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Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Look it's simple. You can only counter punches to the left of the screen or done with the left arm, if they're either the same, or different if you're player 2 on either side or player 1 but only on the right side. If you counter 2 punches in a round, or 3 in a match, or 1 and then activate Vtrigger (but not 1 DURING Vtrigger) you can counter all punches and most kicks but no headbutts until the other player does any two (2) of the following:
a) wins
b) counters
c) loses
d) counter-counters
e) changes screen sides 2 (but not 3+) times
f) counter-counter-counters
g) activates Necalli's VTrigger REGARDLESS OF IF THEY ARE NECALLI OR NOT

Damage is based on the original damage of the move being countered, the difference in player's HP, the in-game clock, the out-of-game clock, and the opposing character's Event Hubs tier list ranking.

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lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Jack Trades posted:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/131870375

That new throw looks retarded. Not as bad as the parry or Cammy spincopter but still.

the reverse choke slam owns actually, he looks like braun strowman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6u-3QcO2X4


Also Gief has a 100% stun combo on blocked DP vs like the whole cast. He can also do like 90% damage vs Akuma with CA

https://twitter.com/hameko/status/846980755645513728

dhamster
Aug 5, 2013

I got into my car and ate my chalupa with a feeling of accomplishment.

Saint Freak posted:

Look it's simple. You can only counter punches to the left of the screen or done with the left arm, if they're either the same, or different if you're player 2 on either side or player 1 but only on the right side. If you counter 2 punches in a round, or 3 in a match, or 1 and then activate Vtrigger (but not 1 DURING Vtrigger) you can counter all punches and most kicks but no headbutts until the other player does any two (2) of the following:
a) wins
b) counters
c) loses
d) counter-counters
e) changes screen sides 2 (but not 3+) times
f) counter-counter-counters
g) activates Necalli's VTrigger REGARDLESS OF IF THEY ARE NECALLI OR NOT

Damage is based on the original damage of the move being countered, the difference in player's HP, the in-game clock, the out-of-game clock, and the opposing character's Event Hubs tier list ranking.

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity

Otakufag posted:

Of the following gameplay changes, which ones do you think would make sfv better:
-Double active frames of most moves
-Increase range of stubby key normals (like shoto c.mk) for all chars
-Slightly decrease speed of forward dashes
-Give dp invul back
-Remove huge tumor hurtbox underneath jumping models to make aa jabs useless except vs empty jumps
-Make hitboxes match models and animations exactly as you see them
-Generally reduce corner carry
-Remove grey life for blocking
-Make v-reversals a more reliable defensive mechanic (like making them hit faster)
-Chip kills

Increase walkspeed isn't on here, bad list

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Otakufag posted:

Of the following gameplay changes, which ones do you think would make sfv better:
-Double active frames of most moves
-Increase range of stubby key normals (like shoto c.mk) for all chars
-Slightly decrease speed of forward dashes
-Give dp invul back
-Remove huge tumor hurtbox underneath jumping models to make aa jabs useless except vs empty jumps
-Make hitboxes match models and animations exactly as you see them
-Generally reduce corner carry
-Remove grey life for blocking
-Make v-reversals a more reliable defensive mechanic (like making them hit faster)
-Chip kills

In order:

-Increased walkspeed
-Longer/better hitboxes on normals.
-More active frames on normals
-rethink V-triggers, less 3-bar total gamechange nonsense, more 1-2 v-bar combo extenders/extra options.

Keegers
Aug 11, 2014



Add chip kills back in and give everyone parry.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Spuckuk posted:

In order:

-Increased walkspeed
-Longer/better hitboxes on normals.
-More active frames on normals
-rethink V-triggers, less 3-bar total gamechange nonsense, more 1-2 v-bar combo extenders/extra options.

Exactly this.

Also unfuck Vega and the netcode.

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

there's nothing they can do at this point, they reached perfection in 1999 and will never come close again sorry gang

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Jack Trades posted:

Exactly this.

Also unfuck Vega and the netcode.

