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rj54x posted:Finally got around to ascending an Uskayaw guy. The "solo" ability and pain link let me put out absolutely absurd amounts of damage to groups - it really did manage to encourage me to dive headfirst into crowds when I'd normally be luring back to a murder hole somewhere. I felt like I barely used stomp (was using a vampiric axe for most of the game, which seemed to do the same amount of damage + vampirism) or line pass, and while grand finale was super cool when it worked, it failed too often against tough enemies. I usually wound up getting to *****, hitting stomp just enough to get my piety down far enough to solo again, and repeating. I think I may have gotten more mileage out of the active abilities if I had focused Invocations earlier, but even relying mostly on the passives he still felt very powerful. You should try more invocations, it helps the passive abilities and Grand Finale is absurdly powerful when you can use it properly. Getting the failure at a decent rate without maxing piety means you can use it far more often. I recently got one of those awful lair3 ant nests but cleared it by building piety on chump ants and using finale to explode the entropy weavers.
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Araganzar posted:
I definitely do. Extra food, scrolls I won't use often (enchant weapon/armour), all gets stashed at the L:1 stairs.
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I'm going to start a stashing intervention group
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 03:41 |
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IronicDongz posted:I'm going to start a stashing intervention group Did I mention I used to move my entire stash from L1 to V1, and then from V1 to Hell Vestibule? At least all I could carry in 2 trips...sometimes I would forget to pick my wands and scrolls back up and boy that was fun. Also I with Nemelex I used to burn decks for piety sitting on my stash until I got Shaft. I found about 20% of my stuff on Lair 2-4, no idea what happened to the other 40%. And this was with item destruction so all my extra blinks, tports, heals, cures were in there. Ok question time. Am I crazy for using +7 plate armour {rF++ Slay+4} when I also have +10 crystal plate armour {Str+1 Int+5}? 39/14 vs 49/12. rf++ and Slay 4 is just really strong. And I use a randart exec axe that is rf- so if I wear the CPA I have to wear a prot fire ring just to not be rf-. And THAT keeps me from wearing a Slay 6 ring. So the plate effectively gives me rf++ slay+10. But christ, 49AC with 48% GDR...
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Araganzar posted:Did I mention I used to move my entire stash from L1 to V1, and then from V1 to Hell Vestibule? At least all I could carry in 2 trips...sometimes I would forget to pick my wands and scrolls back up and boy that was fun. If you wear the +10 Crystal Plate you're going to get killed by fire damage and if you wear the +7 plate you'll get killed by a Crystal Spear and either way you'll tell yourself you should have done the other thing.
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You are not, especially since both pieces of armor are so good. Kind of academic at that point, if you die it won't be because of the armor.
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Darox posted:You don't need to drop piety to get more solos or pain links, they can trigger repeatedly even when riding at 6*. There's some kind of cooldown that is influenced by ??? (I think recent piety gain/damage affects it but things like invo, total piety or faith amulet might also apply) and when they're up they'll trigger immediately if anything is still in sight. Did you say Lair 3 entropy weavers? This is a vault? "Crawl's too easy" my rear end tbqh
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 06:26 |
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Yeah ant vaults that are deep enough (lair 3 or lower, maybe also dungeon at ???) spawn with 2-3 entropy weavers. Entropy weavers can see invisible too! Isn't it great!
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 06:38 |
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I've also I thought they were interesting enemies back when their corrode had a casting time but now they are just 10 flavors of bullshit, moreso at that level though
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 06:39 |
I once starved to death while ferrying honeycombs from Hive to my Lair stash, something like 9 years ago.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 07:15 |
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My Halfling Assassin died because I tried to go from SBlades to LBlades but if I stayed SBlades I totally would have won > BUFF SBLADES
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 07:21 |
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Darox posted:Yeah ant vaults that are deep enough (lair 3 or lower, maybe also dungeon at ???) spawn with 2-3 entropy weavers. Also those spider levels where the stairs are clustered and several entropy weavers corrode you to -12 before you've even descended the stairs
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 10:01 |
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Do monsters pick up items still? I haven't had an item that I just dropped be gone when I went back in a long time. I used to stash in lair, but now I just drop stuff wherever. Sometimes I make a book pile.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 16:48 |
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Monsters picking up items was mostly phased out, IIRC monsters only grab and use undiscovered items which is why you'll have elf enemies in Elf:3 in full bling sometimes, but other than that you're good. I still stash sometimes, mostly because of books and/or food, and by stash I mean "dump a stack of items on the nearest cleared floor" because stash locations at most just save you some turns if you pick a centralized location which is not worth the bother.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:03 |
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Maybe if I've got enough equipment for resistance changes to hit up Hell but typically I don't bother anymore with stashes.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:12 |
Eat your rations off the floor like a loving animal.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:17 |
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What are you supposed to loving be like if you do all your reading off the floor, too?
