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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Right, positionally it doesn't make any loving sense especially with such dire needs at OL and I'd argue the secondary. Given the talent value and distribution of those two positions this is the ideal draft for Carolina to trade down. Secondary isn't an issue, assuming Mike Adamlol I can't even say it. Yeah they just need to draft one of the safeties. That would make me happiest. They're not going to get better at CB by bringing in another rookie.
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Worst-case, by pick 8 Garrett, Thomas, Hooker, Adams & Fournette are gone...then what the gently caress does Carolina do? I can see moving up, but 8 to 2 is a huge jump and is the exact mess Hurney got into trading future picks to continually move up for just-one-more-piece that ended up with Armanti Edwards, #33 overall.
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Mar 29, 2017 20:31
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oldskool posted:Worst-case, by pick 8 Garrett, Thomas, Hooker, Adams & Fournette are gone...then what the gently caress does Carolina do? OJ Howard.
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Mar 29, 2017 20:32
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Mixon is on the Chargers draft board after a predraft visit. I'd be down
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Mar 29, 2017 20:36
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FizFashizzle posted:the more confusing bit would the Panthers would have four stud DTs (assuming they see Thomas as a DT) they've spent 3 firsts and a 2nd on. Conditioning isnt an issue if you have 4 stud dts to rotate in and out constantly. Or more likely someone floated this story because they did it in Madden and they won 8 straight super bowls so obviously Carolina should do it in rral life.
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waah posted:Conditioning isnt an issue if you have 4 stud dts to rotate in and out constantly. this is DT though, not WR.
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Mar 29, 2017 20:46
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building up a great DL at the expense of other positions works out great, ask the Rams and Jets
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Mar 29, 2017 20:58
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I think Thomas could absolutely be a great 4-3 de. The better question is, at that point why not try to trade up to number 1 and take Garrett?
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FizFashizzle posted:OJ Howard. This would be great tbh. Or trading down and taking Njoku.
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The 2017 NFL Draft begins on April 27. Whoever becomes forced to play for my team, I'll like them for one to three years and then admit that the bad ones are not good. Talk About a full schedule. Until then, let's keep On saying goodbye to each other ironically [because we aren't parting ways]
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Cavauro posted:The 2017 NFL Draft begins on April 27. Whoever becomes forced to play for my team, I'll like them for one to three years and then admit that the bad ones are not good. Talk About a full schedule. Until then, let's keep On saying goodbye to each other ironically [because we aren't parting ways] oh no, he's gone full Andey.
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No Butt Stuff posted:oh no, he's gone full Andey. Not quite. He hasn't lost his luggage yet.
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andey.... reid. Don't read that unless you're ready to feel like having/doing sex
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Cavauro posted:The 2017 NFL Draft begins on April 27. Whoever becomes forced to play for my team, I'll like them for one to three years and then admit that the bad ones are not good. Talk About a full schedule. Until then, let's keep On saying goodbye to each other ironically [because we aren't parting ways] gently caress, still so far away.
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I think the Titans are poised to make a really big leap this year. Youngsters have been developing for a bit, they have decent talent at positions, and their record was artificially lowered due to injuries (just a bit but still). And Mariota is the real deal, he improved to a 95 QB Rating last year and could hit high 90's low 100's this year assuming they get some WR help. It's kind of "duh" because they have 2 first rounders but this draft is perfect to address their needs at WR and CB.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:I think the Titans are poised to make a really big leap this year. Youngsters have been developing for a bit, they have decent talent at positions, and their record was artificially lowered due to injuries (just a bit but still). And Mariota is the real deal, he improved to a 95 QB Rating last year and could hit high 90's low 100's this year assuming they get some WR help. It's kind of "duh" because they have 2 first rounders but this draft is perfect to address their needs at WR and CB. You realize if the Titans win the Superbowl we'll have to start hating you, right?
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:You realize if the Titans win the Superbowl we'll have to start hating you, right? bad teams that become successful deserve only congratulations (except from divisional opponents), friend except the cowboys
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:You realize if the Titans win the Superbowl we'll have to start hating you, right? That's why I've gotten a headstart on being obnoxious now. Titans, bitch.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:their record was artificially lowered due to injuries (just a bit but still). This is not true
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Metapod posted:This is not true They could've won that last Texans game if Mariota hadn't been injured. Probably.
