therobit posted:

I also get the impression that a lot of them are really young yet and may change thier tune later. I know that some women do come under a lot of pressure to have kids from their parents but the r/childfree folks probably are not mostly made up of those women. They are probably offended that the social norm is not with them.

Pelvic Floor Wax posted:

I [27f] just had a complicated root canal and my husband [31m] could care less


oh okay, your husband sounds like a bit of a dick and...




wtf happened between these 2 posts?

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

He can just call their bluff and refuse to hand over his phone. Chances they actually gently caress up his life: low. Most parents aren't actually willing to kick their kid out onto the street even if they're willing to threaten it.

new phone who dis posted:

They could just deactivate it through the company though. He better have some real important things to say the night he pulls that one. Almost every kid bluff can be called fairly easily because they are idiot kids.

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Just start leaving brochures for really lovely retirement homes around geez kid learn what leverage is

Benagain posted:

Much like the most misogynist straight dudes fear gay men will do them what they do to women, the shittiest boomers fear that their children will do to them what they did to their parents.

therobit posted:

Honestly grandma's foster care home was pretty good, and was necessary once the assisted living facility was no longer appropriate to her needs. Dad was just scared of the words "nursing home" because that generation saw thier grandparents/great uncles and aunts living in squalor and neglect in some pretty horrific ones back in the day.

DrPlump posted:

VanSandman posted:

Maybe you'd be MirthFUL with children in your life.

VanSandman posted:

Maybe you'd be MirthFUL with children in your life.

VanSandman posted:

Maybe you'd be MirthFUL with children in your life.

Play posted:

lmbo

the one thing childfree is correct about is family and friends pressuring people who don't want children into having them is very silly. Let them make up their mind on their own.

Everything else about childfree is... well it's something different and basically involves every single kind of failing a human can have

boner confessor posted:

being childfree is like being a vegan, good for you if you make that choice but some people will think it's weird for better or worse and if you make this decision part of your identity then you're going to come off even weirder

ArbitraryC posted:

I think you're close but a bit off, I can sympathize with women who come to resent the social atmosphere because it's like you're trapped in a world where condescending vegans are the majority instead of an obscure minority and you can't go a day or week without friends, family, even total strangers judging you for your life choices. Childfree people are weird but they're not actually pushing their gospel, they just turn to the insular community cause they wanna be left alone.

It'd be more comparable to the opposite of what you're suggesting, if people with normal diets just dropped everything and were huge dicks about you not eating meat anytime the subject came up.

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Me and my boyfriend have been together for three years and have lived together for one year. I've been a vegetarian since I was eleven years old through my own choice, no one else in my family is veggie. My bf eats meat. Although my dream, ideal partner probably would be a vegetarian, I view this as a Dan Savage 'price of admission' for an otherwise great guy.
Usually we cook veggie meals and he adds meat to them. If he wants a meal where that doesn't work, we just cook our own things and eat them together. The cooking works out to about 50/50 and so does the cleaning, so I don't think the problem is with that. He eats meat most days, I have no problem with meat in the flat. I won't cook it, that's all, cause it grosses me out. Meat pizzas and stuff like that I don't mind, but nothing than involves really touching the meat.

Recently he's been really obsessed with my vegetarianism in a way he never had before - he's always made stupid jokes but that's a better reaction than a lot of people. He's proper grilled me about it around four times in the past fortnight. Anyone who's been veggie know how annoying those constant conversations are. He's started genuinely saying that its stupid, unhealthy, hipster, all that stuff. I've shown him the studies saying vegetarians usually live longer, that a veggie and even vegan diet is accepted unanimously by dieticians as just as healthy as a meat one - he just doesn't accept it. He has a far worse diet than I do! I don't snack, don't eat fast food, don't have sugary drinks and he does all the time. (We're both slim however.) He's been asking if I'd ever quit a lot too. I'd like to point out that I never bring my vegetarianism up in conversation because usually people just try to lecture you. Whenever we talk about it, he brings it up.