Giving Vega scarlet terror as a v reversal and backslash as a normal reversal would go a long way, although he'd still be stuck with some bafflingly bad buttons and specials.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

I can't tell if I want to play Gief now because he has silly counter moves or because the silly counter moves are incredibly specific.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

A.o.D. posted:

Giving Vega scarlet terror as a v reversal and backslash as a normal reversal would go a long way, although he'd still be stuck with some bafflingly bad buttons and specials.

I just want Scarlet Terror back as a special. I'm fine with it being a charge special.
Also Cosmic Heel because it's like my second or third most used normal in SF4.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Jack Trades posted:

I just want Scarlet Terror back as a special. I'm fine with it being a charge special.
Also Cosmic Heel because it's like my second or third most used normal in SF4.

Pour one out for our homie cosmic heel.

Night Blade
Feb 25, 2013


Meanwhile at Capcom...

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Count Bleck posted:

I can't tell if I want to play Gief now because he has silly counter moves or because the silly counter moves are incredibly specific.

If it sways you one way or the other: people on The Twitter are saying that list of moves that was flagged in the data as being counterable kicks isn't even correct and it works on some random stuff that isn't flagged so maybe not even Capcom knows what all it works against.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Capcom now introducing...the MYSTERY PARRY!
This new exciting addition to the game allows you to parry a random list of moves which changes every round.
Discover the excitement of the MYSTERY PARRY with our 60$ Season Pass, now!

Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Mar 29, 2017

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy

Woden posted:

The Gief reversal looks more useful than Heihachis reversal.

Heihachi's is automatic though.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Night Blade posted:

Meanwhile at Capcom...


Dear Strongbad,
how do you type with boxing gloves?

Crapfully yours,
Totes Cray Buffalo

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




It took 13 months but guiles crates finally break

rednecked_crake
Mar 17, 2012

srsly who wants to play this lamer?
https://my.mixtape.moe/abinod.webm

https://my.mixtape.moe/ytbtqs.webm

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN


Wow, they managed to capture the very essence of sfv in a single move

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.
SF5 Season 37 Change List:

Adjusted Hypno Mecha-Ken's toward+Ultraheavy Kick hitbox 2 pixels vertically so it can be countered by Zangiefs Dumb loving Move That Literally Exists.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Someone upload a video of zangief countering dhalsim HK so I can laugh at what the gently caress that must look like.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Saint Freak posted:

Someone upload a video of zangief countering dhalsim HK so I can laugh at what the gently caress that must look like.

I don't have a link handy but sim teleports into gief's waiting arms and it is beautiful

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

No one has explicitly acknowledged it yet, but, is this the list of what Zangief's new move counters? I mean, that appears to be what you guys are saying, and I would be 100% sure that's what you were saying from context clues, but... its loving stupid, so I have to just double check?

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

!Klams posted:

No one has explicitly acknowledged it yet, but, is this the list of what Zangief's new move counters? I mean, that appears to be what you guys are saying, and I would be 100% sure that's what you were saying from context clues, but... its loving stupid, so I have to just double check?

It's the list of what the data says should be countered, except people are saying the data is wrong.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

HAHAHAHAHAHA

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I got a chance to play the beta today since they fixed the matchmaking. Load times do feel way better on my end at least.

I also won a match after inadvertently buffering Karin's CA after a shoulder charge and some poor dude probably thought he was playing the most bad rear end bronze Karin on earth.

GOOD TIMES ON METH fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Mar 30, 2017

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
quote this if you think user jack trades should stop posting itt

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

anime was right posted:

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Night Blade
Feb 25, 2013

Saint Freak posted:

Someone upload a video of zangief countering dhalsim HK so I can laugh at what the gently caress that must look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmXbffGJMGU&t=163s

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
That corckscrew looks like poo poo and the fact it only works against horizontal kicks attacks (wtf?) is silly.

anime was right posted:

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008


Lol

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

anime was right posted:

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

anime was right posted:

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interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity

anime was right posted:

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boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

anime was right posted:

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Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

anime was right posted:

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https://a.pomf.cat/vavyvg.webm

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

That's just silly.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
bring this back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0qYi2ueHg

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Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

anime was right posted:

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