez, his ultra-liberal Democrat activist wife (BFF with Eric Cantor�s libDem wife) and his history of treachery. I trust NO ONE. The HFC is just as capable of being bribed by the Uniparty as anyone else, in order to destroy their mutual enemy Trump.

3 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:09:49 AM by montag813

Excuse me what!?

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To: gdani

Concessions that they asked for were met. They then asked for more. This mythical �free market� bill is never going to get through a congress who can�t compromise an inch. The free market has been out of healthcare for 50 years. And its all or nothing now?

4 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:10:26 AM by Sybeck1

Freep opinions: so what if the bill was going to kill people, what about my goddamnj 401k!?

quote:

To: Sybeck1

The 20 idiots of the F Caucus also moved the goal post on my retirement, it now looks like I will have to work two more years because they F Caucused my Trump rally and the DOW is down and what do you think millions of Americans are going to say to the F Caucus when they look at their 401k statement, �thank you�?

The Republicans finally handed the opportunity to bring prosperity to America and the F Caucus says No!

What�s the F Caucus going to F up next, the tax cut agenda? They already F�d up the momentum and Trump rally.

Thanks for nothing F Caucus, the Do Nothing Republicans.

5 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:10:50 AM by ShivaFan

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To: Sybeck1

I have a lot of respect for this guy. Negotiating in bad faith is a democrat ploy. I thought our guys had more honor than that

8 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:16:16 AM by McGavin999

Freep opinions: everything to the left of the HFC is socialism.

quote:

To: montag813

What is going on is the right aisle of the uniparty tried to call itself conservative - you know, like true conservatives Ryan and Jeb!

They tried to use labels to swindle us on substance. They got caught in their lies and now they are screaming "betrayal" by those who stood on genuine non-socialist principles.

13 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:19:14 AM by AndyJackson

Freep opinion: ideological purity tests are ... bad?

quote:

To: ShivaFan

Yes these purists has cost us dearly. This was not going to be the final bill. It had to go to the Senate then through reconciliation. Now Trump�s agenda and momentum have been stalled which was much more important than these never Trumpers agenda. Thanks for nothing!!!!

18 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:23:17 AM by lone star annie

I don't think it can be laid on any more thick than this.

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To: ShivaFan

Rest assured. While you are eating dog food from a can in your cardboard box down on skid row, you can at least be thankful the Freedom Caucus saved you from Obamacare, by keeping Obamacare

20 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:29:55 AM by Sybeck1

Freep opinions: Republican politicians that won't vote to take health insurance away from sick people are RINOs.

quote:

To: KC_Conspirator

I tell ya what I think, I think Ryan is lieing thru his teeth.

IMHO The ONLY reason the bill was pulled was because Ryan couldn�t even get the votes of the RINOs. Sure the FC opposed it, but the majority of the push back was from RINOs.

Think about that for a moment. They are out in full force smearing the Freedom Caucus, yet there are other stories suggesting otherwise.

What better way to expose the Freedom Caucus than a Recorded vote? But that didn�t happen did it? If this would have hurt the FC, Ryan would have called for it.

It�s a hell of a lot more logical than Ryan blaming the FC AFTER he pulls the bill from a Recorded vote to cover the RINOS from public exposure.

45 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:33:01 AM by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)

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quote:
To: Sybeck1

The full repeal bill was not filibustered by the Dems in the senate because they knew Obama would not sign it. That same bill would be filibustered today

Change the rules.

47 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:34:35 AM by FreeReign

The filibuster is the only reason we aren�t in single payer now or have a second amendment or why the 2007 amnesty is not the law of the land. Do you really want that to go away?

48 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:36:37 AM by Sybeck1

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To: FreeReign

�I don�t trust any politician. But in this battle, I know which side is right.�

Thank God there are some Freedom-driven folks left on FreeRepublic who have the proper perspective on politicians.

The day when HFC, Heritage, etc are bad things...

And Republican supported 3-part fantasies which involve a secret, hurried (because poison spoils quickly) phase 1 falsely marketed as somehow the only possible option and including fed mandates, subsidies and more are good things...

...is the day I quit taking that pill the party keeps sending me.

52 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:48:26 AM by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)

# ? Mar 27, 2017 18:42

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

quote:

What�s the F Caucus going to F up next, the tax cut agenda?

God, I hope so.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:12

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From We just discovered the SICKENING reason the healthcare vote was PULLED posted by freeper sheikdetailfeather

It's an opinion piece from Allen West's site that's effectively blogspam for a post on Facebook by a group called "Unbiased America." That post whines about how the non-HFC members that came out against the bill all talked about how it made health insurance worse by reducing coverage and removing subsidies. They in turn interpret this to mean that those Republican reps all thought it was too conservative.

Yes, clearly the only truly conservative option is to ensure that all sick people die. We already know freep agrees with this idea, so why are there over 150 replies to this thread?

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

The question, at this point, is which party is destroying itself faster?

2 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:54:27 AM by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

The HoR and Senate are two distinct lavish country clubs. I have no doubt that if they could get away with passing a vote that gave them lifetime tenure with no voting, they would - to a man j- vote in favor of it. Bar none.

I know that snake of a Congressman of mine would do it in a heartbeat.

4 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:57:14 AM by Gaffer

I love it when they talk about their worst fears like this.

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

I think single payer is the next stop and it will pass with minority Republican support, majority Democrat support and Trump will sign it facing a veto proof margins.

5 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:58:34 AM by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)

I wonder if any of them at all actually understand that the ACA is based on the original Republican plan from the '90s, only made worse to deal with '10 era Republicans. I mean, I know tha they know the facts, but how many of them actually understand those facts to help frame the current situation? Oh, wait, sorry, that requires introspection.

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To: sheikdetailfeather

I�ve said it since day one, �Republicans helped pass ObamaCare from the beginning�.

8 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:04:11 AM by stockpirate (There is a coup in progress, catch them, try them, HANG THEM ALL)

Right on...the original one-vote victory was pre-arranged in a back room.

10 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:06:11 AM by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...https://www.siameserescue.com)

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To: ontap

Right on. I cannot believe Trump went along with this. I hear all the deflecting here but Trump really did want this thing to pass. BS that he was giving them rope. He promised us a �beautiful bill� and if he thought that bill was beautiful I am beginning to wonder what his definition of beautiful is!

14 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:15:38 AM by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

The conressional Republicans were never serious about repealing Obamacare. When was the last time the government handed any power back to the people?

19 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:21:11 AM by Daveinyork

I'm astounded that they think Trump will learn anything from this. I'm even more astounded that some are welcoming bipartisanship.

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

Trump gave Ryan the chance to put the bill forward that would have rid us of Obamacare.
Ryan pulled the bait and switch and a few true conservatives saw it for what it was, a half baked scheme to leave parts in place and do nothing to replace the entire mess.
Good for them.

Trump just got his first lesson.....and hopefully the only lesson he needs....on working with the Establishment that infests the Capitol.
He doesn't need to hold ANY loyalties to that apparatus now. He can reach across the aisle, pull the people in that are willing to work together.

It is a defining moment for Trump and the fate of the nation. Trump is no fool, and he won't get fooled by Ryan again.

32 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:39:55 AM by Wizdum (Buckle up! It's going to be one hell of a ride.)

There's this stupid slapfight derail going on about Ted Cruz, by the way.

quote:

To: ontap

Ted Cruz is not now nor will he ever be a �natural born� US citizen. His parents fault. His daddy was not a US citizen and his mother birthed him in a foreign country. Conservatives know the �original� intent of our Constitution and are not deceived by smooth talking Harvard Law schooled lawyers. Get over it.

