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warhammer651 posted:Actually, you CAN jump and sprint, just not all the time. I spent that sequence stumbling around in a small circle near enemy groups until it let med dodge, then using the 5-6 seconds of sprint I got to run past them and out of aggro range I found that even when limping along I could outrun the stubbies
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I sometimes see a larger bit of orange added onto my life bar, or sometimes my life bar extending far past the edge of the screen. Will that ever be explained?
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Mar 29, 2017 00:55
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Sometimes I feel like I missed something, because (Route C) when people talk about this part where they have to move a hobbled 2B around I get confused because I don't remember it. You don't mean the part where basically 2B moves to where A2 is in front of the forest kingdom?
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Mar 29, 2017 00:56
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Yeah it's right before she dies
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Mar 29, 2017 00:57
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Pollyanna posted:I sometimes see a larger bit of orange added onto my life bar, or sometimes my life bar extending far past the edge of the screen. Will that ever be explained? The first is the +Max HP effect from recovering an android corpse running out, afaict. The latter seems to be an "error" to indicate that something is messing with your character.
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Mar 29, 2017 00:58
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SHISHKABOB posted:Yeah it's right before she dies That's funny because I had such little problem with that segment that it's confusing how there COULD be trouble with it. Like I basically remember moving her to that quest marker with zero difficulty.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:00
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:That's funny because I had such little problem with that segment that it's confusing how there COULD be trouble with it. Like I basically remember moving her to that quest marker with zero difficulty. Basically if you get punched by a medium you go flying like a cartoon character. If you fall into a pit because of this or get pushed into a corner by a mob then good luck.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:05
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:That's funny because I had such little problem with that segment that it's confusing how there COULD be trouble with it. Like I basically remember moving her to that quest marker with zero difficulty. They literally gimp your controls ever 6 seconds, it's intended to be an exercise in frustration.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:04
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Paracelsus posted:The first is the +Max HP effect from recovering an android corpse running out, afaict. The latter seems to be an "error" to indicate that something is messing with your character. Oh. Duh. I was hoping I had stumbled upon some sort of hidden thing. Oh well. By the way, is it safe to skip through the credits every time after the first? Like the whole "Hold O to skip" thing? E: Never mind, answered my own question.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:04
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Sometimes I feel like I missed something, because (Route C) when people talk about this part where they have to move a hobbled 2B around I get confused because I don't remember it. You don't mean the part where basically 2B moves to where A2 is in front of the forest kingdom? My genius moment (route C spoiler): Using self-destruct in the bunker immediately after beating Eve in route B before saving Opposing Farce posted:You do a counter attack by pressing light attack, heavy attack, or pod fire during a perfect dodge. Every weapon type has a different counter move and your pod has one too, which is the explosion you mentioned. Launching into the air is the light sword counter.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:08
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tap my mountain posted:They literally gimp your controls ever 6 seconds, it's intended to be an exercise in frustration. Actually i think 80% of my deaths that felt frustrating came from setpiece sections that lock or disable access to the menu for significant periods of time. Anything else was me being careless or lazy.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:12
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Does the voice changer ever come into play? Or is it just for fun?
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Mar 29, 2017 01:13
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Hilariously while that section felt completely trivial to me, i had to restart some shmup section like 7-8 times because it was in a plot segment where 1. the menu was locked and i couldn't change my chip loadouts to something appropriate and 2. the difficulty was still on hard and the shmup section always ended on a wave combination that overwhelmed me and instantly stunlock-oneshot me (and i couldn't lower the difficulty because of 1. ). Oddly personal difficulty spikes seem to be a thing. I barely managed to get through the one at the start of route B. I had very little restorative items from wasting em all on the final boss and I barely scrapped through with almost no health. I'm not sure what I could have done if I did get trapped there.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:26
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tap my mountain posted:They literally gimp your controls ever 6 seconds, it's intended to be an exercise in frustration. I had the same frustrations as everyone else but I really appreciated this part after the fact. The whole time I was just thinking, "oh ok one of these video game gimp sections where you lose all your poo poo for dramatic effect and then get it back 5 minutes later, can I just get to the next part so I can go back to fighting?" And then 2B gets the chop permanently by A2 (whose story I thought would just be another retread of the same events again) and 9S is revealed as the real protagonist. It really honestly shocked me, and I think the gimp section set the scene. And the title card right after was perfect. People are talking about the late title card from the start of route B but THIS one is where it's at. I feel like it should've been the only one to really drive home the fact that this is where the real story begins.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:52
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Is there some trick to beating the Speed Star robot? I managed to win the first race by the skin of my teeth but I can never quite beat him to the finish line in the second round.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:21