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:20 |
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Won my second Frog:code:
The slow movement isn't so bad with Wu Jian, all the moves still felt very effective. Killed a OOF with two consecutive wall jumps using a +9 double sword, took another to half with a lunge. Triple Sword would have rocked but never found one. Ba is a fun race and I hope it makes it into the final release - wish the hop were further as I kept forgetting to use it and then when I did it didn't help all that much.
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apple posted:Monsters picking up items was mostly phased out, IIRC monsters only grab and use undiscovered items which is why you'll have elf enemies in Elf:3 in full bling sometimes, but other than that you're good. Is there a special case in zigs? I've wondered why they don't tool up on artifacts (that I've seen) there as opposed to elf end.
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Araganzar posted:Ba is a fun race and I hope it makes it into the final release - wish the hop were further as I kept forgetting to use it and then when I did it didn't help all that much. I haven't splatted that many frogs but I agree from what I saw--hop very rarely actually helped a lot. An alternative to range would be precision (as you could then use it to secure favorable positioning or etc), but the combination of short range and lack of conrol makes it frustrating.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:00 |
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Just 15 runed a FoFi on my local. My blessing and curse was getting this on Lair 1 from Oka:code:
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On the plus side, a Battle Axe is still more than "good enough" to do extended, so if any formicid dudes are worried about being stuck with one it can likely work out.
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Scaramouche posted:Is there a special case in zigs? I've wondered why they don't tool up on artifacts (that I've seen) there as opposed to elf end. Yeah, (a) it's super annoying to search all the corpses, even with autoexplore (b) it looks great to see the piles of stuff. In some other versions the Elf items were also ignored for similar reasons, but it did seem silly to have them more obviously guarding the items and not using them.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 06:34 |
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I would have absolutely ditched that axe for something I could enchant more and slap on an rC+ and rN+ ring when needed that said, grats on the 15er
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Scaramouche posted:Just 15 runed a FoFi on my local. My blessing and curse was getting this on Lair 1 from Oka: This is a testament to Fo being very strong provided you are a careful and cautious player. At +3 that weapon is about as good as anything another race is likely to be using one-handed. And Fo gets into large shield practically for free. I think they are Quite Good provided you play them better than I do. I do have an FoWn in 0.19 with boots of the assassin who just found a cloak of invisibility. So we will see how cleave-stabbing with a +9 battleaxe and a large shield work out... The formicid before that? code:
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 08:23 |
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my absolute favorite Fo run is forever the run where I got the Dark Maul http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue//Shard1697/morgue-Shard1697-20160720-041521.txt code:
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 08:33 |
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Welp I took down an OOF and a Lich at the same time on Zot1 but then died to a single Elec dragon because I forgot I took off my rElec stuff.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 10:17 |
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Monks just got monkier again: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=b48d95fd49c15b9f585b792f99de26f558033d51code:
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weirdly chilly pussy posted:Monks just got monkier again: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=b48d95fd49c15b9f585b792f99de26f558033d51
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 10:29 |
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I think this is ok, it makes you cool at dodging and you can then spec into the first cool weapon you see!
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 11:07 |
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Newer monks still seem fine, it's a downgrade if you want a sword/staff/axe since those might not appear for a while, but riding fighting skill and using the first dagger/whip/spear you find until then is good enough. I wish artificers got a choice of weapon though. I also wish warpers (and abyss knights and others) could pick quarterstaves. I guess quarterstaves are considered too high tier for a basic starter. Change club flavour to 'a big stick' and make them lovely staves instead of lovely maces. M&F already has whips and maces for low tier weapons, clubs just exist for goblins to wield and being staves won't change that.