34 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:41:06 AM by Just mythoughts

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To: sheikdetailfeather

There are too many liberals in congress.

I agree 100%. Right now, we're at war with those liberals. I think we can all agree that the last thing on earth that we want is to see the leftists win this war.

I think we have to keep sight of what matters most in all of this-keeping the left out of power for as long as possible. IMHO, NOTHING else matters more.

Look at how radicalized they have become. Imagine what our lives will be like if they ever manage to get on top of us again.

So, with that in mind, I'm not terribly upset with the GOP right now. I think this was probably the safest move. It isn't a battle that wins us anything.

Taxes-now there's a battle we should all be eager for.

This is war. It isn't warm and fuzzy. It's cold and painful.

39 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:51:22 AM by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)

quote:

To: AndyJackson

�He (DJT) let Ryan hang himself out in a public that knew what he was doing. It is all on Ryan and his friends and Trump had no hand in it.�

I believe you are correct. Considering Trump�s tremendous successes in life I think this EVENTUALLY will be another one. He didn�t, all of a sudden, get stupid on January 21, 2017.

40 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:51:43 AM by MayflowerMadam (Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." A. Einstein)

Well this is certainly something.

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To: New Jersey Realist

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am sure forcing veterans into substandard care was beautiful to trump somehow. If you forgot his reform party run and fell for his act, then, what can Constitutionalists say? Next up, amnesty for dreamers, a Trillion dollar stimulus union bailout, because we didn�t have enough of that in the last ten years. Now I�m thinking he is just going to wall illegals in.. if indeed there really is a wall built.

46 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:02:56 AM by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

There is no way to provide �free� health care.

How do you get people to face reality?

You let reality smack them in the face.

We know that there is no utopia for government, but we really want to believe there is a utopia for health care.

There isn�t.

And, typical of all utopian dreams, some jackasses have come in to try and make themselves some big money by preying on people�s feelings.

48 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:09:04 AM by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")

It's looking like the reason this thread has 150 replies is that the entire thing is a multi-way flamewar.

quote:

To: joesbucks

The Trump supporters ignor facts if it doesn�t fit their narrative....which is �if Donald say�s it�s so , it must be so�!!!!

57 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:17:33 AM by ontap

This Ted Cruz derail is really something else.

quote:

To: ontap

Just like a two year old throwing a fit... your blabs, will never make Raphael Cruz a � natural born� US citizen... perhaps you fit the Obama progressive ideology.. total and complete disregard of original intent, just slap on a �conservative� sticker and ignore reality..

63 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:21:45 AM by Just mythoughts

Freep opinions: gently caress THE POOR

quote:

To: IamConservative

Recipe for failure. I ask, �How did we get manipulated into accepting it is possible to GIVE poor people all the can consume of ANYTHING, much less something precious as healthcare?� If you want to give the poor �all they want� of ANYTHING and make it work it had best be something cheap, not something as expensive as healthcare.

75 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:30:55 AM by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)

quote:

To: RC one

I agree. All this �I the weeds� stuff becomes irrelevant. It doesn�t make it to the radar of Joe Six Pack. Where Trump is losing it, IMHO, is he is playing at President. He is letting the Rats �count coup� by delaying his appointments and blocking legislation. The content is irrelevant as are the persons nominated. The fact is, the Rats and BSM (Brown Shirt Media) are crowing victory with every scalp taken and Trump is not punching back. Trump needs to start hurting these enemies and he needs to start hurting them bad. The more he lets them take scalps without retaliating is making him weaker by the day, which, of course, is their plan.

If Trump wants to turn this around he needs to start putting heads on a pike outside the White House (figuratively, of course). But seriously, prosecute Hillary, tie pizzagate to Soros and hang everyone involved up to and including Soros. He seems to be pulling punches hoping Schumer and the media will become reasonable. Dream on. They know this is war and act like it. He needs to start taking scalps. Kill the enemy and they will start to take you seriously. Playing patty cake with them leaves them sniggling up their sleeves at you.

84 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:40:20 AM by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)

quote:

To: gov_bean_ counter

And why do you feel its the employers responsibility to provide healthcare insurance to the employees? It is a option to bring in better employees to their company....not a entitlement.

87 posted on 3/27/2017, 5:43:12 AM by davidb56

This is long and there's so much I could bold in it, so just read the whole thing.
Also, Freep opinions: it should not be the responsibility of the Federal Government to help poor people not die from being poor

quote:

To: New Jersey Realist; All

�...I am beginning to wonder what his definition of beautiful is!�

Trump has always been clear that he is not opposed to big govt, he spoke well of the existing entitlements often and spewed liberal rhetoric about not letting people die in the streets, etc regarding his own approach to HC - and don�t forget the infamous interview where he mentioned HC as a top/primary function of the federal government.

FreeRepublic is a microcosmic analogy to the point of this article. Which is that the future is dark for Freedom.

The article points out how the balance of opposition to the crappy Ryan/Trump-care bill suggests that the next bloody attempt will likely be more left-leaning than was this left-leaning failure - loved and supported by Trump.

And, by my own estimation, the balance of support for Freedom on this FreeRepublic site is likewise tilting more left than I recall in the past.

To some extent the idolization of our party�s successful Hillary-slaying, invasion-fixing, plain-speaking, America-loving president is to blame.

Trump is fantastic is some areas. But giving him, or anyone, a pass on mistakes is not the recipe for improvement.

Trigger warning.... Trump was wrong.

Supporting the bill was wrong. Blaming the only white hats in this dark comedy, the Freedom Caucus, was wrong. The childish remarks about the HFC saving Obamacare, PP, etc was embarrassingly wrong.

No need to pretend it did not happen and no need to totally abandon Trump over these faults. As well, no need to compromise our collective and individual integrity in some misguided effort to shift blame.

The FR analogy is evidenced by people here considering the HFC an enemy, by supporting various forms of federal level entitlement/subsidy, by agreeing feds should make permanent Obamacare-created popular regulations, etc. Their arguments are not intentionally immoral but they are at least in part intellectually lazy - from the perspective of American Freedom.

I find it hard to believe there has ever existed a political party as inept as today�s Republicans in capitalizing on historic levels of voter-promoted dominance across both the branches and levels of government.

With the House, the Senate, the WH, soon the court, the vast majority of Govs and state houses... this is perhaps the most opportune juncture in American history to right some of the biggest, most suicidal wrongs of our leftward drift.

This won�t happen, but could be yuge and beautiful if it did: Trump starts to lead instead of deflect. And starts to leverage his best skills: showmanship and sorta bigger-than-life on-screen presence. Calls for a very open HC Freedom summit. Invite the feds and the states and the internet. Then highlight the guys he can most identify with, the state executives, the Govs - who generally love to brag about their state-level programs, let�s get their public input and assistance in moving HC functions back into their domain/control where it constitutionally acceptable. Trump is a lousy policy-level politician, but he�s blessed with a great personality and his own style of charisma - he should put it to work on a level that works.

It boggles my mind how quickly some folks, theoretically on Freedom�s Right hand, will support a leftward fed level regulation/subsidy if it seems somehow morally correct to them. Because, in my opinion, they fall prey to the destructive leaven which has infected both parties: the notion that no good will ever be accomplished if not done via the biggest, most impersonal and ineffective level of government. When the exact opposite is true.