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you can beat the final speed race with just having 20% run speed boost from chips(the max) through just being really effective at the running. You can also use the large speed booster item and apparently using the perfect dodge slows time chip makes the whole race a joke.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:24
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So I'm like halfway through route B and I was just wondering If that cyber ghost in the cutscene after the Adam/Eve in the space ship fight has been in any scene before this or if this is the first time she shows up.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:25
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Wordnumber posted:So I'm like halfway through route B and I was just wondering If that cyber ghost in the cutscene after the Adam/Eve in the space ship fight has been in any scene before this or if this is the first time she shows up. Pretty sure before that, because in some scene I thought I maybe saw something like it, but set it aside as just seeing things. I think it was around the giant ocean robot fight. But then there she was in the hangar and lol.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:41
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Rangpur posted:Is there some trick to beating the Speed Star robot? I managed to win the first race by the skin of my teeth but I can never quite beat him to the finish line in the second round. You can beat him in the first and second rounds just by topping up on Movement Speed and Evade Range chips, but the third requires creative thinking. Either abuse Speed Salves or, better yet, synthesize a high-level Overclock chip and dodge an enemy attack to make the world stop for a little while.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:43
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so at the end of route C right now and I think I just managed to remove all the drama by having Death Rattle installed when fighting the 2B clones. Nines is trying to be dramatic but the 2B's just keep screaming in that high pitched machine chipmunk voice and I can't stop giggling
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Mar 29, 2017 02:45
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Oxxidation posted:You can beat him in the first and second rounds just by topping up on Movement Speed and Evade Range chips, but the third requires creative thinking. Either abuse Speed Salves or, better yet, synthesize a high-level Overclock chip and dodge an enemy attack to make the world stop for a little while. Third fight you can also win just with speed boost chips
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Mar 29, 2017 02:47
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Third fight you can also win just with speed boost chips Yeah, but fuuuuck that
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Mar 29, 2017 03:00
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Man, upgrading your pods is a pain in the rear end. I got one maxed, one at 3, and one at 2. Only got 88% of the pod plug-ins as well. Ugh.
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Mar 29, 2017 03:12
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the pure water requirment pretty much made me bother to go find cheat engine tables for this game.
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Goddamn this game rules. Just got to the part where you can switch between A2 and 9S, and there's a big fuckoff tower thing there now. I have to sleep but I gotta find out what happens. Also lol @ Devola and Popola referencing their predecessors' insanity.
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Mar 29, 2017 03:37
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Something super minor I just figured out: You can go back down to the Copied City during Route C, there's a hackable chest with a Powerup Part M and a spot where you can fight infinitely spawning level 60 enemies down there. e: Also, I'm up to 94% unit data and I'm pretty sure I just need literally one thing to hit 95%. Can anybody think of some easily missable enemies I might have overlooked that I can go track down? Opposing Farce fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Opposing Farce posted:Something super minor I just figured out: You can go back down to the Copied City during Route C, there's a hackable chest with a Powerup Part M and a spot where you can fight infinitely spawning level 60 enemies down there. Most of the ones you've probably missed are weird rarespawns. If you go to the desert camp area and go to the far back left corner the enhanced tier stubbies or whatever usually spawn there. In the desert proper if you hug the right wall enhanced medium fliers with guns and explosives spawn on one of the cliff walls. If you don't have the small EMP biped (I missed it) just head down into the crater and bop one of the small dudes that chill near Engel's arm and wait for them to do the EMP move then kill them. And the enhanced reverse jointed goliath just spawns in the flooded city where the gun-armed machine usually is.
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Wordnumber posted:So I'm like halfway through route B and I was just wondering If that cyber ghost in the cutscene after the Adam/Eve in the space ship fight has been in any scene before this or if this is the first time she shows up. I saw it too! No idea what it means. 
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Finished playing through from A to E for the second time, finishing I think 90% of the quests, and getting above 80% in most other areas so far. I never try to 100% games or even play through the story a second time, and even though I have Horizon: Zero Dawn waiting for me, I almost want to go through a third run, this time with all the gear and levels I've earned before, since I sacrificed my first Route E save to help other people. Just finished doing endings F-Z (with the exeption of Y, since I think I need to do some grinding before I can even get there.) Some of those were so rough. Hurting Pascal over and over made me sad. I kinda wish I had a PS3 so I could and play the original Nier. I'm guessing it's probably quite a bit different in term of gameplay, since it is not a Platinum game. But I think I'm on the Yoko Taro bandwagon now.
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Route B/C spoilers: The picture books you see in route B mention the "treasures", which appear to refer to some of the important robots (Forest King, Simone, and Grun) - the ones shown have icons, and one of the icons is a plant and the most prominent one is a cut-out heart like at the amusement park. The resource recovery units appear where these robots were killed as well. I think each of these robots is somehow important to the narrative but I still don't really get it or what the treasures were supposed to be. They seem to be important to be part of what's sent to the moon though.