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weirdly chilly pussy posted:Monks just got monkier again: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=b48d95fd49c15b9f585b792f99de26f558033d51 I like this change a lot. Adapting to what the early game gives you is fun and can define the whole game in unique ways vs. picking the "optimal" weapon from the start and just waiting until bigger ones drop. Now we just need a monkey race so I can play a WJC martial arts monkey monk.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Now we just need a monkey race so I can play a WJC martial arts monkey monk. Whoa now the WJC crab monk with 0 encumbrance exoskeleton and unarmed bonuses to the fighting claw is going to be a lot better. Let's not divert focus from the crab race project.
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Quick question if there are any devs left listening here: Sequell/Listgame reports me as active on CJR (jorgrun): araganzar: !locateall araganzar cjr beem: araganzar: CJR 0.19-a, L17 VSSu of Dithmenos But when I go to CJR I don't have that character. Did Jorgrun get wiped or something? That game is probably from when 0.19-a was trunk... Also, how to win MiWr: code:
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There's no compensation for the spikiness of avoidance and in fact instead heavy armor is buffed by giving it GDR. It would be nice if heavy armor users had to think about ANY consequences of wearing a ton of metal other than spellcasting. But the penalties for heavy armor are so meaningless compared to the protection that they might as well not exist. I don't care for it. Working with light armor has always created interesting situations and creative play but in heavy armor I am just like MONGO CRUSH. I guess you could insert the "then don't play weak races" argument here...but having one way of play be so clearly superior while also being the simplest really dumbs down the game to me.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 21:06 |
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To be honest, CJR has always had broken bot interactions, so while I play there, I've stopped thinking hard about it.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 21:37 |
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Araganzar posted:Quick question if there are any devs left listening here:
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Can Of Worms posted:There was a server upgrade on CJR sometime around last summer and the admin didn't keep all the versions of trunk at the time, so saves using those particular versions got deleted. God, guess I'll add it to the List of Lost Characters then: CJR 0.19-a, L17 VSSu of Dithmenos CKR 0.15, L27 FoSk of Okawaru <-- in zot CKR 0.16-a, L27 GhSk of Okawaru <-- was NOT fun to replay CSZO 0.13-a, L15 DgFE of No God CSZO 0.15, L23 VSAE of Okawaru CSZO 0.14, L25 DsNe of Ashenzar <-- this guy had Ignite Blood, Augmentation, Piercer, and Krishna. CSZO 0.16, L22 DsBe of Makhleb CSZO 0.17, L27 TeAE of Vehumet CSZO 0.17-a, L22 VSAK of Lugonu RIP CSZO, you took a lot of good men down with you.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 22:19 |
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How do I delete all my pref and settings files from CAO? I tried loading a trunk game and apparently I have a billion old files that didn't cooperate (as an example, no items are dark colored, so I tried to put a helmet on my FoFi that just splatted. Likewise, magical items aren't colored blue. I'd like to fix that. What's the command again?
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weirdly chilly pussy posted:Monks just got monkier again: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=b48d95fd49c15b9f585b792f99de26f558033d51 I really like this because it means I can start a martial demonspawn character without effectively making a blind bet as to whether or not I'll get claws. Bring back singularity.
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Arcturas posted:How do I delete all my pref and settings files from CAO? I tried loading a trunk game and apparently I have a billion old files that didn't cooperate (as an example, no items are dark colored, so I tried to put a helmet on my FoFi that just splatted. Likewise, magical items aren't colored blue. I'd like to fix that. What's the command again? Tiles: click edit rc, then select all (ctrl-A in windows), then delete/backspace. Console: edit with virus, then: code:
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I want to eat this giant pile of purple meat, but pressing more than two buttons is such a pain. May as well "waste" my two ID scrolls to make room!quote:Message History What should I even do with all these? I'm a dsgl of yre. E: scarf, gloves of dex, and a +3 glaive of venom are the highlights. better than what i had but nothing impressive. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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