Another thing which mind-boggles is the near ubiquitous acceptance of a dreadfully misguided pairing of issues: health care and welfare. Naturally, neither should involve the federal government. But regardless the level involved these are two square pegs we keep trying to shove into some sort of love and happiness drum circle.

Get the gov�t the hell out of HC and insurance and both will be affordable by nature. Then, to the extent they feel necessary, states can get involved on the welfare issue. Entirely separate from HC law/regs. Whether that means states subsidizing individuals costs to join high risk pools for the unfortunately preconditioned, helping the poor pay for low-cost/low-feature insurance, providing low levels of direct care for the poor instead of insurance or simply leaving most things to the market and private charities, none of it should matter to the feds other than help removing decades of barriers.

Health care is only as expensive as it is today because govt designs regarding it are corrupted with an unrelated prime directive to deliver welfare. We can argue and disagree about welfare all day long. In the meantime it is killing our health care system for no good reason other than misguided politics.

120 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:34:40 AM by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)

quote:

To: WalterSkinner

..DJT made two large mistakes in this: giving full support to the Ryan debacle, and then publicly blaming the Freedom Caucus and Heritage for its demise. Attacking the part of the political spectrum that put him in the Whitehouse is not going to help...

Trump�s �Brilliance� and �Art of the Deal� are fracturing our party!

I want to know who in the heck advised him to support Ryancare, calling it a �beautiful� thing, and then attack the Freedom Caucus?

Trump needs to look in the mirror! Nobody told him to tell us he was going to repeal Obamacare at each and every campaign rally! If it was wasn�t his intention to push this, then he should�ve kept his yap shut!

Note to Donald: You�re going to see future rallies begin to have fewer and fewer people. You can�t suck up to guys like Ryan, while ignoring your campaign promises and think that a rally will make it all better. The FC isn�t you enemy...Ryan and McConnell are!

121 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:37:04 AM by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)

1998 regdate!

quote:

To: IamConservative

I think single payer is the next stop and it will pass with minority Republican support, majority Democrat support and Trump will sign it facing a veto proof margins.

My prediction 7 years ago, just didn't think it would happen the first term of Trump.

Pray for Trump to wake up, he is not playing 4D chess, he isn't even in the game right now. Why he supported this bill is beyond me. Why he didn't tell that judge to stuff it is also beyond me. The MSM praised Obama when he ignored the Judges.

129 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:25:05 AM by itsahoot (As long as there is money to divide there will be division.)

quote:

To: MayflowerMadam; AndyJackson

�He (DJT) let Ryan hang himself out in a public that knew what he was doing. It is all on Ryan and his friends and Trump had no hand in it.�

Didn't we have enough Super Secret, Super Genius plans under GW, to last a life time?

134 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:36:32 AM by itsahoot (As long as there is money to divide there will be division.)

Freep opinions: it's foolish to spend millions of dollars to earn a salary in the low six digits, and these idiots have done nothing but study law.

quote:

To: Gaffer

I know that snake of a Congressman of mine would do it in a heartbeat.

Amen to that. What else can we expect from a gang of liars, thieves and perverts? Who else would spend millions of dollars for an election to an office that pays $172 k/yr.?

For most of them, memorizing law books is their sole accomplishment in life. For the rest, being stupid is hard work.

144 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:29:19 AM by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)

Goddamn, even Georgia Girl 2 is giving up.

quote:

To: IamConservative

I also think we are headed for single payer. It like amnesty its the easy way out. Republicans never fail to take the easy way out.

148 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:01:14 AM by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

What the hell happened to REPEAL AND REPLACE? It matters not who is in the WH, the DC establishment will always get its way unless or until the American people actually and physically remove the scoundrels and then make an example of what will happen to them when they screw over the people. Unfortunately, screwing over the American people is just collateral damage to them padding their own and their crony's pockets which is their primary objective of being in public office. Although he may want to, Trump will not drain the swamp. The fact that Trump appeared to fall for and supported Ryan's bogus health care bill (obozocare light) exposes what Trump is really all about. I know it's only been 3 months and it sounded so good but I now have serious doubts that Trump is in it to make American great again. It was a good mantra, it got him to the WH.

154 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:29:30 AM by drypowder

Freep opinions: no, they didn't refuse to vote on Ryan's bill because it would kill people, they refused to vote on it because insurance industry donations would dry up.

quote:

To: sheikdetailfeather

The Rinos sent the repeal bills to zero numerous times because they knew he would veto it.

Now that Trump would pass it, they do not want to go on record as supporting a repeal of zerocare. Because political donations from the insurance industry would dry up.

God help us.

156 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:34:29 AM by Reddy (B.O. stinks)

Freep opinions: Trump wanting to compromise with the Democrats makes him a RINO.

quote:

To: HotHunt

A ridiculas claim with not a shred of evidence...I voted for trump because I had no choice but he is a rhino...he just announced he was going to work with the democrats and throw the conservatives under the bus.

159 posted on 3/27/2017, 10:28:54 AM by ontap

Jesus Christ. I mean, they rail against big money and corporate influence and then turn around and screech about how the unregulated free market will fix things, while others just give up and go "welp I guess our worst nightmares of single-payer healthcare are going to come true now, better dehumanize myself and face to socialism."

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:25

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From BREAKING: Muslims Furious After What Americans Just Did to Them in Montana posted by freeper Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This shitstain of an article is published by Tea Party Dot Org but it's just blogspam from a site called Angry Patriot Movement. It's a rant that uses weasel wording and out of context quotes to shame Democrats for voting against a bill in the Montana legislature that "prohibits state courts from using foreign laws," with the promise that this'll stop the horrors of Spooky Scary Sharia Law.

Here's a fun excerpt.

quote:

You know your position is garbage when you are forced to use and exploit the whole �think about the children� argument � as Democrat Rep. Laurie Bishop so clearly demonstrated. �Let�s not forget the roots of this bill,� she said. �Let�s not forget that our children are watching.�

Yes, I agree, Ms. Bishop: our children ARE watching � and the last thing I want them to see is someone getting stoned to death in the local park because they decided to draw a cartoon which had a slight resemblance to Islam�s prophet.

Let's put that into context using this article in The Missoulian

quote:

Rep. Laurie Bishop, D-Livingston, said the legislation is almost identical to a bill that was struck down in Oklahoma for specifically mentioning Shariah law. She said Regier�s version has the same end result even if it doesn�t say Shariah law.

�Let�s not forget the roots of this bill,� she said. �Let�s not forget that our children are watching.�

So yeah, the article is freep as gently caress. I'm sure they'll love it.

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

America is the Constitution. If you refuse to accept it, you have no right coming here in the first place. But liberals have shown their respect for it, Obama calling it a flawed document containing only negative liberties. More than once I�ve heard liberals say we need a new one for �modern times�.

3 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:25:34 AM by Telepathic Intruder

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Democrats are the first to warn of the dangers of �theocracy.� They yell the loudest about �separation of church and state.�

Yet they do not seem to mind in the slightest having an islamist theocracy that absolutely crushes anything resembling human rights, especially for women.

What hypocrites.

4 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:28:22 AM by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What - 44 traitors voted FOR foreign laws?

I�ll bet a week�s pay they are all Democraps.

9 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:40:02 AM by eCSMaster (Hillary Clinton: the official candidate of the National Sleep Foundation)

Well at least someone's paying attention.

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If the bill passes and it is signed into law, Montana will be setting the example every state in our republic needs to follow.

Actually I think a couple of other states have tried similar laws and none of them passed the legal challenges.

And just out of curiosity, what Montana court case caused this bill to be introduced?