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Section 9 posted:I kinda wish I had a PS3 so I could and play the original Nier. I'm guessing it's probably quite a bit different in term of gameplay, since it is not a Platinum game. But I think I'm on the Yoko Taro bandwagon now. It's not quite the same as playing, and you might find their sense of humor to be excessively juvenile, but I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ynpA5rGEo to get ready for Automata, and was pretty entertained; they go through all the endings, and the LPer who isn't on the controls provides color commentary from Drakengard as they go. The only reason I recommend the LP route is because the original Nier looks really great, but I found the actual gameplay to be extremely janky at times. Watching someone else beast through it removes the frustration entirely.
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No Wave posted:Route B/C spoilers: The picture books you see in route B mention the "treasures", which appear to refer to some of the important robots (Forest King, Simone, and Grun) - the ones shown have icons, and one of the icons is a plant and the most prominent one is a cut-out heart like at the amusement park. C Spoiler: The 'treasures' are basically enumerations on the different little communities the machines put together to slow their progress / experiment
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No Wave posted:Route B/C spoilers: The picture books you see in route B mention the "treasures", which appear to refer to some of the important robots (Forest King, Simone, and Grun) - the ones shown have icons, and one of the icons is a plant and the most prominent one is a cut-out heart like at the amusement park. The one compelling theory I've seen is that the "treasures" represent the different ways in which the various robot communities splintered in their attempts to become more human: the desert represents Love, Pascal's village represents Peace, etc.
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RoadCrewWorker posted:There's no 8bit version of the Copied City theme is there There is, of the boss theme only
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Opposing Farce posted:Something super minor I just figured out: You can go back down to the Copied City during Route C, there's a hackable chest with a Powerup Part M and a spot where you can fight infinitely spawning level 60 enemies down there. There's also an additional resource collector there sometimes, near where the boss arena was. Sometimes it appears, sometimes it doesn't. Might be a weird bug, but it looks intentional/not like a glitch. Doesn't make much narrative sense though, maybe there was a point where 9S would explore a fourth one but it got cut? If you haven't done the superbosses yet, they count. So do the golden challenge fights that appear in sequence. If you're not just doing the quest and actually want 100%, every palette swap or alternate costume for an enemy counts separately and several only appear at certain chapters in the game, often in out of the way places... so good luck. Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Man, I've been a fan of Nier for a long, long time now as well as Drakengard games (despite not playing them) and I've always wished more people would give the original NieR a chance via playing it themselves or reading a LP. I'd sit down and talk to friends about it, chat it up but like... it was just so danged niche. It's actually kinda freaking me out a little to see Automata explode like it has. Going into a Dark Souls video and reading WOAH THATS SOME NIER TYPE poo poo is just surreal as all hell. I can only imagine how Taro feels Vermain posted:The one compelling theory I've seen is that the "treasures" represent the different ways in which the various robot communities splintered in their attempts to become more human: the desert represents Love, Pascal's village represents Peace, etc. Considering the shape of the love robot in those sequences and it being alone when they talk about Adam's "hate" I'm 100% sure that's wrong and it's just talking about Simone. Like the cutout even has her dress and everything. I think that the machines can share their treasures and build off them but each one has their own unique shape. ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 05:32
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Omi no Kami posted:It's not quite the same as playing, and you might find their sense of humor to be excessively juvenile, but I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ynpA5rGEo to get ready for Automata, and was pretty entertained; they go through all the endings, and the LPer who isn't on the controls provides color commentary from Drakengard as they go. Thanks, I'll give that a try. I think I've watched a couple things from them before and wasn't too terribly irritated. I really do want to get the story more than play the game. Deadly Premonition was a joy to watch, but I did actually try playing it once and nope.
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I think these were linked here before but these are pretty good "movie" versions of the game and do a decent job. Since the guy includes all the dialogue during missions you get to see some gameplay here and there. Drakengard 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkmtlWhn_20 Drakengard 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUSiPgb2wE Nier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fishmFc5Ntk
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please actually play video games
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Considering the shape of the love robot in those sequences and it being alone when they talk about Adam's "hate" I'm 100% sure that's wrong and it's just talking about Simone. Like the cutout even has her dress and everything. The treasures might represent robots actually somehow finding a will to live independent of humanity. This is something Pascal couldn't teach his robot kids, as they all killed themselves as soon as they got afraid. It also highlights the distinction between Adam and Eve - Adam basically offs himself almost immediately but Eve's got a lot more attachment to life in him. It contrasts the difference in tone between "fight for the forest king" and "die and become gods", the perverted version of it. There are references later on to the machines resembling plants in terms of structure, indicating that they're actually becoming lifeforms on their own terms. The odd part is what this means for Part D - as soon as the machines properly find reasons to exist, they shoot themselves to the moon?
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