Now, there's been a handful of times in the past few weeks when he'll cook a meal for us and I'll notice that it's not vegetarian. Some examples:

He made spag bol saying it was quorn when it just obviously wasn't. They don't look the same. When I pointed this out, he just laughed and said it was a brain fart and he forgot - which, okay, whatever, I guess that could happen.

He gave me a sandwich with ham on it (another mistake, apparently, since he was making us both them and just put the ham on both, despite this never having been a problem before).

He made himself a bacon butty and asked if I wanted an egg one. I say yes and when I walk into the kitchen he's using the same pan that he'd used for bacon. He said he didn't know this was a problem when he 100% did because he always swapped pans before this. And it's not about the washing up, because when he cooks, I wash up and the other way around.

He made chicken enchiladas and told me they were veggie. Luckily I saw the chicken when I cut it in half. Same excuses: an honest mistake.

I thus far haven't accidentally eaten any meat. I've been cooking for myself for the past week, but he keeps offering to cook for both of us. Am I just being paranoid? The idea of him sneaking meat into my food seems crazy but it really seems like he is! Why would he even bother to do that??

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So after posting, I stuck to only eating food I'd made and my bf got more and more antsy about cooking for me. I sat him down the next day and asked him the same stuff: if he had a problem with my vegetarianism, why he was trying to contaminate my food: since I asked WHY and not IF, he blew up. Demanding to know why I didn't trust him, how I could accuse him of this. He also kept trying to get me to explain why I'm veggie in the first place, but he knows this well so I didn't let him derail the conversation. Eventually, after the most frustrating, circular argument ever, he stormed off to our bedroom. We didn't speak that night or the morning.

When I got home the next day, he'd actually gone and cooked an entire chicken "for us". He asked me if I'd eat it. It was so surreal: him stood at the kitchen counter with this cooked chicken asking me to eat it when he's never known me to eat meat, as if we hasn't been arguing about this at all. I didn't even respond. I shouldered my way past him to the fridge ... which was a massive mistake. I guess he went a little nuts. I still can't really believe this happened, but he grabbed me by my hair at the back on my head and with another hand tried to force chicken into my mouth.

I am still shocked by this. It was terrifying, he was so much stronger than me. He didn't succeed and after some moments of me struggling, he let go. He just stood there, looking defeated while I literally ran out of the kitchen and got some stuff and went to my parent's. I'm there now, it's been the better part of a week. He's agreed to move out: put up no fight for the flat or for us (which I wouldn't accept of course anyway). When we spoke on the phone to decide this, he sounded ashamed. Quiet. I hope he's ashamed.

I'll never know why he suddenly snapped about my vegetarianism and I frankly don't care anymore, he's obviously just a wanker to do that anyway. This past month or so has been so different to the test of our relationship, it's crazy, but there's no coming back from this. I'm well shot of him.

ArbitraryC posted:

I think you're close but a bit off, I can sympathize with women who come to resent the social atmosphere because it's like you're trapped in a world where condescending vegans are the majority instead of an obscure minority and you can't go a day or week without friends, family, even total strangers judging you for your life choices. Childfree people are weird but they're not actually pushing their gospel, they just turn to the insular community cause they wanna be left alone.

CharlestheHammer posted:

I don't know where you get it the idea that childfree don't preach their gospel because they do. Preaching is what makes them childfree.

It goes poorly but they try.

ArbitraryC posted:

I mean just realworld examples, if you had to take a bet right now about which would happen first: someone would be weird about you not having children vs being weird about you having children what odds do you think it'd take for you to come out ahead.

CharlestheHammer posted:

I honestly don't care.

ArbitraryC posted:

I mean just realworld examples, if you had to take a bet right now about which would happen first: someone would be weird about you not having children vs being weird about you having children what odds do you think it'd take for you to come out ahead.

ArbitraryC posted:

Women being harassed over their choice to not have kids tho, that's basically 100%.

ArbitraryC posted:

you're dodging the question, yeah some internet weirdos who resent people having kids exist but it's not like a thing commonly experienced by people in the realword or even something most people have run into even once outside the internet. Women being harassed over their choice to not have kids tho, that's basically 100%.

boner confessor posted:

*points towards a big rear end placard labeled Exhibit A*