14 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:47:13 AM by DoodleDawg

quote:

To: RC one

This is the result of people insisting that �tolerance� is a virtue.

Tolerance of sharia law is just as stupid as tolerating the return of slavery for blacks.

Jesus Christ came to liberate us from all sorts of sins, one of which is the concept that certain members of society are less than human. I will not tolerate it, and no other American should either.

We sent our young men over to the ME to liberate the people of Afghanistan from barbaric Talibanism. Girls cannot go to school, etc. Yet we are so silly to allow ourselves to be easily deceived by the word �tolerant� so that we would allow sharia law to come to America????

15 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:51:34 AM by Gumdrop

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Uh Oh, Montana did it now. They committed blasphemy against islam. What is the punishment for committing blasphemy? It is death.

What is considered blasphemy in the muslime cult? anything that they say it is.

20 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:06:57 AM by castlegreyskull

quote:

quote:
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"prohibits state courts from using foreign laws"

I don't see this as just targeting Sharia, it can include every bit of BS coming out of the UN as "International Law".

16 posted on 3/27/2017, 3:52:05 AM by mikey_hates_everything

Good. The NWO can pound sand.

24 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:13:02 AM by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: hxxp://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)

quote:

To: exDemMom

�The enemy of my enemy is my friend�... Left only wants Islam to neutralize Christianity...

27 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:36:38 AM by TiGuy22

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People on our side can learn more about DEMOCRATS when they watch the reactions and the votes to outlaw something that they claim is �is not a threat� and �does not exist (in this country)�. Yet they vote to protect it, so that it can slip in (I guess). They claim the bills �not needed� and therefore vote against them.

Here in Texas, I have to get my cars �safety-inspected� every year by people that likely know less about cars, and certainly less than myself. Yet, I guess, these laws are �needed�, when at least half of the states, including California, don�t even require safety inspections? Why aren�t the Democrats pushing to get rid of that law, and likely thousands of other, similar, laws?

Answer - there�s more to it.

30 posted on 3/27/2017, 4:54:28 AM by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')

I love it when they're honest.

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BREAKING: Americans are furious after mussies bring down World Trade Center killing 3,000 and still are.

43 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:04:29 AM by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)

quote:

To: TiGuy22

Exactly right. The left joins up with islam because both groups are anti-Christian. They completely ignore the treatment of women and homosexuals in islam. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

44 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:25:24 AM by JudyinCanada

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not to be provacative but what happens if an entire Muslim community agrees within itself that it will obey the dictates of Sharia Law? It agrees within itself that no issues will be brought brfore a US court. It will deal with all issues internally. For example, each person would agree to allow that their hand be cut off if they are caught stealing. No one would press charges for that assault in a US court. Sort of like a HOA.

What can be done about it?

48 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:39:03 AM by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)

quote:

To: sneakers

Yes, I wish they would too (vote against any form of Sharia Law here in PA). I think we are going to go the way of states with large Muslim populations. There is no will here by the people I talk to...between �it won�t happen here to what�s so bad about it?�....I�ve heard this only from men...do women not have a view about the worth of FGM? What is it about �it won�t happen here� going to �what�s so bad about� that indicates nobody is reading anything anymore.

Besides, if Sharia Law is passed I can�t imagine most men being against it....just look at all the Democratic senators and representatives who have passes Sharira law.

How did we ever get so stupid??

55 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:24:49 AM by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)

Freepers: How did we ever get so stupid??

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Liz; HarleyLady27; MinuteGal; flat; unkus; SkyPilot; WENDLE; ...

I want to know why no one is discussing all the �diseases� that Zero and the RATs have infested our country with via these illegal invaders?

56 posted on 3/27/2017, 7:34:53 AM by ExTexasRedhead

Compare/contrast.

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This already happened in OK in 2010 and a **** federal judge threw it out.

60 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:02:01 AM by The Truth Will Make You Free

Contrast/compare.

quote:

To: Roman_War_Criminal

44 anti-America morons voted against this? Traitors to their oath of office...traitors.

62 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:07:18 AM by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)

Freep opinions: if you are not for an extreme measure, that must mean you are entirely against it in the opposite extreme way!

quote:

To: eCSMaster

Wow, you�re right, that is really pathetic and sad. Over 40% supported the idea that foreign laws may or should apply here. Truth is, we are doomed, because that kind of sick thinking is only getting stronger here. And good grief, Montana? Wow...

63 posted on 3/27/2017, 8:10:12 AM by Professional

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yea Montana...Now, the other states should do it..And Montana citizens, those 44 morons needs to be replaced. Especially the idiot who said, �for the children�, Ms Bishop. Ms Bishop, if you think that children will be better off with Sharia law, why not go to the Middle East with a gay teen, a 10 year old girl, a handicapped child and a normal teen who loves music...Let�s see if they think Sharia is fine....The gay will be thrown off a roof, the 10 year old will be married, the handicapped child dead and the normal teen will be beheaded for listening to music....Nice people they are...

65 posted on 3/27/2017, 9:32:36 AM by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))

loving hell, freep.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:44

Keeshhound: Jan 14, 2010; Mad Duck Swagger

McGlockenshire posted:

Jesus Christ. I mean, they rail against big money and corporate influence and then turn around and screech about how the unregulated free market will fix things, while others just give up and go "welp I guess our worst nightmares of single-payer healthcare are going to come true now, better dehumanize myself and face to socialism."

To be fair, you only need to look at the Trump thread here to see that's not a phenomenon unique to them. I think some people just want to get high off of their own despair.

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:45

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Ah the winning, it's too much!

Leave it to Republicans to throw away a total win

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:47

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

Keeshhound posted:

To be fair, you only need to look at the Trump thread here to see that's not a phenomenon unique to them. I think some people just want to get high off of their own despair.

There are some superficial parallels, yes, including increasing polarization and radicalization, and an increasing willingness to believe any news initially, but I'm about 90% sure that most of the "welp, this is my life now" posts on SA are shitposting. Freep doesn't shitpost.

e: I'm out of time. Someone needs to cover The Civil War is Here

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:52

Duke Igthorn: Oct 11, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

McGlockenshire posted:

I think this has broken freep a little.

You can't break liquids

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:52

Easy Salmon Recipe: Jan 10, 2017

Huh, RimJob pulled the article where all the comments were freepers being "less-than-sympathetic" towards a black dude getting stabbed by a white supremacist.

Gosh, I wonder why...

# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:52

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

McGlockenshire posted:

liberal rhetoric about not letting people die in the streets

I thought dalereed died

# ? Mar 27, 2017 22:28

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

There are some superficial parallels, yes, including increasing polarization and radicalization, and an increasing willingness to believe any news initially, but I'm about 90% sure that most of the "welp, this is my life now" posts on SA are shitposting. Freep doesn't shitpost.

e: I'm out of time. Someone needs to cover The Civil War is Here

Here we go:

quote:

The Civil War is Here
Frontpage ^ | March 27, 2017 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on 3/27/2017, 1:04:22 AM by detective

A civil war has begun.

This civil war is very different than the last one. There are no cannons or cavalry charges. The left doesn�t want to secede. It wants to rule. Political conflicts become civil wars when one side refuses to accept the existing authority. The left has rejected all forms of authority that it doesn�t control.

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don�t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com ...

Basically just a Freep-esque article.

quote:

To: detective
Uncivil War.

3 posted on 3/27/2017, 1:13:19 AM by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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Weren't you guys really eager to fight before?

quote:

To: detective
There has been a civil war going on for a long time. The problem is, only one side [theirs] is fighting.