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a patagonian cavy posted:bad teams that become successful deserve only congratulations (except from divisional opponents), friend Yeah but then Seahawks fans treated it like it was God's Will and became insufferable
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Probably Magic posted:They could've won that last Texans game if Mariota hadn't been injured. Probably. They did win that game
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Yeah but then Seahawks fans treated it like it was God's Will and became insufferable two super bowl trips in a row with the former being a win made it bad. but still, in that moment, I was happy to see the seahawks win though I'm not a hawks fan
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a patagonian cavy posted:two super bowl trips in a row with the former being a win made it bad. but still, in that moment, I was happy to see the seahawks win though I'm not a hawks fan Yeah me too, especially because it hosed the Broncos and Peyton Manning.
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That opening safety and then D. Thomas getting rocked after a little dump pass were just electric, the rest of the game was just laughing at the lopsidedness.
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Metapod posted:They did win that game Lol, I completely forgot.
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Gadzooks I stand corrected
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No Irish Need Imply posted:I'd draft cats over dogs because dogs are all overrated busts. I can't believe we had cat & dog chat and no one linked the TFF required viewing on the subject.
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Why would you draft cats into the NFL over dogs? Dogs are boys and cats are girls
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Spoeank posted:Why would you draft cats into the NFL over dogs? I think you answered your own question
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Bengals in on Mixon in the 2nd, according to Pauline. https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/847127429793538048 https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/847181372598956032
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How good is Myles Garrett in relation to other super hyped pass rushers based entirely on college production and combine stats? I am looking for more than "he good" or even the vaulted "he real good".
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Bigass Moth posted:How good is Myles Garrett in relation to other super hyped pass rushers based entirely on college production and combine stats? I am looking for more than "he good" or even the vaulted "he real good". The Browns should take Mitchell Trubisky, and let the 49ers draft Garrett.
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Bigass Moth posted:How good is Myles Garrett in relation to other super hyped pass rushers based entirely on college production and combine stats? I am looking for more than "he good" or even the vaulted "he real good". Based on combine stats, he's pretty amazing: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/myles-garrett?position=EDGE For edge defenders, he's in the 88th percentile of combine guys for 40 yard dash, 98th for vertical, 96th for broad jump and 94th for bench press. For raw athletes, his closest comparable is Justin Houston. I can't speak to his college production, but PFF loves him: https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football-myles-garrett-is-the-nations-best-defender-aggies-texas/
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Kalli posted:I can't speak to his college production, but PFF loves him: https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football-myles-garrett-is-the-nations-best-defender-aggies-texas/ PFF has fallen far enough that I think it's worth mentioning Daltos doesn't like him that much. The trust level between the sources is about the same for me, and this isn't meant to be a compliment to our resident draft guy. I do think the Browns have got to take him unless you fall in love with a quarterback, and I personally like him a lot (I trust myself less than anyone on draft things though).
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Bigass Moth posted:How good is Myles Garrett in relation to other super hyped pass rushers based entirely on college production and combine stats? I am looking for more than "he good" or even the vaulted "he real good". Garrett's a freak athlete who has something like 30 sacks in three years at AM. Moreover, he plays like a freak athlete, and actually has some decent pass rushing moves. The only real knock on him is motor, as he had a tendency to basically take some plays off. regardless, he good
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Grittybeard posted:PFF has fallen far enough that I think it's worth mentioning Daltos doesn't like him that much. The trust level between the sources is about the same for me, and this isn't meant to be a compliment to our resident draft guy. Yeah, I don't like PFF, but I'll at least give minor credence to people who will at least demonstrate a knowledge of the games a player's played and done the work to at least gif out plays to demonstrate what they're seeing. Only linked that article for the gifs really, heh. Same reason I'll read Cian Fahey even though that dude spends most of his time trolling people. Also, when it comes to college football, I tend to ere on the side of those eye test guys over the stats guys because the variance in level of competition is just so gigantic.
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TheFlyingLlama posted:Garrett's a freak athlete who has something like 30 sacks in three years at AM. Moreover, he plays like a freak athlete, and actually has some decent pass rushing moves. The only real knock on him is motor, as he had a tendency to basically take some plays off. We gotta take him, BUT... Like over half those sacks came against crappy teams. Also, he has a couple moves, but that is one of the things he is going to need to work on, more pass rushing moves besides a bull and speed rush, which many say won't be a problem to learn at all. From everywhere I've heard his absolute floor is a solid starter and ceiling is All Pro.
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If he's as good as is said, the only way the Browns don't take him is if they get an offer for someone to move up that is too good to refuse. Do you see that happening for a DE? Browns still need help everwhere so if the deal was right I'm sure they'd consider it.
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Michael Corleone posted:We gotta take him, BUT... don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's the next julius peppers or anything, but freak athletes with any pass rushing moves outside of speed rushes at the collegiate level are rare enough
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