7 posted on 3/27/2017, 1:25:00 AM by sport
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quote:

To: sport
Well, if the Civil War is here, I say that it started Friday night when my 12 year old granddaughter, in the tradition of the soldiers in our family (Iwo Jima, VN, Iraq and Kosovo), told off a liberal woman wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt at a public family gathering place.

While my son, a veteran of Iraq, said that the woman had every right to wear the shirt, my granddaughter felt that she should ask the woman who she supported a mass murderer, a question the woman refused to address. She left.

Now grandpa�s job here is to provide my granddaughter with the books and congressional hearings on just how many people Che tortured and killed, personally. He bragged about this and reportedly his favorite tool was a hand drill.

I�ve had friends whose family members were anti-Castro fighters. They ended up being shot by Castro and Che because they were anti-communist. This is one of the stories I told my granddaughter. Also having her read books by noted Cuban journalist Humberto Fontova (whose writings appears at FR and FrontPageMagazine, Townhall, etc.

To me, anyone who wears a Che t-shirt should be asked �Why don�t you wear one of Hitler, Himmler, Eichmann or Heydrich too since you like torturers and mass murderers�?

Did my granddaughter just fire the first �reverse Fort Sumtner� shot of the new Civil War? That would also be in the family as some on my wife�s side of the family fought for the Confederacy but the major fought for the Union. At least 17 were at Gettysburg (found 17 listed on one Pennsylvania regiment monument on that battlefield.

If the civil war has begun, count my immediate family in. Collectively been defending America since the 1600�s.

16 posted on 3/27/2017, 1:51:08 AM by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: detective
The democratic system is totalitarianism. This nation never was a democracy. Democracy is a fancy way of saying mob rule.

25 posted on 3/27/2017, 2:13:30 AM by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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Bolding in the original.

quote:

To: Boomer
This place has been tense lately due to this healthcare debate. I myself was torn, and I certainly don't think it's a cut and dried issue whether it would have been better to let this bill fail (which I believe) or instead to desire its passage (which I initially believed).
Consequently, there have been some very opinionated comments by supporters of both sides of the discussion.

I'm convinced that it's a very valid question to ask which outcome regarding this bill is actually better or worse. The President was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't.

The way that Speaker Paul Ryan handled this bill, both in its inception and its rollout, was shameful, because it didn't even have the veneer of what was talked about during the election cycle, and what the voters who elected President Trump wanted (patient-centric, free-market, repeal Obamacare, etc.).

It really couldn't have been a more profound act of betrayal by the GOPe, as embodied by the Speaker of the House. Either Paul Ryan was being deliberately malicious towards the President, or he is so deeply indoctrinated into the corrupt Uniparty Swamp as to be utterly incorrigible.

I believe it betrays Paul Ryan's barely concealed intent to sabotage this Presidency. Ryan is, essentially, part and parcel of the Establishment which sought with all of its might to prevent a Trump Presidency, and his work in undermining the President has just begun, I fear. That's why I believe he should be replaced forthwith.

But I digress. With respect to your rebuke of the tone of my post, your point is well taken.

I hope that my point can still be heard, however poorly it was conveyed in my initial post. Let me restate:

I believe decent and Constitutionally knowledgeable American patriots of good conscience can come down on either side of the question which so recently has occupied our collective attention: tha AHCA.

I also maintain that disparaging someone on the opposite side of the issue as knowing nothing about Constitutional authority, in this particular case, is somewhat gratuitous.

It's quite possible, as annoying as the case may be,that passing this law might have been better for the People, if not the President, than not passing it.

It's not as cut and dried as everyone thinks, IMHO, and therefore the acrimony against those who have a different opinion on what should have happened, should probably be reduced by both sides.

I find this whole series of events educational, challenging, disturbing, confusing, infuriating, and about a dozen other adjectives, mostly negative ones.

Having said all that, my criticism was a response to what you posted�which was somewhat of an insult to the patriotism of those on the other side of this debate�people whose knowledge of Constitutional authority is quite adequate.

As I suggested, I'm convinced there's room for legitimate disagreement on what would have been best for the People and this Presidency, and the realization that those two ideals could be at odds in this case is problematic...

41 posted on 3/27/2017, 2:56:30 AM by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 23:14

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Easy Salmon Recipe posted:

Huh, RimJob pulled the article where all the comments were freepers being "less-than-sympathetic" towards a black dude getting stabbed by a white supremacist.

Gosh, I wonder why...

JR probably needs to keep the blatant racism in check because he knows his gravy train will get shut down otherwise.

chitoryu12 posted:

The left doesn�t want to secede. It wants to rule. Political conflicts become civil wars when one side refuses to accept the existing authority. The left has rejected all forms of authority that it doesn�t control.

It'd be nice if for once freep would see the blatant irony in that they did this for the last loving decade. So much so as to latch on to any nutter conspiracy about authority's nationality and religion.
It's just amazing to see the long trail of skidmarks as they go from full speed in one direction and then throw it in reverse and gun it back

quote:

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans.

Republicans have done this since Bill Clinton

quote:

It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don�t accord with its agenda.

When?
However I can name a few the Republicans have in the very first 100 days of this current administration, not to mention the many many more they refused over the past decade.

quote:

It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

I'm sorry, what party was it that decided to dig in its heals and reject everything because black man liberal was in charge?

quote:

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

When?
Once again I can point out multiple instances where the current administration has done this within the first 100 days.

I mean jesus Christ, these guys are hosed in the head to listen to this

quote:

Well, if the Civil War is here, I say that it started Friday night when my 12 year old granddaughter, in the tradition of the soldiers in our family (Iwo Jima, VN, Iraq and Kosovo), told off a liberal woman wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt at a public family gathering place.

These freeper fantasies are so cliche'd

quote:

While my son, a veteran of Iraq, said that the woman had every right to wear the shirt, my granddaughter felt that she should ask the woman who she supported a mass murderer, a question the woman refused to address. She left.

Yeah, gently caress my hippie son

quote:

I also maintain that disparaging someone on the opposite side of the issue as knowing nothing about Constitutional authority, in this particular case, is somewhat gratuitous.

Now who is it freep currently worships that has no concept of that. It's on the tip of my tongue, guy likes gaudy gold trim and had some stupid steaks, oh what was his name....

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Mar 27, 2017

# ? Mar 27, 2017 23:15

Easy Salmon Recipe: Jan 10, 2017

SocketWrench posted:

JR probably needs to keep the blatant racism in check because he knows his gravy train will get shut down otherwise.

Yeah, didn't he only outlaw the n-bomb because he was listed as a white supremacist website by the FBI or something?

# ? Mar 28, 2017 01:05

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From Repeal Obamacare and replace with freedom. Change House and Senate rules to do so if necessary!, a vanity thread posted by JimRob

quote:

"Prior to this year, the House voted to repeal Obamacare more than 50 times ---when it was clear that President Obama would veto the bill. The problem we are facing is that some of the people who voted for repeal 50 times will not vote for repeal when it counts, when it is "our moment in time," with Republicans in control of Congress and the presidency." --Rep Dave Brat

"This has been my complaint since before Obamacare became law. Nothing I�ve seen addresses the problem of increased costs of medical care. All these bills just shift the rising costs from the users to the taxpayers. The system can�t work if healthcare costs continue to rise at a rate that�s faster than household income." --mbynack

Costs go through the roof when the government unconstitutionally mandates that everyone MUST be covered and must be covered for all kinds of crap they don�t need or want and regardless of preexisting conditions or whether they can pay for it or even if they are not citizens. Tyranny is expensive.

To our Republican Representatives:

Repeal 100% of Obamacare and replace with free enterprise/free market solutions per the U.S. Constitution!

Nothing else is acceptable or workable. Socialism, communism, fascism, central planning, etc, is totalitarianism and never works!! Our federal government and our constitutional republic was not designed to be and was never intended to be a welfare state! Our Constitution was designed to prevent all this TYRANNICAL crap!

We rebelled against a tyrannical king for a lot less than this!

No excuses. If the house or senate rules are obstacles to repeal with a simple majority vote or within reconciliation rules (or whatever), then change the damned rules already so you can repeal this unconstitutional piece of socialist crap with the simple majorities you hold in both chambers! The constitution gives YOU the majority, the power to do that.

The congress and the chief executive have just as much power, authority and responsibility as the SCOTUS (and perhaps even more so) to ensure that the Constitution is upheld! Do whatever it takes to fulfill your constitutional DUTY!

We voted in Republican majorities and a Republican president specifically so you can do this REPEAL deal, ON DAY ONE!

Just shut up the ridiculous whining, hand wringing and squabbling and quit trying to pass additional or watered down but still tyrannical unconstitutional bills and just get the clean repeal DONE as you PLEDGED to your constituents and is your sworn constitutional DUTY!!

For crying out loud are you the elected representatives of the free citizens of a free market constitutional republic or are WE the captive subjects of a tyrannical USSR style communist government with a centrally planned economy?

To all:

Does the constitution even matter to you people anymore?

Does the Republic matter?

Does Liberty matter?

Does a free market economy matter?

Our constitutionally limited government was not intended to take care of us from cradle to grave.

It�s NOT their job!!

Conservatives and the Freedom Caucus are not our enemies. The big government globalist establishment is!

And if we go along with it trying for a free lunch, we are. The government does not owe us health care or health care insurance. It�s NOT a God-given right! Nor is it a constitutional power for the federal government. It's reserved to the states and the people!

Wake the hell up, people, it�s a lot later than you think.

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

Agree Jim!

I�ll guarantee Trump had NO idea what was in Ryancare...No idea at all! He just wanted that sh*t sandwich passed! Then he has the audacity to come out against the Freedom Caucus! These were your promises President Trump, Not the Freedom Caucus!

Sorry, but I�m not seeing 4-D Chess, Art of the Deal, or any other strategy for Trump to do what he did with Ryancare! He is beginning to cause fractures in the base!

11 posted on 3/27/2017, 1:04:25 PM by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

Amen. I hate it, but Trump is entirely, totally wrong on this. We already know the GOP is a bunch of traitorous losers and we couldn�t count on them, but Trump needs to get right.

21 posted on 3/27/2017, 1:15:30 PM by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

I�m with you Jim.

The House Freedom Caucus represents the People.

It seems that no one else does. The Ryan bill would have been a disaster. I feel betrayed by the GOP-e. President Trump obviously has not decided to contest the GOP-e, even thougfh Trump brought the GOP victory. Now the GOP-e will seek to subvert President Trumps agenda.

Ryan must go, and so will Mitch McConnel, who allowed a one week delay to the Gorsuch confirmation process. McConnell should have exercised the nuclear option and brought the confirmation process to an immediate vote.

President Trump is now powned by the GOP-e. His presidency will now fail, time and time again.

25 posted on 3/27/2017, 1:17:11 PM by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(hxxp://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)

There's more. Like, three pages more. But I'm out of time, so someone else will have to continue.

I'm astounded, completely and utterly shocked, that they continue to turn on Trump like this.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 01:32

Annointed: Mar 2, 2013

Will JimRob change his mind or will he do yet another purge? Either way alot of someones are going to eat the banhammer.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 01:38

Easy Salmon Recipe: Jan 10, 2017

Annointed posted:

Will JimRob change his mind or will he do yet another purge? Either way alot of someones are going to eat the banhammer.

Purity must be maintained by any means necessary. :black101:

# ? Mar 28, 2017 01:39

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

Repeal 100% of Obamacare and replace with free enterprise/free market solutions per the U.S. Constitution!

Because it should be free for people to go lay down in the street and die.

How come the people that get government healthcare (medicare, etc) are the ones bitching so much about not wanting government health care. If they were true patriots they'd turn down medicare and buy their own medical coverage

quote:

Does the constitution even matter to you people anymore?

Given some of Trump's unconstitutional EOs got bitch slapped, I'd say yes, but not to who you claim

# ? Mar 28, 2017 02:30

Faustian Bargain: Apr 12, 2014

SocketWrench posted:

How come the people that get government healthcare (medicare, etc) are the ones bitching so much about not wanting government health care. If they were true patriots they'd turn down medicare and buy their own medical coverage

No you see they deserve their medical care, not like THOSE people.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 03:49

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

quote:

Ted Cruz is not now nor will he ever be a �natural born� US citizen. His parents fault. His daddy was not a US citizen and his mother birthed him in a foreign country. Conservatives know the �original� intent of our Constitution and are not deceived by smooth talking Harvard Law schooled lawyers. Get over it.

It's insane to me that these people can believe that if an American citizen goes on vacation out of the country, and happens to give birth to a child while on vacation, that their child is not an American citizen. I know that they only believe this because a black man was elected, but even so.

quote:

[Trump] didn�t, all of a sudden, get stupid on January 21, 2017.

I love when Freep says something completely correct, but not for the reasons they think it is.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 05:01

Easy Salmon Recipe: Jan 10, 2017

Twelve by Pies posted:

It's insane to me that these people can believe that if an American citizen goes on vacation out of the country, and happens to give birth to a child while on vacation, that their child is not an American citizen. I know that they only believe this because a black man was elected, but even so.

It's because they want less American citizens, so they have at least one thing of value in their sad little lives. (Well, they want less American citizens that disagree with them, at any rate...)

# ? Mar 28, 2017 06:12

NachtSieger: Apr 10, 2013

quote:

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BREAKING: Americans are furious after mussies bring down World Trade Center killing 3,000 and still are.

43 posted on 3/27/2017, 6:04:29 AM by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)

I'd be furious too. What the gently caress, America. We invented the ability to time loop specific places, yet all we did was destroy the WTC over and over?

# ? Mar 28, 2017 07:43

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

NachtSieger posted:

I'd be furious too. What the gently caress, America. We invented the ability to time loop specific places, yet all we did was destroy the WTC over and over?

I read that as Muzzy, that French-teaching bear from way back. Or whatever the gently caress it was.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 07:59

Covok: May 27, 2013; Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Mustached Demon posted:

I read that as Muzzy, that French-teaching bear from way back. Or whatever the gently caress it was.

That was a bear!?

# ? Mar 28, 2017 16:13

Tias: May 25, 2008; Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Mustached Demon posted:

I read that as Muzzy, that French-teaching bear from way back. Or whatever the gently caress it was.

I learned English with Muzzy from Gondoland, though this was in Denmark in 1992, so idk :confused:

E: naw, he was a huge fucker with green fur, an alien maybe?

# ? Mar 28, 2017 16:16

Bobulus: Jan 28, 2007

Girl on commercial: "Je Suis La Jeune Fille!"
Narrator on commercial: "Yes, that's French they're speaking, and no, these children aren't French, they're American."
Freeper: "Not my America! :argh:

# ? Mar 28, 2017 16:27

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001

Tias posted:

I learned English with Muzzy from Gondoland, though this was in Denmark in 1992, so idk

E: naw, he was a huge fucker with green fur, an alien maybe?

Pretty sure he was an alien or maybe a friendly monster, what with the clock-eating obsession. Muzzy was how I didn't really learn French back in the late 80s.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 17:21

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

I was like 6 ok? Big, fuzzy beast thing meant bear.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 17:30

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

All this talk of Muzzy but none of Babar? Bah.

Anyway, let's look at some titles on freep!

Let's take a quick look at the last one. It's a vanity thread by freeper Siram.

the OP posted:

Please call Devin Nunes' office and tell him to stand strong. Also I'm sure he would appreciate your prayers.

[phone number redacted]

quote:

To: Siram

Always, Always, Always do the opposite of what the dems want you to do.

2 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:15:24 AM by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")

quote:

To: Siram

Hope he�s got protection.

3 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:16:18 AM by Sacajaweau

GOD IS FIXING IT RIGHT NOW I SWEAR

quote:

To: Siram

Hey Praying is the one thing I can do right away.

Oh.....one going up there it goes!

4 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:17:58 AM by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

quote:

To: Siram

Is there a reason you posted a fax number to have blasted in our ears?

8 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:27:35 AM by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)

And now a handful of posts from the other threads, from the bottom up.

Hi WENDLE!

quote:

To: COUNTrecount

We want those documents!! Bring them to the people!! We want the main document that authorized the unmasking of the Trump people that were subject to the politically motivated �wire Tapping�. These were not �incidental� IMO. They were targeted. WHERE IS THE RELATED FISA WARRANT?? We want it now!!
Devin Nunes is the greatest patriot since Paul Revere!! � The illegal wiretaps are coming :. Go man go. Hit them again to day. They are staggered and falling!! This is HUGE!! The Russian Collusion hoax is a nothin burger!!

16 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:56:17 AM by WENDLE ("Sanctuary" cities break federal criminal law!!-- JAIL!!)

quote:

To: COUNTrecount

IS ANYONE GOING TO *PROBE* THE HILLIARY EMAILS???

HELLLOOOOOOOOO.......???????

20 posted on 3/28/2017, 9:02:28 AM by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)

Next thread.

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

The Dems are afraid the Nunes will let the cat out of the bag that Trump and his staff were �Wiretapped/Surveilled�. When the democrats are exposed on that and then it is concluded that nobody in the Trump Administration colluded with the Russians they will be sitting there with egg on their faces and no more arguments to excuse their electoral failures. But then again, that will just be an opportunity to invent somethings else. Stay tuned!

8 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:42:26 AM by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

We need to support this guy...he did what he was suppose to do, he received the information and went directly to President Trump with his findings...

The reason the libs are upset is they don�t exactly know what all is in all the information, we have pedophilia going on, we have foreign country deals that have been going on, we have �back room deals� that have been going on...

Support Nunes...

9 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:43:33 AM by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)

Hi again WENDLE!

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

Nunes absolutely rejected their ludicrous call!! There is no reason to do anything but keep exposing the obama White House felonies of illegal wire taps and unmaskings!! We want indictments!! NO WAY!! ( I hope Jeff Sessions is watching and not recusing)) Their bs is political cover up for felonies committed by the obama White house in using intelligence agencies wire tapping and exposing those wiretapped by committing felonies to advance the political positions of the Democrat leftists . That makes Watergate look like Captain Kangaroo. This was the greatest abuse of power in our history by far!! It is absolutely true.

14 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:45:59 AM by WENDLE ("Sanctuary" cities break federal criminal law!!-- JAIL!!)

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

Trump Administration: Please stop giving the dems/media fodder to their fake news attempts. Don�t spend time talking about their lies.

Make a statement if needed, and change the subject. Don�t let the media/dems continue on a subject that is bogus from the getgo.

Trump is good at getting the media to follow him.. have a program (Fox would air it) of supporters who wish to spout about the good and the bad that is trying to stop the progress. Have a panel of people NOT in the government who support what Trump wants to do. Have a fun episode that would be picked up on the news. Do things that the media would cover and get the subject OFF the lies.. change the subject!! Get it out of Washington... out of the dems� reach.. out of their control.. and change the subject!! Don�t let them go on day after day in destruction. News is old in a few minutes...and people have a short attention span.. CHANGE the SUBJECT!

34 posted on 3/28/2017, 9:24:17 AM by frnewsjunkie

Next thread.

quote:

To: ColdOne

Speaker Ryan should respond by REMOVING Quisling Schiff from the committee.

2 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:29:06 AM by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)

quote:

To: ColdOne

Nunes looked at intercepts of Trump�s team, having nothing to do with Russia, and told Trump.

Of course he should tell Trump, and Sessions too.

This is evidence of an apparent crime, and it should be reported to the Trump Administration for investigation and prosecution.

So the gaslighting position of the MSM/Dems appears to be, if a Congressman comes across evidence of a crime, he should NOT tell the executive branch so it can be investigated and prosecuted?

If the MSM weren�t simply a propaganda arm of the Democrat party, they would point out how absurd the position of the Dems is here.

10 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:41:18 AM by Meet the New Boss

Man, I wish we could have longer thread titles.

quote:

To: ColdOne

I want the democrats to howl like stuck pigs, stomp their collective feet, and cry like little girls.

11 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:41:26 AM by M Kehoe

quote:

To: ColdOne

Pelosi, you wicked Jezebel, you have no moral authority to question, criticize, or demand anything from anyone. You should promptly attach yourself to a large rock and cast it into the sea, as Christ admonished people such as yourself to do.

You and the tyrannical left, of which you are a leader, have offended by committing crimes against nature, humanity, and this nation that FAR exceed anything the founders fought against in the Revolutionary war. And without the removal of tyrants such as yourself from society it will be necessary to fight a 2nd Revolutionary war.

22 posted on 3/28/2017, 9:05:55 AM by unlearner (So much winning !!! It's Trumptastic!)

quote:

To: Obadiah

You don�t get it yet. We are experiencing a slow moving 2 year long, coup de tat. The Republicans are in on it. The intelligence community is in on it. The deep state is in on it.

Anyone who stands up for Trump will be eliminated by the usurpers. Nunes is as good as gone.

The plan is to isolate him day by day by day until the next election where they will hand the Senate back over to the Dems to try and wrestle back control and save the big government, globalist, socialist oligarchy.

28 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:26:30 AM by nitzy

Next thread, the one on Yates.

Freep opinions: yes of course lawyers should always try to defend things they think are unconstitutional.

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

she ordered Justice Department lawyers not to defend his first immigration order temporarily banning entry to United States

They should have also Filed a Formal �Abandonment of Client� case with the BAR Association and had her DISBARRED!!!

3 posted on 3/28/2017, 7:47:02 AM by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

sally yates and wapo (the voice of the deep state) are two huuuuuge piles of excrement ....
anyone who believes either is misinformed...
both political operatives with a subversive agenda
hwere was salyy when the clintoons were play for pay with guestra putin uranium one and podesta joule stock...???

14 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:00:55 AM by zzwhale

So does freep just simply not understand how long-running projects run in organizations or something?

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

With all due respect..what they f�k would she know about Trump and Russia? that�s not even logical....

If it something the AG office was doing before Trump came in to office then Eric Holder would be the logical person to talk about it

If it was something after Trump came in to office while she was acting AG for that short time why would anybody from the Trump camp be telling her anything about Russia?

Trump and office in the 20th and she was out of office on the 30th that�s 10 days ...what possible unique information did she acquire in 10 days ?

This is political theater by the Dems because she made a name for not defending Trumps travel ban

21 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:21:30 AM by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

Isn�t Yates the political hack who let her foolish Communist-inspired opinions and emotions govern her actions rather than being guided by the law?

Yates clearly showed by her actions that she was unfit to hold any position of public responsibility, let alone the high position from which she was removed.

Such positions must be filled by individuals having the highest ethical standards as well as a respect for the law and a high level of trustworthiness, none of which were evidenced by Sally Yates� reckless and personally-motivated actions.

29 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:56:42 AM by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")

Maybe they should actually read the letters from the DoJ that are in the hands of the press right now?

quote:

To: SeekAndFind

It is friggin amazing how many people on this board jump on things put out by the NYT, WP and other MSM as being factual. This is a lie by the WP. The WH did not claim Executive Privilege to keep her from testifying which is what the WP is trying to claim. This is more fake news by the fake news WP.

34 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:40:25 AM by falcon99

# ? Mar 28, 2017 18:51

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

To: COUNTrecount

IS ANYONE GOING TO *PROBE* THE HILLIARY EMAILS???

HELLLOOOOOOOOO.......???????

20 posted on 3/28/2017, 9:02:28 AM by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)

They did, multiple times in fact. Where the gently caress were you?
And why should it matter, she's not involved in politics anymore while your scammer god is
But I shouldn't expect this dumbshit to have enough brain cells to rub two together given his sig. gently caress you dude, I hope you lay down in a street soon

I also can't believe some of those fuckers still believe pizzagate is true.

quote:

To: Obadiah

You don�t get it yet. We are experiencing a slow moving 2 year long, coup de tat. The Republicans are in on it. The intelligence community is in on it. The deep state is in on it.

Anyone who stands up for Trump will be eliminated by the usurpers. Nunes is as good as gone.

The plan is to isolate him day by day by day until the next election where they will hand the Senate back over to the Dems to try and wrestle back control and save the big government, globalist, socialist oligarchy.

28 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:26:30 AM by nitzy

Remember kids, if you do illegal poo poo and get investigated for it it's not the law or justice, it's the "deep state" some loony old man peddles out down the street

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 28, 2017

# ? Mar 28, 2017 18:57

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

If anything, Paul Ryan should be looked into for being a chomo. GOP speakers have a rich history of abusing kids.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 19:02

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From Are facts now considered 'white supremacism'? posted by freeper rktman

This is an article from good old WND.

IM TOTALLY NOT A WHITE SUPREMACIST APOLOGIST, GUYS posted:

I would like you to read the following quote and tell me what it is really saying and what it is advocating. Dr. Chris Emdin of Columbia University writes: �I want white teachers to teach in the hood, believe it or not. I�m for that. But I want them to do it in a way that makes them effective and not burnt out. Black teachers with white supremacist ideologies [are] just as dangerous as white folks who don�t understand culture.�

Your time is up. If you understood or guessed that Emdin is advocating for the continued dysfunctional and destructive behavior that has plagued blacks and specifically those in urban environs for generations, then you understood correctly.

Just what are the �white supremacist ideologies� associated with the presentation of factual American history, civics, mathematics, English, science, biology, chemistry, the study of Shakespearean literature, English literature, engineering, physics, personal finance, personal health and hygiene, etc.?

Oh my god I just clicked through to the article and the author is black. Anyway, more:

posted:

Downs writes that Emdin �draws parallels between current urban educational models and Native American schools of the past that measured success by how well students adapted to forced assimilation.� Are we to take by that reasoning that the Native Americans were better off not being able to add, subtract, read, write and attend to the basic realities of day-to-day life consistent with modernity, by continuing to dress in skins and feathers? Were they better off living in teepees or structures with indoor plumbing? Were they better off not advancing to the point of owning casinos based upon the application and implementation of what they were �forced to learn?�
[...]
That which is being advocated is no different than San Diego, San Bernardino and Oakland, California, schools systems institutionalizing black children being taught Ebonics instead of standard English.

The entire article is one long THOSE USELESS LAZY ~~NIG~~URBAN YOUTH NEED TO SHUT UP AND ACT LIKE NICE CIVILIZED WHITE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF THUGS dogwhistle, only the dogwhistle has been replaced with a tornado siren.

quote:

To: rktman

I really doubt any of the progs fully believe their lunatic ravings. I think mainly they have a very deep seated inferiority complex that is taken advantage of by the very cynical.

Don�t get me wrong I am not out to save any libtard they can all rot face down in a ditch but I don�t take their ravings seriously.

4 posted on 3/28/2017, 6:46:48 AM by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)

quote:

To: rktman

Another example of the liberal bastardization of the formerly respectable title of �Professor�.

If this idiot is a professor, Krugman is an economist and Dorkbama the Muslim eunuch is an intellectual.

5 posted on 3/28/2017, 6:52:01 AM by Da Coyote

"Atavism is the tendency to revert to ancestral type. In biology, an atavism is an evolutionary throwback, such as traits reappearing which had disappeared generations before."

quote:

To: rktman

What�s the alternative for these racists� to admit that in many ways white people in the US created a unique government with a lot of good ideas about freedom and respect for people, while that the �black culture� is still stuck in atavism? Of COURSE they have to blame the US�s historically unique success on �white supremacy�! They really don�t want �equality�� what they want is to take the power and wealth others have created, and in the US it just happens to be white people who have had it. Greed is human nature.

6 posted on 3/28/2017, 6:55:03 AM by mikeus_maximus (The liberal Left promotes hate and violence.)

quote:

To: mikeus_maximus

I always bring up the success of Asians and they have no answer for that.

10 posted on 3/28/2017, 7:00:44 AM by TigerClaws

quote:

To: I want the USA back

I think more and more white people are getting fed up with groveling to the race hustlers.

13 posted on 3/28/2017, 7:06:36 AM by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)

quote:

To: rktman

Every invention, every play, every novel, every discovery, every civilization must be presented as having been accomplished by a person of color who is not an uncle tom. And western civilization is bad.

That�s how I read it anyway.

18 posted on 3/28/2017, 7:18:15 AM by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)

quote:

To: rktman

Facts have been racist for a long time.
For instance, half of all violent crime is committed by a group that comprises about 13% of the population.
Facts are very, very racist.

19 posted on 3/28/2017, 7:36:54 AM by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)

We've seen a lot of 1999 freeper tophat9000 lately.

quote:

To: tophat9000

Look at where we�re at right now ...if you say there are 2 gender its political heresy. You must state that that any number of gender that state want you to say. This is so close to what in �1984� its spooky...it really is a thoughtcrime now to say self evident truth �2+2=4� (there are two genders male and female)

�Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
George Orwell, 1984

Freedom is the freedom to say that there�s two genders, male and female. If that is granted, all else follows.�
Tophat, 2017

23 posted on 3/28/2017, 7:58:00 AM by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)

quote:

To: rktman

What is more dangerous to young people today? Guns, drugs or college professors?

26 posted on 3/28/2017, 8:00:36 AM by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and thse religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)

quote:

To: rktman

education, wisdom and fact is white supremacism?

Could this be why Africa is still in the dark ages and why all the brilliant blacks happen to be conservative branded uncle Tom?

Perhaps this could very well be double think. If I were a nasty racist, I would poison the black community with this very mentality.

35 posted on 3/28/2017, 10:25:21 AM by mainestategop (Dont Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)

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# ? May 13, 2024 11:09

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

I'm out of time, someone please do Donald Trump slams Freedom Caucus on Twitter, says Democrats will �make a deal�, a whole bunch of them are actively turning on Trump over this poo poo.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 19:06

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